"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[TheDevilsCorpse]

I was just reading over the press release again, and it says that "Dragon Ball Super will follow the aftermath of Goku’s fierce battle with Majin Buu", which wouldn't really make sense if it takes place after EoZ, or even after RoF. You wouldn't say the Cell games follows the aftermath of Goku's battle with Vegeta, or the arrival of Buu follows the aftermath of Freeza.

It's not the most ideal/common phrasing, but not technically incorrect either. The Cell Arc does happen after the Saiyan Arc and the Buu Arc happens after the Freeza Arc, there is just other content in between.

There have been a decent number of mentions post Buu events in press material as well with statements involving Beerus and Freeza. If this is really set before those events, there wouldn't be any reason to bring them up.

[Makai]

Wouldn't really make sense if it was set before the movies, why would they be? They added all this new stuff for them not be used? Anyways, I just really hope this is set during or after EoZ. I had a feeling it would be, since they added Pan, guessing they would want to use her, and made the Pilaf Gang young, likely so they won't be so old in the new series, and probably look how they did in DB. If this is set around that time though, I wouldn't mind if they messed with the character designs to make them look younger.

[snaku]

https://mobile.twitter.com/DB_super2015 ... 8137178112

Seems to take place after Ressurection F.

Edit: I'm quite late, ha.

[bleed0range]

I was just reading over the press release again, and it says that "Dragon Ball Super will follow the aftermath of Goku’s fierce battle with Majin Buu", which wouldn't really make sense if it takes place after EoZ, or even after RoF. You wouldn't say the Cell games follows the aftermath of Goku's battle with Vegeta, or the arrival of Buu follows the aftermath of Freeza.

Although the 08 Jump special, BOG and ROF all take place after Buu... I get the impression that none of those stories were very serious threats. The jump special was treated as a forgotten tale of a non-threat, BOG was never really a threat so much as a run-in with an odd character who wasn't a villain. ROF was a threat to Earth/Goku, but not really considering they still had the upper hand.

Really the last real threat was Buu and he was a threat to the entire universe. So in a way, it makes sense to say it follows the last actual threat to the gang.

[SSJ God Gogeta]

I haven't been keeping up with this thread for the past 3 days, has anything new been announced?

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Seems to take place after Ressurection F.

Edit: I'm quite late, ha.

Yeah we discussed that yesterday (two days ago now depending on timezones?) when it was posted. It was definitely supporting evidence for it taking place post-"F", but not completely conclusive because they could be talking in an out of universe sense.

[snaku]

I was just reading over the press release again, and it says that "Dragon Ball Super will follow the aftermath of Goku’s fierce battle with Majin Buu", which wouldn't really make sense if it takes place after EoZ, or even after RoF. You wouldn't say the Cell games follows the aftermath of Goku's battle with Vegeta, or the arrival of Buu follows the aftermath of Freeza.

Although the 08 Jump special, BOG and ROF all take place after Buu... I get the impression that none of those stories were very serious threats. The jump special was treated as a forgotten tale of a non-threat, BOG was never really a threat so much as a run-in with an odd character who wasn't a villain. ROF was a threat to Earth/Goku, but not really considering they still had the upper hand.

Really the last real threat was Buu and he was a threat to the entire universe. So in a way, it makes sense to say it follows the last actual threat to the gang.

It really is fortunate that Beerus took an interest in the Saiyans, without the SSG ceremony and subsequent training Freeza really would have had his revenge. BOG was like the training arc for FnF, only they didn't know about the looming threat.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

BOG and "F" both seem like 2/3 of a new arc. Battle of Gods was the concept introduction which set the new arc in motion (Future Trunks' warning and then training for Gero's robots), Resurrection F was the secondary training session (RoSaT), and we're currently missing the climax (Cell Games or whatever). Hopefully Super covers that, and better than a film can with all the extra time.

[The Doc]

I was just reading over the press release again, and it says that "Dragon Ball Super will follow the aftermath of Goku’s fierce battle with Majin Buu", which wouldn't really make sense if it takes place after EoZ, or even after RoF. You wouldn't say the Cell games follows the aftermath of Goku's battle with Vegeta, or the arrival of Buu follows the aftermath of Freeza.

Although the 08 Jump special, BOG and ROF all take place after Buu... I get the impression that none of those stories were very serious threats. The jump special was treated as a forgotten tale of a non-threat, BOG was never really a threat so much as a run-in with an odd character who wasn't a villain. ROF was a threat to Earth/Goku, but not really considering they still had the upper hand.

