The DB fanbase is degrading fast!

[dbboxkaifan]

In all fairness, there's a difference between hoping someone will die and threatening to kill someone. Not that either are very reasonable, but I don't think that the two should be conflated.

If such persists on doing the same actions it's only logical to take a step against the threat, like, on Twitter you can block people and make the account completely private to only make it accessible to certain people so there's ways around it sometimes.

I for example uploaded a Mario Kart 8 30sec video to my YouTube account and some douche left a comment of how he'd love to read about my d___h (can't quite write the whole word out) on the newspaper and he'd laugh about it. That's straight up sickening and disgusting, I did report him to YouTube but the comment itself and his account still remain active. I've tried remembering if I ever had a discussion with him and I don't recall so it's some demented troll.

Granted, there is far worse out there on the internet but I'd rather stay away from that.

[Adamant]

Disliking it is one thing. The extent to which it used to be though? That was entirely different. When you had some fans flat out wishing for the deaths of people involved in the dub, or even the failure of the company as a whole - that might not be as bad as wishing for death, but it's still pretty needlessly vindictive to wish for people to lose their jobs.

None of that is mentioned in that post, though. It just says people hated on the dub for being bad... which seems like a relatively logical thing to dislike it for.

[shinmaru]

Just when I thought I've heard it all from the typical Nozawa/Japanese hater of the series. I was scrolling through threads on the internet and came across a kid saying "i was hoping Nozawa would die before they started Super." Can you believe it? These so-called "fans" are waiting for Nozawa to die now...They don't just hate on her now, they are taking it a step beyond that.
His prior comments are pure hatred and shit-talking towards the actress and her ability to actually act and play Goku as opposed to Schemmel's amateurish acting from the early 2000's. The typical Nozawa hater continuously calls someone a "weaboo" if they oppose their perspective.

Does anyone else here besides me feel a huge strain on their enjoyment of the series due to people like this? How are they a "weaboo" for liking the iconic version of Goku and the Japanese original?

Complaining and making a Topic about some kid that said something on the internet, why? Man-Kids always say pathetic things like that. Worst people are the ones like you! That use different names and try to deceive and lie to people for DBZ. Or try to Infect someone's PC because they got exposed.

Japanese fan purist are just as bad as the dub only fans. You may not see as much now, but back in the day they where pretty bad. You had the fans that would hate on DBZ on Toonami because it was edited for kids and didn't have the blood, violence and cursing as the Japanese versions. Not to mention you had fans say Bejita instead of Vegeta and Torankusu instead of Trunks.

I always write and say Bejita because I like it more than Vegeta it has nothing to do with hate.
Most dubs use Vegeta before it was broadcasted in English even the Japanese sometimes write it like that.

[Cure Dragon 255]

While the really wonky english is really hard to understand, I I agree think there is nothing wrong with Bejita, since some dubs actually did make it the official romanization for them. They arent weaboos they are just really attached to their romanization. I actually used to be EXTREMELY against rough romanizations, I REALLY hated them....until I realized even my beloved Latin American dub used rough romanizations too. I do NOT like them in more modern new dubs (As in, from a new anime.) but they are harmless.

I do not think either side should insult or threaten the sub or dub crews, especially "I HOPE YOU DIE" or "I'm going to KILL YOU"

[huzaifa_ahmed]

While the really wonky english is really hard to understand, I I agree think there is nothing wrong with Bejita, since some dubs actually did make it the official romanization for them. They arent weaboos they are just really attached to their romanization. I actually used to be EXTREMELY against rough romanizations, I REALLY hated them....until I realized even my beloved Latin American dub used rough romanizations too. I do NOT like them in more modern new dubs (As in, from a new anime.) but they are harmless.

I do not think either side should insult or threaten the sub or dub crews, especially "I HOPE YOU DIE" or "I'm going to KILL YOU"

Saying "Bejita" as norm is a little bit like dub fans of "Hercule"

[Cure Dragon 255]

I know. It does give me the heebie jeevies. But my dub did use a lot of misromanizations like Pikoro and Namekusei. And despite trying to be cool with that, it does irk me. Sure I dont use Pikoro or Namekusei here on Kanzenshuu since its not Toriyama's intent. But yeah. It would be hypocritical of me to criticize them for it.

EDIT:On second thought, I'm much less sympathetic to shinmaru.

[Hellspawn28]

There's a difference between using official English translations and dub names created by a company. Something like Hercule is a name created by Funimation, not a official English translation from translating the Japanese text or created by Toei & Shueisha.

[shinmaru]

What I was trying to say is most dubs use Vegeta before it was broadcasted in English even the Japanese write it like that.
so it's a stupid reason to say Bejita instead of Vegeta because you don't like the U.S dub.

Cure Dragon a guy that sees red and is crying over an anime character not going to hell.
Please keep your sympathy to yourself you will probably need it more than me.

[Cure Dragon 255]

I actually do defend the Bejita thing.

I said that for this.

"Complaining and making a Topic about some kid that said something on the internet, why? Man-Kids always say pathetic things like that. Worst people are the ones like you! That use different names and try to deceive and lie to people for DBZ. Or try to Infect someone's PC because they got exposed."

You have no right to look down on people and insult them so openly like that. No one said that. You may not need my sympathy but I will tell You dont need to insult people to defend your stance. There I said it

Just because they actually follow Toriyama's intent they are Pathetic Man Kids? And you do know there are PLENTY of Mispellings on Japanese Dragon Ball? It doesnt make them right.

EDIT:I never said anything about going to characters going to hell or any non sense. Dont put words in my mouth just because I called you out on your stuff.

[shinmaru]

Just because they actually follow Toriyama's intent they are Pathetic Man Kids?

I'm talking about the Man-Kids that act like the Man-Kid that said that Nozawa needs to die. And I'm not defending anything but my self.

EDIT:I never said anything about going to characters going to hell or any non sense. Dont put words in my mouth just because I called you out on your stuff.

Think harder,

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[Cure Dragon 255]

Ah. Then I apologize. I thought you meant to say just anyone who didnt use rough romanizations. If you meant especifically the crazies then I apologize (Although not everyone who oposes rough romanizations is a crazy Sub Hater, you can love and adore Nozawa and despise the dub and still prefer the actual official romanizations for stuff that isnt drastically altered, keep that in mind)

OH GOD! I knew that would come to bite me in the ass. The whole Vegeta should go to hell. That was from an extremely dark era for me, I was literally too angry and neurotic and that created a very single minded and EXTREMELY nature to my statements.

I wont post on that thread anymore because I'm really nasty when I post there. I changed my mind, I do think the fans are too lenient on him, but I dont want him to go to hell and suffer, or his soul erased or anything anymore. I just hope that people realize he did really extremely bad stuff and that its going to take more than what he did onscreen to be truly considered a good person, I do know that he's changing very much for the better, he's is improving.