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So it must be theatrical release. At any rate Manga said they'll upload the panel later, so maybe more info was said there?
I don't wanna feel like jumping the gun. But...
Dragon Ball Z seems like it's one gigantic step closer to coming to UK cinemas. Please let this be real!!!
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Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Lord Beerus wrote:I don't wanna feel like jumping the gun. But...
Dragon Ball Z seems like it's one gigantic step closer to coming to UK cinemas. Please let this be real!!!
If what UKA said holds any kind of meaning, then it seems we may get it toward the back end of the Summer, which would be amazing.
Let's cross our fingers that we get a confirmation soon.
EDIT:
UKAnime have now said they believe they were referring to a home video release, as theatrical wasn't mentioned either way.
MasterVampire wrote:So after the Earth got blown up how come everyone was freaking out since the Earth dragonballs are gone?
Did they forget that Goku could teleport them all to New Namek and use their dragonballs to restore the Earth?
Death is something scary that hurts. Just because the possibility of resurrecting exists in the DB universe doesn't mean death becomes a trivial matter.
Marco Polo wrote:Just because the possibility of resurrecting exists in the DB universe doesn't mean death becomes a trivial matter.
Considering how Piccolo sacrificed all of the Earth's population back in the Boo arc, I'd say it is...
He had no choice. Nobody could stop Buu at the time and Piccolo was visibly upset with it.
I'm aware, but it's still a method of buying time available at any time. They have two methods of revival, three now provided the right conditions are met, and the point stands that we have had an occasion before where innocent people were sacrificed because they could be revived. So, I think it's pretty safe to say that death has become and is a trivial matter for a long time now.
Doctor. wrote:
Considering how Piccolo sacrificed all of the Earth's population back in the Boo arc, I'd say it is...
He had no choice. Nobody could stop Buu at the time and Piccolo was visibly upset with it.
I'm aware, but it's still a method of buying time available at any time. They have two methods of revival, three now provided the right conditions are met, and the point stands that we have had an occasion before where innocent people were sacrificed because they could be revived. So, I think it's pretty safe to say that death has become and is a trivial matter for a long time now.
Death is still very much not a trivial matter. Piccolo was physically pained and knew he'd just done something horrible, but he expected it to buy them the time they needed to save who they could and the universe along with them.
Which then backfired as Buu decided to forgo fun and simply perform instant genocide, which also visibly pained him.
So no, not trivial, not flippant.
"I wanted you to see what real courage is, instead of getting the idea that courage is a man with a gun in his hand. It’s when you know you’re licked before you begin but you begin anyway and you see it through no matter what." - Harper Lee, To Kill a Mockingbird (1960)
“I learned that courage was not the absence of fear, but the triumph over it. The brave man is not he who does not feel afraid, but he who conquers that fear.” - Nelson Mandela
MasterVampire wrote:So after the Earth got blown up how come everyone was freaking out since the Earth dragonballs are gone?
Did they forget that Goku could teleport them all to New Namek and use their dragonballs to restore the Earth?
Death is something scary that hurts. Just because the possibility of resurrecting exists in the DB universe doesn't mean death becomes a trivial matter.
Well restoring the entire planet and everyone on it had been implied to be taxing on Porunga, and tbh I doubt the Namekians are going to be happy having to hand over the use of their Dragon Balls every time the Earth has a problem.
It's possible sure, but... knowing your family, your kids, your wives and husbands, are all dead... that'll still hurt. A lot.
"I wanted you to see what real courage is, instead of getting the idea that courage is a man with a gun in his hand. It’s when you know you’re licked before you begin but you begin anyway and you see it through no matter what." - Harper Lee, To Kill a Mockingbird (1960)
“I learned that courage was not the absence of fear, but the triumph over it. The brave man is not he who does not feel afraid, but he who conquers that fear.” - Nelson Mandela
Doctor. wrote:I'm aware, but it's still a method of buying time available at any time. They have two methods of revival, three now provided the right conditions are met, and the point stands that we have had an occasion before where innocent people were sacrificed because they could be revived. So, I think it's pretty safe to say that death has become and is a trivial matter for a long time now.
Agreed. Namek balls especially ruin all tension, and trivialize all death. It's the worst thing to be reintroduced in the Boo arc powered up, and kept around.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
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Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
From an out-verse perspective then sure death could be seen as pretty trivial, but in-verse it is not the case at all, it is like if someone got shot in leg, they'll know they'll live but does it soften the pain? Absolutely not.
How trivial death is in the series depends on the eyes of the character you're looking through. The Saiyans like Goku and Vegeta seem to look at it as if everything will be okay as long as they have their reset button, while the other warriors are still actually saddened by the events. Normal people, even within our group of heroes, like Bluma still take it the hardest though.
Direct translations of the Korean DB Online timeline and guidebook.
My personal "canon" and BP list. (Coming Soon)
An example is Yamcha treated death like a horrible thing in the end of the Freeza arc, while Bulma was hardly phased by Goku's death. Even Gohan didn't seem that devastated. In the movie they apparently forget the Namek balls exist, which would fix everything anyways.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:How trivial death is in the series depends on the eyes of the character you're looking through. The Saiyans like Goku and Vegeta seem to look at it as if everything will be okay as long as they have their reset button, while the other warriors are still actually saddened by the events. Normal people, even within our group of heroes, like Bluma still take it the hardest though.
Bulma took Goku supposedly dying on Namek with a laugh and a big case of whatevs at first. That is until they realized the whole hed be brought back right where Namek used to be.
In fairness, Goku was quite upset that the Earth was gone and chastised himself for not ending it when he had a chance.
So I wouldn't say it doesn't affect them. Just maybe not the same way as others, but it affects them nonetheless.
"I wanted you to see what real courage is, instead of getting the idea that courage is a man with a gun in his hand. It’s when you know you’re licked before you begin but you begin anyway and you see it through no matter what." - Harper Lee, To Kill a Mockingbird (1960)
“I learned that courage was not the absence of fear, but the triumph over it. The brave man is not he who does not feel afraid, but he who conquers that fear.” - Nelson Mandela
KentalSSJ6 wrote:Bulma took Goku supposedly dying on Namek with a laugh and a big case of whatevs at first. That is until they realized the whole hed be brought back right where Namek used to be.
They also have two sets of Dragon Balls on Earth at that point in time. In addition to that, Bluma has a huge complex over Goku being some sort of invincible hero throughout most of the series. He is pretty much the only character she ever shrugs off, while everyone else she'll feel sad for and the loss of anyone in her family still makes her cry even prior to "F" (see Vegeta's sacrifice against Buu, despite there being options for New Namek).
Direct translations of the Korean DB Online timeline and guidebook.
My personal "canon" and BP list. (Coming Soon)