Did Goku's lifespan increased? Theory!

[Kamiccolo9]

I feel we're delving into semantics here. Fine, Kami is "God." But it's not the same thing as what Goku became, what the kais are, or what the god of destruction is. They all have god ki (yes, I know this is a fan term) and a certain form of control over the universe (Goku was offered this). Kami does not. You can argue that no one ever sensed his powers, but every one can sense Dende, who holds the same exact position. Also, Kami wasn't the original Kami either; he's merely a namekian who replaced a previous guardian (I'll still use that term because he IS technically a guardian), just as Dende replaced him. Finally, Piccolo fused with him, yet still possesses regular ki. There is literally nothing unique about Kami. He's just a pretentious green idiot. >_>;

I don't understand why people try to act like Kami isn't a legitimate god. Everything says he is. He says he is. Everybody else says he is. Every piece of supplemental material says he is. Literally nothing aside from Funimation's dub says otherwise, and that's only because they were too afraid that frightened American children would complain to their mothers about "God" being on TV.

[fadeddreams5]

I feel we're delving into semantics here. Fine, Kami is "God." But it's not the same thing as what Goku became, what the kais are, or what the god of destruction is. They all have god ki (yes, I know this is a fan term) and a certain form of control over the universe (Goku was offered this). Kami does not. You can argue that no one ever sensed his powers, but every one can sense Dende, who holds the same exact position. Also, Kami wasn't the original Kami either; he's merely a namekian who replaced a previous guardian (I'll still use that term because he IS technically a guardian), just as Dende replaced him. Finally, Piccolo fused with him, yet still possesses regular ki. There is literally nothing unique about Kami. He's just a pretentious green idiot. >_>;

I don't understand why people try to act like Kami isn't a legitimate god. Everything says he is. He says he is. Everybody else says he is. Every piece of supplemental material says he is. Literally nothing aside from Funimation's dub says otherwise, and that's only because they were too afraid that frightened American children would complain to their mothers about "God" being on TV.

I'm not saying he isn't. I'm just saying he's not a "god" in the same sense the kais are.

The kaioshin actually create planets. The gods of destruction balance that out. The regular kais monitor their quadrant of the universe. They all have special ki, and when they die, the rules of the other world do not really apply to them. Kami just watches over a planet. If he bites the dust, he's treated like any mortal. He possesses no special ki. As far as I know, not every planet has a guardian/god either. Again, he's a pretentious green idiot and should not be compared to post-god Goku, who was offered a role that requires longevity in age.

[Kamiccolo9]

I feel we're delving into semantics here. Fine, Kami is "God." But it's not the same thing as what Goku became, what the kais are, or what the god of destruction is. They all have god ki (yes, I know this is a fan term) and a certain form of control over the universe (Goku was offered this). Kami does not. You can argue that no one ever sensed his powers, but every one can sense Dende, who holds the same exact position. Also, Kami wasn't the original Kami either; he's merely a namekian who replaced a previous guardian (I'll still use that term because he IS technically a guardian), just as Dende replaced him. Finally, Piccolo fused with him, yet still possesses regular ki. There is literally nothing unique about Kami. He's just a pretentious green idiot. >_>;

I don't understand why people try to act like Kami isn't a legitimate god. Everything says he is. He says he is. Everybody else says he is. Every piece of supplemental material says he is. Literally nothing aside from Funimation's dub says otherwise, and that's only because they were too afraid that frightened American children would complain to their mothers about "God" being on TV.

I'm not saying he isn't. I'm just saying he's not a "god" in the same sense the kais are.

The kaioshin actually create planets. The gods of destruction balance that out. The regular kais monitor their quadrant of the universe. They all have special ki, and when they die, the rules of the other world do not really apply to them. Kami just watches over a planet. If he bites the dust, he's treated like any mortal. He possesses no special ki. As far as I know, not every planet has a guardian/god either. Again, he's a pretentious green idiot.

He's a lower level god. The fact that there are higher level gods doesn't make him less of a god.

Even other gods call him the god of Earth. Enma does, Kaio does, Popo and Karin both refer to him as god.

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean he's not a legitimate god. Again, you're forgetting that being a god is a job. No one that we know of in the DB universe is born a god.

[fadeddreams5]

He's a lower level god. The fact that there are higher level gods doesn't make him less of a god.

Even other gods call him the god of Earth. Enma does, Kaio does, Popo and Karin both refer to him as god.

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean he's not a legitimate god. Again, you're forgetting that being a god is a job. No one that we know of in the DB universe is born a god.

