Real Revival Of [F] plot holes/discrepencies

[Tectorman]

1) Frieza being vaporized has no bearing on whether he can be revived or not. Krillin was just as obliterated and he got revived.
2) The "one year" rule only applies to wishing multiple people back with the same wish. Furthermore, that was only established to be a rule with Kami's Shenron. It might or might not work that way with Dende's Shenron.
3) Sorry you feel that way, but no matter. It WAS made, no amount of wishing will change that, and it will soon be released in English. To the ecstatic glee of those of us who can't wait. Cheers and LLAP.

[Gonstead]

2. Over a decade passed so, USING EARTH'S DRAGON BALLS TO WISH HIM BACK TO LIFE IS FREAKING IMPOSSIBLE!!

The only limitation with the 1 year thing is a large amount of people. Reviving simple one person, no matter how long and if they haven't been reincarnated is completely possible.

[Soccerjam]

he only limitation with the 1 year thing is a large amount of people. Reviving simple one person, no matter how long and if they haven't been reincarnated is completely possible.[/quote]

Where does it says about reincarnating. They never mentioned that.

[Hitiro]

Where does it says about reincarnating. They never mentioned that.

They don't have to say it really. It is a pretty obvious thing. Because if your soul is reincarnated into a new person then you can't be wished back as the old person because the soul for that person doesn't exist any more.

[Vegitofaxx]

1. Trunks BURNED Freeza TO DUST! NO TRACES AT ALL!!
2. Over a decade passed so, USING EARTH'S DRAGON BALLS TO WISH HIM BACK TO LIFE IS FREAKING IMPOSSIBLE!!
3. Thus, they should have NEVER BOTHERED making that STUPID MOVIE!!

Dude, don't go caps lock. It makes you look like a 10 year old.
1. When was that confirmed?
2. That limitation wasn't established for Dende's dragon to my memory.
3. So you don't want more content?

[Soccerjam]

1. When was that confirmed?
2. That limitation wasn't established for Dende's dragon to my memory.
3. So you don't want more content?[/quote]
Sorry, I'll be specific then
1. We all saw Trunks used the Burning Slash and Frieza was nothing but ashes. Look for the episode.
2. I was unaware there were any difference in Shenron other than granting one extra wish since Dende became guardian.
3. I have no problem with more content; I just don't take kindly to them replacing/rebooting content that I was already content with and has existed for 20+ years!

[Hitiro]

Sorry, I'll be specific then
1. We all saw Trunks used the Burning Slash and Freeza was nothing but ashes. Look for the episode.
2. I was unaware there were any difference in Shenron other than granting one extra wish since Dende became guardian.
3. I have no problem with more content; I just don't take kindly to them replacing/rebooting content that I was already content with and has existed for 20+ years!

1. Like said above though, there is no reason why Freeza couldn't be brought back from that state. Kuririn was.

2. There is nothing stating what the Dende's version of the dragon balls can do apart from the new wish which was has been subsequently been removed by the Battle of Gods and FnF movies. It now only functions with 1 wish again. But none of this should have any baring on the 1 year rule because that rule was only established for reviving a lot of people. Dende's dragon balls also seem to follow the Namekian Dragon balls on wishing people back multiple times. Because Yamcha, Kuririn, Tenshinhan, Piccolo and Kame-sennin are all alive after the wish to bring back everyone who died on Earth to use the Genki Dama.

3. Not everyone is happy with the content after DBZ though. While I like some elements and premises in DBGT it was an abysmal follow-up story to DBZ. One I would happily see retconned for a better story. At the end of the day if it is what Akira Toiryama wants to happen with his story who are we to argue with him?

[johnboy1]

1. Like said above though, there is no reason why Freeza couldn't be brought back from that state. Kuririn was.

I think his objections is that Freeza was brought back in the pieces Trunks sliced him into, rather than the dust and ashes he was subsequently incinerated into.

[Hitiro]

I think his objections is that Freeza was brought back in the pieces Trunks sliced him into, rather than the dust and ashes he was subsequently incinerated into.

I assume that was because Shenlong tried his best to piece Freeza back together but some of his pieces just couldn't be brought back. If he had been brought back much earlier then he wouldn't have been in pieces at all. He would have been whole like Kuririn was.

[Soccerjam]

Sorry, I'll be specific then
1. We all saw Trunks used the Burning Slash and Freeza was nothing but ashes. Look for the episode.
2. I was unaware there were any difference in Shenron other than granting one extra wish since Dende became guardian.
3. I have no problem with more content; I just don't take kindly to them replacing/rebooting content that I was already content with and has existed for 20+ years!

