"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Chuquita]

I could do either one. Each has its benefits. Comes down to "more Beerus fun" vs "finally Vegeta and Bra interactions". Both are good.

[DBZ_Lee]

Toriyama Sensei has already re-wrote the end of Dragon Ball once, and I don't think he will do so again. I think it's clear he wants the ending to be Goku flying off with Uub, and leaving it up to the fans to decide for themselves what happens next.

I don't want to be watching the humans and Tien fighting in their zimmerframes.

At the end of the day, it is all down to opinion, and we are all different, otherwise the world would be a pretty boring place.

[Tennessaiyan]

If it comes after F then my interest will dip massively.

Same here. I think there has been enough done in the gap between the Buu saga and EOZ. I'm Much more interested in seeing things like Trunks and Goten as teens, and youngsters Pan and Bulla. It would also be cool to see how Beerus and Whis would be incorporated into that part of the timeline.

[ArchedThunder]

Toriyama Sensei has already re-wrote the end of Dragon Ball once, and I don't think he will do so again. I think it's clear he wants the ending to be Goku flying off with Uub, and leaving it up to the fans to decide for themselves what happens next.

I don't want to be watching the humans and Tenshinhan fighting in their zimmerframes.

At the end of the day, it is all down to opinion, and we are all different, otherwise the world would be a pretty boring place.

He didn't really rewrite the ending, he added to it, and DBS taking place after Z doesn't mean the ending would be rewritten and it would still stand as the ending for the original series. Also Toriyama has a habit of changing his mind, so his intentions on the ending years and years ago aren't really relevant to a series that he's working on after he pretty much left the franchise completely and then came back.

I will be very disappointed if DBS takes place before the end of Z, I want to see it finally move past that point.

[Dyno]

"Dragon Ball Kai is about to start~! Before Dragon Ball Super begins in July, watch Dragon Ball Kai!
— Victory"

Thank you. Nothing important indeed, kinda sad, but that's what I got for being too excited.

[Lord Beerus]

If it comes after F then my interest will dip massively.

Same here. I think there has been enough done in the gap between the Buu saga and EOZ. I'm Much more interested in seeing things like Trunks and Goten as teens, and youngsters Pan and Bulla. It would also be cool to see how Beerus and Whis would be incorporated into that part of the timeline.

But in the five years remaining in the gap, Goku trains with Goten, Gohan and Videl are raising a child, Vegeta knocks up Bulma again, #17 visits #18 and Krillin(?), and Lunch reappears. I certainly would like to see Dragon Ball Super take place after ROF, if only briefly, just to see those scenarios. It could provide development for the cast.

[Hellspawn28]

Knowing Toriyama, we are likely to get something original for the main villain of the saga then having another Saiyan like most fans are hoping for. Surviving saiyans would be a rehash of Radditz, Saiyan Saga Vegeta or Broli. You can't do much with surviving saiyans these days without rehashing them. Even Tullece was just Radditz 2.0 in my opinion.

Raditz and Vegeta don't count as they were introducing the saiyan race and the fact they were almost extinct.

Tullece and Broly I will give you even though Tullece and Raditz were very different characters.

By rehashing Radditz and Vegeta, I mean having characters that are the almost the same as them. Like having a evil Saiyan coming to Earth for the Dragon Balls to be immortal or come to Earth to kill everyone and take over it. Tullece was similar to Radditz as they both come to Earth looking for Goku and want to wipe out the Planet. Tullece wanting to use the Tree of Life is different then what Radditz had in mind, but they are pretty similar with each other in my opinion. Just having another surviving saiyan plot will feel like a bad AF fan fiction to me. It made happy when Table first show up that he was not a clone of Radditz like most fan fictions do.

[DBZ_Lee]

If it comes after F then my interest will dip massively.

Same here. I think there has been enough done in the gap between the Buu saga and EOZ. I'm Much more interested in seeing things like Trunks and Goten as teens, and youngsters Pan and Bulla. It would also be cool to see how Beerus and Whis would be incorporated into that part of the timeline.

But in the five years remaining in the gap, Goku trains with Goten, Gohan and Videl are raising a child, Vegeta knocks up Bulma again, #17 visits #18 and Krillin(?), and Lunch reappears. I certainly would like to see Dragon Ball Super take place after ROF, if only briefly, just to see those scenarios. It could provide development for the cast.