I think you're misunderstanding me. I'm calling him pretentious because he calls himself Kami, not because I refuse to acknowledge that he is god of Earth. I know the series refers to him as a god. I'm just saying, he doesn't have the unique qualities of the higher level gods, so he's not really comparable to SSJG Goku or a god of destruction either. He's just some normal namekian who replaced the previous guardian/god of Earth to do his job.

[Kamiccolo9]

He's a lower level god. The fact that there are higher level gods doesn't make him less of a god.

Even other gods call him the god of Earth. Enma does, Kaio does, Popo and Karin both refer to him as god.

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean he's not a legitimate god. Again, you're forgetting that being a god is a job. No one that we know of in the DB universe is born a god.

I think you're misunderstanding me. I'm calling him pretentious because he calls himself Kami, not because I refuse to acknowledge that he is god of Earth. I know the series refers to him as a god. I'm just saying, he doesn't have the unique qualities of the higher level gods, so he's not really comparable to SSJG Goku or a god of destruction either.

Is Kaio pretentious for calling himself "The Lord of Worlds?"
Kami has unique qualities. He can go back and forth between the mortal realm and the afterlife at will. He can allow Earthlings to keep their bodies after dying. He has the authority to petition Enma on their behalf.

[fadeddreams5]

Is Kaio pretentious for calling himself "The Lord of Worlds?"

Well...yeah! lol. But it's in his character. Wasn't that actually a joke in the Other World Tournament saga? Well, maybe in the dub.

Kami has unique qualities. He can go back and forth between the mortal realm and the afterlife at will. He can allow Earthlings to keep their bodies after dying. He has the authority to petition Enma on their behalf.

Baba can do one of those things and bring people back from the dead for a finite time. >.>

Fine, the job comes with some perks. He's still technically a mortal with a fancy job title and pretentious name.

[Kamiccolo9]

He's still technically a mortal with a fancy job title and pretentious name.

Like every other god in the series.

[fadeddreams5]

He's still technically a mortal with a fancy job title and pretentious name.

Like every other god in the series.

So Beerus is mortal and his talks to Goku about accessing divine power was just him speaking out of his ass?

[Kamiccolo9]

He's still technically a mortal with a fancy job title and pretentious name.

Like every other god in the series.

So Beerus is mortal and his talks to Goku about accessing divine power was just him speaking out of his ass?

Beerus is mortal because Whis offered Goku the job when Beerus died.
The old Kaioshin died. Babidi ordered Buu to kill Kaioshin. Kaio died. Gods in Dragon Ball have never been immortal.

[fadeddreams5]

I was thinking mortal ki, not lifespan when I used that word. Poor choice of words. = P

You're right about their mortality though.

[GokuRules987]

Beerus is mortal because Whis offered Goku the job when Beerus died.
The old Kaioshin died. Babidi ordered Buu to kill Kaioshin. Kaio died. Gods in Dragon Ball have never been immortal.

But they have long life spans, and like i said in the beginning does obtaining godly ki increased Goku's life span? and you said no because you compared Kami life span to Gokus. Kami might be a god but only certain gods like Beerus actually posses godly ki which makes them unique from gods like Kami the planet guardians or Kais who are in charge of parts of galaxies
you cant compare kami to super saiyan god goku because they are both different characters with different ki sources. THE END!

[Kamiccolo9]

Beerus is mortal because Whis offered Goku the job when Beerus died.
The old Kaioshin died. Babidi ordered Buu to kill Kaioshin. Kaio died. Gods in Dragon Ball have never been immortal.

But they have long life spans, and like i said in the beginning does obtaining godly ki increased Goku's life span? and you said no because you compared Kami life span to Gokus. Kami might be a god but only certain gods like Beerus actually posses godly ki which makes them unique from gods like Kami the planet guardians or Kais who are in charge of parts of galaxies
you cant compare kami to super saiyan god goku because they are both different characters with different ki sources. THE END!

You have to prove that their life spans are the result of godhood, and not merely due to being long-lived species. As it stands, nothing supports that. The one character whose lifespan is actually mentioned and who is also a god didn't have his lifespan increased by becoming one. There is no reason to assume that Goku would either. Nothing indicates that he would.

[fadeddreams5]

Kami became a god the same way Dende did: replacing some guy in a job position.

Goku became a god by obtaining a specific power thought to be exclusive to the highest level gods, who's lifespans are greater than any living creature.

[Kamiccolo9]

Kami became a god the same way Dende did: replacing some guy in a job position.

Goku became a god by obtaining a specific power thought to be exclusive to the highest level gods, who's lifespans are greater than any living creature.

Goku was offered the God of Destruction position in the same way that Dende was offered the God of Earth position.

