Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection '

Post by Jackal puFF » Tue May 19, 2015 4:19 am

Haha! I love how Vegeta just teleports away right before Frieza gets it. It's pretty funny to me. His facial expression and everything.

Not too keen on how they transform.. I don't like that teal ice breaking look right before they turn.

Really wish the blue hair was for Vegeta only.. Would have been great to see Goku with red and Vegeta with blue.. Or I mean Goku with magenta and Vegeta with teal.. :?

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Post by Stevenseagal » Tue May 19, 2015 7:24 am

Gotta say, ssjgssj looks so much better than i thought it would, in all the tv spots the hair looked almost light greenish, in the 28 minute video it didn't look anything like that, looks way better in motion.


I also wonder why whis is training with goku and vegeta in base form, makes it hard to gauge just how good whis is.

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Post by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Tue May 19, 2015 8:59 am

So, I, uh, buckled and watched it. Still heading out to see it twice in theatres, though! Japanese DVD? Eh, not so sure this time around. As awesome as that second trailer was, I don't think it's worth paying $50 to import the thing- even if it does come with a poster. Madman should have me covered on that front this time (they usually give out movie posters with their screenings). :lol:

Er, anyway. I'll save my more in-depth thoughts for when I've actually seen the film in full, but here's some quick observations:
- The movie is quite nice looking. A couple of those hits were really well animated (you know the ones!), as was the start of Earth's destruction. The cloudy skies also made for an interesting atmosphere. There were a couple of slightly awkward moments (there was one part where Goku's fingers looked really stiff), but it wasn't nearly as bad as people thought it was going to be when the first trailer came out. The CGI blended in a lot better than it did in BOG, although it still stuck out a bit though.

- While the more realistic choreography was neat, the combat did feel a little slow for my liking. There were very few jaw-dropping, "holy crap, this is awesome" moments, in the same way that BOG had the Hero scene and even the underground fight in the lead-up to it. While I obviously haven't seen the whole thing yet, this movie does seem to be lacking that one special, memorable moment. I guess Vegeta's scene was kind of meant to be that, and it was awesome to see his character in such a commanding role, but...it was just a one-sided beat-down on a character that was already beaten. Vegeta was still pretty cool, though. I get the feeling that his true moment in the spotlight is coming very soon. Right now, it almost feels like Toriyama is turning this into a running gag, as he builds toward the ultimate pay-off. Vegeta can't be denied forever. :P Super might just be the one to deliver on this.

- I was kind of annoyed with the way F carried on through the ice cream scene with Beerus and Whis. Felt like they were wasting the song, especially since that little conversation carried on for a while.

- Was it just me, or did everything happen incredibly quickly? Freeza's death felt like a bit of an anti-climax. He was gone in no time at all, but I guess that was kind of the point. It is sort of reminiscent of his first defeat to Goku. Sorbet shooting Goku was also a lot shorter than I expected it to be, though. It didn't have the impact that I expected, either. I don't know if it was intentional, but the homages to Vegeta's first death and the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai were neat. Also noticed a few references to the original Goku vs. Freeza fight. This movie almost seems like an excuse to put a rematch of the most iconic fight in the show on the big screen (and in IMAX 3D!). Surprised they didn't push that more in the marketing.

- Surprisingly, I really enjoyed Freeza's transformation. I think it might've been the music and his dialogue afterwards. :P

So from what I've seen (way more than I should have :oops: ), I very much agree with Julian's initial review. I do have a lot more to say, but that's obviously reserved for when I've seen the whole movie in one go (although I never got around to writing a full BOG review), from start to finish. It looks fun and there's a lot of things I like. At the same time, it feels like another missed opportunity. I do feel kind of guilty about spoiling myself like this, but with the new series coming, I probably don't feel as bad as I should...

I really hate to say this, but my thoughts have already moved on to next movie (if there is one). Will be very interesting to see if it's branded under the Dragon Ball Super name. Maybe it'll even tie into the main story somehow? Oooohhh...now that'll be a forum thread and a half. Super really killed off most of the hype surrounding this one, unfortunately. I think the premiere in L.A also contributed to that, somewhat. With BOG, we only had a hand-full of short reviews until it finally hit DVD in the latter half of 2013.

Sorry if this post reads a bit poorly. First substantial one in a little bit and my brain has been sucked dry by university essays. :thumbdown:

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Post by JahSly90 » Tue May 19, 2015 9:03 am

Polyphase Avatron wrote:
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Polyphase Avatron wrote:I thought he fired ki into the core of the planet which caused all of that lava and stuff to appear and then blow up the Earth.