I would be shocked if it takes place post Manga. People saying they are fed up of being in the 10 year gap, I can see what they are saying, totally, but I think we are in there for a good reason. Everyone is at their strongest, and with Toriyama bringing in the new SSGSS forms, and Beerus and Whis, it seems a safe bet to assume Super will begin a matter of months or weeks even post Frieza.

And I don't think Toriyama will be too bothered about Bulma saying she's not seen Goku in 5 years, they can remedy this with a visit to Shenron - Goku annoying Bulma big time, and getting Shenron to forget she's seen him or something.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Or Toriyama could just not care about the line regarding Bluma not seeing Goku for 5 years. As I already said on this page, the line isn't really important seeing how they've already retconned the gap being 10 years of peace. In the end, just chalk it up as being just another inconsistency the same as Trunks telling everyone to watch out for 19 & 20.

[TheGameTagerZ]

Hopefully this is accurate. Their site isn't exactly known for perfect translations.

Exciting news, though! I very much enjoyed Toyotarō's Revival of 'F' adaptation.

The site makes it unclear as to whether Toriyama is writing the dialogue and Toyotarō's doing the art, or whether this is just him adapting what's roughly seen in the show on his own.

Yes it's correct, no we didn't mess up on it. If you're talking about the times where VegetaEX and the other translator came in then just know they do that all the time especially in places like AnimeNewsNetwork when they cover anything DBZ related yet no one calls that out lol.

The scan also doesn't say much at all other than what's given there. We should see more details next month.

[Chuquita]

It doesn't bother me if they ignore the Bulma five year line. Not that attached to it.

[sintzu]

These two articles appeared in my Google news feed this morning claiming Super will be 100-200 episodes long and have a manga adaption:

http://www.inquisitr.com/2078792/dragon ... e-records/
http://www.designntrend.com/articles/50 ... essful.htm

Still no confirmation from TOEI.

This was from last week so with the manga part being true hopefully the episode count is as well.

Do mangas in V jump get released in volumes like Shonen jump ?

[Big Momma]

I'm wonder why people would think it won't take place after "F". Why would they miss the opportunity to further utilize Beerus/Whis/and the new forms? Why would they put this story back before all of that new stuff was introduced?

[ArchedThunder]

I'm wonder why people would think it won't take place after "F". Why would they miss the opportunity to further utilize Beerus/Whis/and the new forms? Why would they put this story back before all of that new stuff was introduced?

The big argument isn't whether it will be before or after F, but if it will be after F or after the end of Z.

[Chuquita]

I think Kai is a big reason why the uncertainty. Its ED is all EoZ, but Kai was made before Super was decided on (I think) and if that's the case, that Kai is a non-factor in all this, then it probably is F instead.

[ArchedThunder]

I think Kai is a big reason why the uncertainty. Its ED is all EoZ, but Kai was made before Super was decided on (I think) and if that's the case, that Kai is a non-factor in all this, then it probably is F instead.

But if it wasn't after EoZ they could have just kept using the second to last ED and cut the EoZ out of it for the Japanese broadcast version of Kai.

[dbzfan7]

If it comes after F then my interest will dip massively.

I'm on this boat, but I wouldn't say my interest dips massively. It definitely diminishes greatly as I want to move out of the gap. I wanna see what happens next, not what happens before the true ending.

[Chuquita]

I think Kai is a big reason why the uncertainty. Its ED is all EoZ, but Kai was made before Super was decided on (I think) and if that's the case, that Kai is a non-factor in all this, then it probably is F instead.

But if it wasn't after EoZ they could have just kept using the second to last ED and cut the EoZ out of it for the Japanese broadcast version of Kai.

They may not care enough to bother, they are Toei after all. All depends on how they want to utilize Kai.

Also, they can't cut the ED without messing with the band they paid for the song from.

[Big Momma]

I'm wonder why people would think it won't take place after "F". Why would they miss the opportunity to further utilize Beerus/Whis/and the new forms? Why would they put this story back before all of that new stuff was introduced?

The big argument isn't whether it will be before or after F, but if it will be after F or after the end of Z.

That's fair enough, then. I just remembered seeing one or two people speculating on it taking place before BoG and was going off of that.

[kei17]

Toyotaro's manga adaptation, huh? He's certainly good as a doujin artist, but I've never thought he's good as a professional manga artist. He's only good at imitating Toriyama's style and that's it. He's not enough trained as a pro to take over Toriyama. I'm absolutely certain that his manga will suck.

I see Goku is in his "F" outfit, possible confirmation it is indeed set after "F"?

It's just Toriyama's F art.

No, it's Toryotaro's art.