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Re: SSJ God Goku vs Superman Death Battle teased?

Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:10 pm

What was the Superman they used last time?

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Post by ekrolo2 » Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:17 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:What was the Superman they used last time?
The one from 1985-2011 or "Post Crisis" as he's usually called. He's basically the version of Supes everyone under the age of 25 is most familiar with from the comics and the basis for the animated series.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:21 pm

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TheGmGoken wrote:What was the Superman they used last time?
The one from 1985-2011 or "Post Crisis" as he's usually called. He's basically the version of Supes everyone under the age of 25 is most familiar with from the comics and the basis for the animated series.
Oh. I thought they was used their own version which combined elements of eacheach. I'm familiar with the DC timeline Lol.

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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:48 pm

They kind of did, they not only ignored a lot of Post-Crisis stuff but included stuff from some animated movies that isn't canon.
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Post by Bullza » Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:15 pm

That's the problem with these Death Battles, they will include both canon and non canon feats into it which can make it a little inconsistent.

If they do a rematch then they should leave Super Saiyan 4 and GT out of it completely and with Superman just focus on only what the one version of Superman has done.

At this point the DC 52 version has been around long enough for them to maybe just go with that instead. It'd be easier to keep track of what he's done.

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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:31 pm

New 52 is a mess in general. But that's just my opinion.
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Post by dario03 » Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:20 pm

How would you even pick just one Superman? Wouldn't you have to pick just one story line? Which story line would you pick? Superman from 1985-2011 varied greatly in power, even without getting into different universes and what not he seems to vary in power, sometimes explained, sometimes not.

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Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:27 pm

Hey if we can pick multiple Supes then can we have Toei Movies Goku. Kaioken x100 anyone?

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Post by Bullza » Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:02 pm

This reminds me of another problem with the Death Battle.

They were obviously using material not in the manga to determine his power. Besides SSJ4 they got his durability based on Android 16's bomb which was not in the manga.

Yet they determined his strength based on what was said in the manga with the 40 tons thing but didn't take into account another scene that was filler which was when Goku was fighting Buu in Super Saiyan form and he pushed apart a mountain which would have weighed millions of tons easy.

It was a weird way to mix and match it.

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Post by godku23 » Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:15 am

To be honest, if they do make a rematch, they stand to make A LOT of money because of it.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:58 am

godku23 wrote:To be honest, if they do make a rematch, they stand to make A LOT of money because of it.
Since when does ScrewAttack's Death Battle make money? :eh:

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Post by Doctor. » Tue Jun 09, 2015 12:54 pm

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godku23 wrote:To be honest, if they do make a rematch, they stand to make A LOT of money because of it.
Since when does ScrewAttack's Death Battle make money? :eh:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but ScrewAttack is partnered with Youtube. Mo' views = mo' money, and Goku vs Superman would bring in a lot of views.

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Post by ekrolo2 » Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:56 pm

Bullza wrote:That's the problem with these Death Battles, they will include both canon and non canon feats into it which can make it a little inconsistent.

If they do a rematch then they should leave Super Saiyan 4 and GT out of it completely and with Superman just focus on only what the one version of Superman has done.

At this point the DC 52 version has been around long enough for them to maybe just go with that instead. It'd be easier to keep track of what he's done.
Is it really fair to compare a version who hasn't even been around for even half a decade to Goku's who's been continuously going on for about 30 years now? Personally them picking Post Crisis who's been around basically around the same time as Goku was the perfect option.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Tue Jun 09, 2015 2:04 pm

Doctor. wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:
godku23 wrote:To be honest, if they do make a rematch, they stand to make A LOT of money because of it.
Since when does ScrewAttack's Death Battle make money? :eh:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but ScrewAttack is partnered with Youtube. Mo' views = mo' money, and Goku vs Superman would bring in a lot of views.
I thought you only made money on YouTube through advertisements.

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Post by TheGmGoken » Tue Jun 09, 2015 2:50 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but ScrewAttack is partnered with Youtube. Mo' views = mo' money, and Goku vs Superman would bring in a lot of views.
I thought you only made money on YouTube through advertisements.[/quote]
It's both. More views means more ads. More views means more money..

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Post by SansrivaaL » Tue Jun 09, 2015 3:08 pm

Oh God no more... I'm tired of seeing Goku get his arse kicked from a guy that shows his underwear to everyone including villains. Like some of us here there is no way in hell Goku will ever be able to beat superman. Thunder emperor (God of creation) vs superman would be a better match!

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Post by Bullza » Tue Jun 09, 2015 3:11 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
Bullza wrote:That's the problem with these Death Battles, they will include both canon and non canon feats into it which can make it a little inconsistent.

If they do a rematch then they should leave Super Saiyan 4 and GT out of it completely and with Superman just focus on only what the one version of Superman has done.

At this point the DC 52 version has been around long enough for them to maybe just go with that instead. It'd be easier to keep track of what he's done.
Is it really fair to compare a version who hasn't even been around for even half a decade to Goku's who's been continuously going on for about 30 years now? Personally them picking Post Crisis who's been around basically around the same time as Goku was the perfect option.
I wouldn't say it's not fair. After all this is the Superman that we have now, even though he hasn't been around that long there's still a lot of material to work with between Action Comics, Superman, Justice League etc.

Likewise with Goku we have the SSJ God and SSGSS now and all the GT stuff which is a thing of the past should be left out.

Modern day Goku vs Modern day Superman.

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Post by goku the krump dancer » Tue Jun 09, 2015 6:43 pm

Bullza wrote:This reminds me of another problem with the Death Battle.

They were obviously using material not in the manga to determine his power. Besides SSJ4 they got his durability based on Android 16's bomb which was not in the manga.

Yet they determined his strength based on what was said in the manga with the 40 tons thing but didn't take into account another scene that was filler which was when Goku was fighting Buu in Super Saiyan form and he pushed apart a mountain which would have weighed millions of tons easy.

It was a weird way to mix and match it.
Well taking the 40,000 mark at face value multiplying that by fifty gives us 2 million and seeing as though Goku was an SSJ2 at first in the anime his maximum raw out put would be 4 million tons.. So there isn't really too much wrong with what they said.
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Post by Bullza » Tue Jun 09, 2015 6:56 pm

Where'd 40,000 come from? It was 40.

They had SSJ4 Goku at only being able to lift 160,000 tons (without Ki), even though in the anime when he was drastically weaker he was able to push apart a mountain.

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Post by Mewzard » Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:02 pm

Bullza wrote:Where'd 40,000 come from? It was 40.

They had SSJ4 Goku at only being able to lift 160,000 tons (without Ki), even though in the anime when he was drastically weaker he was able to push apart a mountain.
They only used the form as a multiplier for Goku. Other than that, they kept with canon feats for the most part (SSJ4 was the only thing GT used)
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