1. Like said above though, there is no reason why Freeza couldn't be brought back from that state. Kuririn was.

2. There is nothing stating what the Dende's version of the dragon balls can do apart from the new wish which was has been subsequently been removed by the Battle of Gods and FnF movies. It now only functions with 1 wish again. But none of this should have any baring on the 1 year rule because that rule was only established for reviving a lot of people. Dende's dragon balls also seem to follow the Namekian Dragon balls on wishing people back multiple times. Because Yamcha, Kuririn, Tenshinhan, Piccolo and Kame-sennin are all alive after the wish to bring back everyone who died on Earth to use the Genki Dama.

3. Not everyone is happy with the content after DBZ though. While I like some elements and premises in DBGT it was an abysmal follow-up story to DBZ. One I would happily see retconned for a better story. At the end of the day if it is what Akira Toiryama wants to happen with his story who are we to argue with him?

Like I said Dragon Ball Super is welcome but it's NOT a replacement.
Also;
Dragon Ball Super
Dragon Ball GT
Super GT = A car, get it ^_^

[Hitiro]

Like I said Dragon Ball Super is welcome but it's NOT a replacement.
Also;
Dragon Ball Super
Dragon Ball GT
Super GT = A car, get it ^_^

How is it not a replacement?

[johnboy1]

How is it not a replacement?

He meant in a strict sense. This isn't a direct sequel to DBZ. It takes place before it ends, somewhere within the last few episodes. It's a... midquel, I guess the word is.

[Hitiro]

He meant in a strict sense. This isn't a direct sequel to DBZ. It takes place before it ends, somewhere within the last few episodes. It's a... midquel, I guess the word is.

Unless there is more news I've missed. It still has yet to be established when this story takes place. All we know is that it takes place after the events of the Boo Arc when the world is at peace. This could either mean straight after the movies or after Oob. Because the Oob part still falls in into the Boo Arc.

[buutenks]

So why didnt shenron ress freeza back to his old intact self?Why in the many pieces?

DId they wish something like:I wish freeza was back to how he was before trunks vaporized him?

[Kamiccolo9]

So why didnt shenron ress freeza back to his old intact self?Why in the many pieces?

DId they wish something like:I wish freeza was back to how he was before trunks vaporized him?

I took it as Freeza didn't actually die until Trunks vaporized him. He was still alive when he was in a bunch of pieces, so the dragon brought him back in the last state he was alive in. Unless I'm mistaken, after Freeza is brought back in chunks, he still manages to react to the things around him, which shows he can survive in such a state.

As to the why, well, Shenron's just kinda a dick, I guess. Or he didn't want to help them any more than necessary.

[Hitiro]

So why didnt shenron ress freeza back to his old intact self?Why in the many pieces?

DId they wish something like:I wish freeza was back to how he was before trunks vaporized him?

Shelong explained it. He said that Freeza was reduced to such small fragments a long time ago that a full resurrection is not possible. Probably the fragments missing for full resurrection are now part of new life-forms like plants or animals so Shenlong can't interfere with their bodies just to bring back something that has died. Had his resurrection happened sooner then he probably could have been fully resurrected.

[buutenks]

So why didnt shenron ress freeza back to his old intact self?Why in the many pieces?

DId they wish something like:I wish freeza was back to how he was before trunks vaporized him?

I took it as Freeza didn't actually die until Trunks vaporized him. He was still alive when he was in a bunch of pieces, so the dragon brought him back in the last state he was alive in. Unless I'm mistaken, after Freeza is brought back in chunks, he still manages to react to the things around him, which shows he can survive in such a state.

As to the why, well, Shenron's just kinda a dick, I guess. Or he didn't want to help them any more than necessary.

Wow,hehe,man freeza is very resilient.Makes you wonder why he has issues with stamina lol.

So why didnt shenron ress freeza back to his old intact self?Why in the many pieces?

DId they wish something like:I wish freeza was back to how he was before trunks vaporized him?

Shelong explained it. He said that Freeza was reduced to such small fragments a long time ago that a full resurrection is not possible. Probably the fragments missing for full resurrection are now part of new life-forms like plants or animals so Shenlong can't interfere with their bodies just to bring back something that has died. Had his resurrection happened sooner then he probably could have been fully resurrected.

I see.Ye that makes sense i guess.

[Hugo Boss]

Wow, hehe, man. Freeza is very resilient. Makes you wonder why he has issues with stamina lol.

Maybe that's exactly the point. His life force probably consumes his ki vastly, specially when he is not used to control most of his power.