Nope. He used a Kiai wave with his hand on the ground.
It was way more than enough force to destroy the planet.
Well you see a scene of some flashes or something going through the crust and into the core of the Earth.

Yeah. Once freeza emitted the kiai force from his hand, it immediately caused the planet to collapse which in turn caused the inner core to be destroyed sending lava up to the surface all over the planet.

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Post by sintzu » Tue May 19, 2015 9:52 am

DragonBoxZTheMovies wrote:This movie almost seems like an excuse to put a rematch of the most iconic fight in the show on the big screen.
And have Freeza be the 1st villain to go up against the new Ssj form.
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Post by SSJGFrieza » Tue May 19, 2015 10:07 am

This movie almost seems like an excuse to put a rematch of the most iconic fight in the show on the big screen.
And the rematch sucked.

There was no need for this movie at all.
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Post by Vegitofaxx » Tue May 19, 2015 10:10 am

SSJGFrieza wrote:
This movie almost seems like an excuse to put a rematch of the most iconic fight in the show on the big screen.
And the rematch sucked.

There was no need for this movie at all.
Except generate more popularity for the franchise, and thus making a new friggin' series possible! More content is required for more content.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Tue May 19, 2015 11:09 am

I have no idea how you guys can spoil yourselves with that terrible cam rip. Is waiting a few months really that hard?

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Post by Lord Beerus » Tue May 19, 2015 11:20 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:I have no idea how you guys can spoil yourselves with that terrible cam rip. Is waiting a few months really that hard?
Hey, when people love a franchise like Dragon Ball so much, it can cause them to be a little impatient. Can't really blame some people for finally giving in to the urge to seeing the movie early. I'm willing to wait for the Blu-Ray release to make my final judgment on the movie.

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Post by BlackCatScott » Tue May 19, 2015 11:51 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:I have no idea how you guys can spoil yourselves with that terrible cam rip. Is waiting a few months really that hard?
I've been really good with this one. I've seen the trailers, but aside from that I've done my best to steer clear of any clips or leaked footage. Unfortunately I still stumble across the odd shot that I didn't want to see every now + then, but that's the risk you take when you're browsing the net. With Battle of Gods I had watched the official clips and a couple of leaked scenes. Reason being was that I didn't know whether FUNimation were going to license it at the time. I didn't know it would be coming to the UK etc. Also, my first viewing of it was in Japanese. With the new film I know that I can hold out a few months because one way or another I'll be watching it in HD and in English, whether that be on my tv or (hopefully) the big screen, pretty soon.

Also dodged the Kanzenshuu summary, even though I heard some details on here. I want as much of it as possible to be a surprise and new to me, not something I've seen recorded off a toaster etc.

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Post by Lord Frieza » Tue May 19, 2015 12:50 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
Lord Freeza wrote:You know if I didn't know better I would swear Freeza's singled out Gohan for the one hit ko purely as payback for movie 12. :D
Well, considering that RF and DBZ movie 12 can't possibly take place in the same continuity, I doubt that was the case.
I was aware of that but thank you Beerus.

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Post by Lord Frieza » Tue May 19, 2015 1:40 pm

pacz360 wrote:So Freeza destroy earth with only a kiai? :shock:
That is impressive, he may have lost in the end but he did learn from some of his mistakes. Before he would have tried to destroy the planet with an' over sized Death Ball. None would have predicted that he would do something like that.

Also someone suggested that he did it with his punches, interesting. Someone once said to me that in the manga Piccolo said Freeza in his final form could destroy Namek with his strength alone. Is that true? Because if it is then is the biggest time gap between feat being stated and actually seeing it I have ever seen.

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Post by Lord Frieza » Tue May 19, 2015 1:42 pm

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Post by Doctor. » Tue May 19, 2015 1:43 pm

It's not that impressive.

They were hurting each other in the Boo arc with Kiais and we know they can survive a planet explosion to the face with minimal damage, so it's obvious their Kiais had that much power.

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Post by Lord Frieza » Tue May 19, 2015 1:50 pm

Doctor. wrote:It's not that impressive.

They were hurting each other in the Boo arc with Kiais and we know they can survive a planet explosion to the face with minimal damage, so it's obvious their Kiais had that much power.
Yest but none has ever actually used it like that before which is nice to see. :)

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Post by Marco Polo » Tue May 19, 2015 2:06 pm

Arale split the Earth in two with a punch also.