Really the last real threat was Buu and he was a threat to the entire universe. So in a way, it makes sense to say it follows the last actual threat to the gang.

The mention of the way the narration of the Jump Special was handled reminded me of how vastly different the narration of Battle of Gods was handled. I recall that special being put into this context of this kind of insignificant event that got lost to time, but did in fact happen post Majin Buu's defeat. The way the director's cut intro of Battle of Gods opens that movie definitely made it feel like this was the beginning of more than one singular movie, it almost felt like it was leading us into a new era of significant events that took place in the Dragon Ball world. Just like the way they gave Kai a new introduction that recapped the events that lead us up to that point, and then opened the series with this whole "new chapter of dragon ball" feeling, that's the way the director's cut of Battle of Gods felt.

So just analyzing the way Toei has been handling the tone of the narrative executions for all these new stories, I definitely feel like that Toei's plan all along could have been to have these two new movies serve as sort of prolog chapters to build us toward Super.

/theory

[GokuRules987]

I really hope we get to see future trunks visit them again. Would be cool to see what happens to his universe and how does he handle buu threat?

[UpFromTheSkies]

Although the 08 Jump special, BOG and ROF all take place after Buu... I get the impression that none of those stories were very serious threats. The jump special was treated as a forgotten tale of a non-threat, BOG was never really a threat so much as a run-in with an odd character who wasn't a villain. ROF was a threat to Earth/Goku, but not really considering they still had the upper hand.

Really the last real threat was Buu and he was a threat to the entire universe. So in a way, it makes sense to say it follows the last actual threat to the gang.

Beerus almost destroyed the Earth, and Freeza did destroy it.

Wouldn't really make sense if it was set before the movies, why would they be? They added all this new stuff for them not be used? Anyways, I just really hope this is set during or after EoZ. I had a feeling it would be, since they added Pan, guessing they would want to use her, and made the Pilaf Gang young, likely so they won't be so old in the new series, and probably look how they did in DB. If this is set around that time though, I wouldn't mind if they messed with the character designs to make them look younger.

Super can cover both time periods. Remember this is going to be a weekly ongoing series, and judging from Masako Nozawa's comments, TOEI is planning for it to go on for as long as possible, so it could start off right after the defeat of Buu, catch up to BoG, recap the movie, bridge the gap between BoG and RoF, recap RoF, then continue on. It would also be really confusing for kids watching Kai that haven't seen the movies for the story to suddenly jump to after RoF, I have a feeling they won't even show EoZ in Kai so the two series flow right into each other.

[Neon Z]

I was just reading over the press release again, and it says that "Dragon Ball Super will follow the aftermath of Goku’s fierce battle with Majin Buu", which wouldn't really make sense if it takes place after EoZ, or even after RoF. You wouldn't say the Cell games follows the aftermath of Goku's battle with Vegeta, or the arrival of Buu follows the aftermath of Freeza.

That specific wording is only used in the English press release. The Japanese ones have only had a vague "after Buu" and also referenced that a villain stronger than "Buu and Freeza" might appear.

[UpFromTheSkies]

I was just reading over the press release again, and it says that "Dragon Ball Super will follow the aftermath of Goku’s fierce battle with Majin Buu", which wouldn't really make sense if it takes place after EoZ, or even after RoF. You wouldn't say the Cell games follows the aftermath of Goku's battle with Vegeta, or the arrival of Buu follows the aftermath of Freeza.

That specific wording is only used in the English press release. The Japanese ones have only had a vague "after Buu" and also referenced that a villain stronger than "Buu and Freeza" might appear.

It still wouldn't make sense to say "after Buu" if it's set after EoZ or even RoF, but maybe it's just a poorly worded press release and it means nothing.

[Marco Polo]

Buu was the last threat in the anime and the other stuff were only in specials or movies. If they want to appeal to the widest audience possible, it makes sense to mention Buu so as not to alienate casual viewers who may have lost touch with the franchise since their teenage years. It's the same reason the seventh episode of Star Wars is officially called Star Wars: The Force Awakens (without "Episode VII").

Besides, if they actually said "after Freeza's return", it would be confusing because he has returned several times.