What part of this do you not understand? Godhood in Dragon Ball is a job, not a species. Not all of Kaio's species become Kaio. Not all of Kaioshin's species become Kaioshin. They are just long lived species who get offered godhood as a job. This is more than likely the same case for Beerus, given how Goku was offered his job.

And you're just making up the stuff about them having the lifespans greater than any living creature. Nothing says that.

[fadeddreams5]

Kami became a god the same way Dende did: replacing some guy in a job position.

Goku became a god by obtaining a specific power thought to be exclusive to the highest level gods, who's lifespans are greater than any living creature.

Goku was offered the God of Destruction position in the same way that Dende was offered the God of Earth position.

What part of this do you not understand? Godhood in Dragon Ball is a job, not a species. Not all of Kaio's species become Kaio. Not all of Kaioshin's species become Kaioshin. They are just long lived species who get offered godhood as a job. This is more than likely the same case for Beerus, given how Goku was offered his job.

And you're just making up the stuff about them having the lifespans greater than any living creature. Nothing says that.

The OP's question has nothing to do with "god" as a job, which is what you're not getting. The question is really, "does Goku's new god ki increase his longevity?" Kami does not possess this. Beerus is said to have lived for like 75 million years, and the kaioshin have a lifespan of 750,000 years. Why would Whis ask Goku to replace Beerus if he can only live for like 100 years or less? It's a pretty valid question.

Goku obtained a ki that cannot be sensed by non-gods, and something Beerus implies is an ascension to divinity. Forget godhood. This ki is what this topic is about.

[Kamiccolo9]

Kami became a god the same way Dende did: replacing some guy in a job position.

Goku became a god by obtaining a specific power thought to be exclusive to the highest level gods, who's lifespans are greater than any living creature.

Goku was offered the God of Destruction position in the same way that Dende was offered the God of Earth position.

What part of this do you not understand? Godhood in Dragon Ball is a job, not a species. Not all of Kaio's species become Kaio. Not all of Kaioshin's species become Kaioshin. They are just long lived species who get offered godhood as a job. This is more than likely the same case for Beerus, given how Goku was offered his job.

And you're just making up the stuff about them having the lifespans greater than any living creature. Nothing says that.

The OP's question has nothing to do with "god" as a job, which is what you're not getting. The question is really, "does Goku's new god ki increase his longevity?" Kami does not possess this. Beerus is said to have lived for like 75 million years, and the kaioshin have a lifespan of 750,000 years. Why would Whis ask Goku to replace Beerus if he can only live for like 100 years or less? It's a pretty valid question.

Goku obtained a ki that cannot be sensed by mortals, and something Beerus implies is an ascension to divinity. Forget godhood. This ki is what this topic is about.

Divinity is godhood. That's what the word means.
And as Herms has repeatedly said, "god ki" isn't a thing. Beerus being that kind of god made his ki undetectable; his ki being undetectable did not make him a god.
Anyway, nothing remotely indicates that Goku's lifespan was increased. Nothing remotely indicates that Beerus's was. It's just a case of people hearing the word "god," and not being able to separate the meaning of it in Dragon Ball from whatever they think it means in real life.

[fadeddreams5]

Wasn't there a scene where SSJG Goku's ki couldn't be sensed by others though?

If so, god ki is a thing, though that term is made up. >.>

[Kamiccolo9]

Wasn't there a scene where SSJG Goku's ki couldn't be sensed by others though?

If so, god ki is a thing, though that term is made up. >.>

You keep acting like it has to be the case that their ki is somehow different, which is never said.
They can't sense Goku because he became a certain kind of god, not because his power is fundamentally different than everyone else's.

[Polyphase Avatron]

I would say it is definitely possible.

[GokuRules987]

Wasn't there a scene where SSJG Goku's ki couldn't be sensed by others though?

If so, god ki is a thing, though that term is made up. >.>

You keep acting like it has to be the case that their ki is somehow different, which is never said.
They can't sense Goku because he became a certain kind of god, not because his power is fundamentally different than everyone else's.

NOPE! Since the beggining of the battle of gods. It always went like this

GODLY KI= GOD

NOT

GOD=GODLY KI

Kami being a god is nothing more than a hyperbole to convince 6 years olds of a magical man looking over the earth from the sky. Until Battle of gods we havent seen an actual deity god that is powered by a complete different source of energy.

The battle of gods clearly dispels the old idea of gods and that actual gods have godly ki! So unless you have some kind of logical proof that kami had godly ki your point is BS.

Show me the proof that kami actually has godly ki? And you have to prove me that hes actually a god. And just because someone said that hes a god doesnt mean that hes actually a god. So its another hyperbole.