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Post by Mr.Judge » Tue May 19, 2015 2:11 pm

White Oni wrote:So I guess, in light of the ring blast feat, this isn't really a feat worth mentioning anymore.
Can anybody explain the inconsistency here which is being equated to Goku's life is hanging by a thread from an attack of Sorbet?
This same attack was also used on weapons of pilaf gang. if it was such a powerful attack then that attack would have killed the gang after piercing the guns.'

unless some people give explanation that the ring also received Gohan's rage boost after Vegeta.

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Post by FortuneSSJ » Tue May 19, 2015 4:06 pm

-Already watched the entire Goku and Vegeta vs Freeza fights (leaked scenes) -

I'm really statisfied with the animation.
Even though I still hate CGI, ROF doesn't seem to have any shit scene like BOG had. The problem is that while the flow is great, the impact of their blows sometimes isn't there. Doesn't feel right.

Vegeta fight should be longer.

Beerus and Whis, even on the sidelines, shine the brightest. There's great comedy with them.
I loved when Freeza asked Beerus if he would go against his revenge, and he just said that doesn't give a fuck. And keeps eating with Whis.

Freeza just proved once again why he's the best villain ever. I'm glad his character wasn't ruined. And that he even bothered to think about Plan B.

Sorbert piercing Goku's heart is better animated than I thought. When Kei talked about censorship, I thought the worse, but for my suprise I liked what I saw.
We don't see the beam totally piercing Goku (like Freeza death beam pierced vegeta) but works for me.

Together with Yamcha absence and lack of Freeza's training, his death was the most disappointing thing. Completely the opposite that I want.
My reaction was the same than Vegeta and Freeza: "What the ?!" Didn't like that one bit. And Goku just stolen Vegeta kill.

The ending was perfect though. Vegeta saying that's the first time he and Goku share the same opinion right away really got me.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Tue May 19, 2015 4:30 pm

Mr.Judge wrote:
White Oni wrote:So I guess, in light of the ring blast feat, this isn't really a feat worth mentioning anymore.
Can anybody explain the inconsistency here which is being equated to Goku's life is hanging by a thread from an attack of Sorbet?
This same attack was also used on weapons of pilaf gang. if it was such a powerful attack then that attack would have killed the gang after piercing the guns.'

unless some people give explanation that the ring also received Gohan's rage boost after Vegeta.
Basically a mere beam weapon that is nothing special beyond the P-Shooters that any ordinary soldier uses, can still kill Goku just cause he wasn't looking. Some people think it's ok and make sense. Others say it's bullshit. I'm on the side that it's bullshit and apparently a trusty pump action could kill the gods if they ain't keeping their guards up. :D

So dat final 27 minutes. Like I thought. For me at least, it's best to just push out everything I know about Dragon Ball. Come in like a new person, and suddenly everything is better. I await the day I don't have to do this. The last few fights were nicely done, but too slow. Sometimes things just look like a leisurely flight without any sense of ferocity. Vegeta pulls off his power up better than Goku. Goku sounds like he literally farted out SSGSS, which the entire form was anyways. Oh and bring back the Super Saiyan aura sound for every form. The SSJG one sounds so boring to listen to.

Golden Freeza warms up to me somewhat, but I still ain't a fan at all. Gohan and Krilln's faces are priceless, like they can't believe this is the new look they're going for :lol:. Also this movie really makes me want the Namek balls to go away. They sap any tension since they are the ultimate alternative. Still hype for the mook rush as it's supposed to be the best fight, even if it's super beings vs nameless dogs.
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Post by Birusu16 » Tue May 19, 2015 5:20 pm

So finally saw the last 27 minutes leak. Here's my thoughts.

Pros:

The animation
Beerus and Whis
SSJGSSJ (it looks so much better here compared to that other leak where it almost looked green and I absolutely love the aura)
Vegeta beating down Freeza (though the fight being as short as it was is a negative)
The one-inch punch by Goku (absolutely loved that)
Jaco
Vegeta saving Goku
Freeza blowing up the earth

Cons:

The CGI (it was incredibly jarring at times)
The length of Vegeta vs Freeza
Golden Freeza (I simply don't like the form)
Whis reversing time (another deus ex machina I'm not particularly happy with considering DB already had one with the dragon balls)
The fights. They just looked a bit too slow for my liking. I'll never condone them just showing dots clashing like they do at times in this series, but the fights just looked like they were too slow. I'd of preferred something similar to the Beerus vs Goku fight when "Hero" started playing in BoGs.

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