[UpFromTheSkies]

Buu was the last threat in the anime and the other stuff were only in specials or movies. If they want to appeal to the widest audience possible, it makes sense to mention Buu so as not to alienate casual viewers who may have lost touch with the franchise since their teenage years. It's the same reason the seventh episode of Star Wars is officially called Star Wars: The Force Awakens (without "Episode VII").

Besides, if they actually said "after Freeza's return", it would be confusing because he has returned several times.

If it took place after RoF, I'd imagine they would say that it follows the aftermath of their battle with Golden Freeza. But like I said, it could just be poorly worded and mean nothing at all.

[bleed0range]

Although the 08 Jump special, BOG and ROF all take place after Buu... I get the impression that none of those stories were very serious threats. The jump special was treated as a forgotten tale of a non-threat, BOG was never really a threat so much as a run-in with an odd character who wasn't a villain. ROF was a threat to Earth/Goku, but not really considering they still had the upper hand.

Really the last real threat was Buu and he was a threat to the entire universe. So in a way, it makes sense to say it follows the last actual threat to the gang.

Beerus almost destroyed the Earth, and Freeza did destroy it.

I don't consider Beerus a threat. Sure, he almost destroyed Earth but he was never intending to do so with any malice and he isn't really a bad guy. The universe was not in peril as it was with Buu. You have a point with Freeza, although they just messed around too long. Even abo and cado could have destroyed Earth.

[UpFromTheSkies]

Although the 08 Jump special, BOG and ROF all take place after Buu... I get the impression that none of those stories were very serious threats. The jump special was treated as a forgotten tale of a non-threat, BOG was never really a threat so much as a run-in with an odd character who wasn't a villain. ROF was a threat to Earth/Goku, but not really considering they still had the upper hand.

Really the last real threat was Buu and he was a threat to the entire universe. So in a way, it makes sense to say it follows the last actual threat to the gang.

Beerus almost destroyed the Earth, and Freeza did destroy it.

I don't consider Beerus a threat. Sure, he almost destroyed Earth but he was never intending to do so with any malice and he isn't really a bad guy. The universe was not in peril as it was with Buu. You have a point with Freeza, although they just messed around too long. Even abo and cado could have destroyed Earth.

They messed around with Buu too long also, Goku could have defeated him when he first turned SSJ3, SSJ3 Gotenks could have defeated him, Vegetto could have defeated him, and probably Gohan too if Gotenks hadn't been around, or if he would have been paying more attention. They could have also defeated Cell a lot quicker if Gohan hadn't messed around.

[snaku]

Buu was the last threat in the anime and the other stuff were only in specials or movies. If they want to appeal to the widest audience possible, it makes sense to mention Buu so as not to alienate casual viewers who may have lost touch with the franchise since their teenage years. It's the same reason the seventh episode of Star Wars is officially called Star Wars: The Force Awakens (without "Episode VII").

Besides, if they actually said "after Freeza's return", it would be confusing because he has returned several times.

If it took place after RoF, I'd imagine they would say that it follows the aftermath of their battle with Golden Freeza. But like I said, it could just be poorly worded and mean nothing at all.

Since FnF is still in theaters, perhaps they don't want to spoil the outcome of the film in a press release for those that haven't seen it yet?

[Low Tone G]

Buu was the last threat in the anime and the other stuff were only in specials or movies. If they want to appeal to the widest audience possible, it makes sense to mention Buu so as not to alienate casual viewers who may have lost touch with the franchise since their teenage years. It's the same reason the seventh episode of Star Wars is officially called Star Wars: The Force Awakens (without "Episode VII").

Besides, if they actually said "after Freeza's return", it would be confusing because he has returned several times.

If it took place after RoF, I'd imagine they would say that it follows the aftermath of their battle with Golden Freeza. But like I said, it could just be poorly worded and mean nothing at all.

Since FnF is still in theaters, perhaps they don't want to spoil the outcome of the film in a press release for those that haven't seen it yet?

Most probably!!!

[Lord Beerus]

BOG and "F" both seem like 2/3 of a new arc. Battle of Gods was the concept introduction which set the new arc in motion (Future Trunks' warning and then training for Gero's robots), Resurrection F was the secondary training session (RoSaT), and we're currently missing the climax (Cell Games or whatever). Hopefully Super covers that, and better than a film can with all the extra time.

I never really saw it like that but it really does seem like the case. BOG and ROF have laid down the foundation for epic events to happen in Dragon Ball Super much sooner than later. Now I really want Dragon Ball Super to take place after ROF.