Kid Buu's Maximum Power

[supercat]

While Kid Buu's potential is extremely difficult to determine given what little information we have regarding the matter, we do have subtle hints that his potential could be enormous. The prime implication being, his ability to pick up attacks and abilities with pretty much the blink of an eye. Of course, there is that possibility that this ability is only applicable towards learning new techniques and adding onto his long list of attacks, while not necessarily being an asset that would aid in boosting his power. With that being said, given how powerful he was, it wouldn't be surprising to me if he did have the ability to train and obtain unfathomable levels of power.

Also, unlike Uub, he is not restricted to a human body. Rather, he is a being capable of surviving even when blasted into almost nothing. In those regards his surviving capabilities are unrivaled. Let's also not forget that his physiology also seems to yield him the privilege of being able to survive in space.

Where do you all think he can end up in terms of power, if he decided to employ proper training?

Let's try to refrain from posts pertaining to his lack of intelligence, or how his crazy personality would prevent him from even understanding the concept of training. We're talking strictly based on potential power and what he could physically obtain, should he be given the right opportunity.

Where do you all think Mr. Buu would stand in terms of power, if he decided to start training in hopes of obtaining a power that would be able to offer a gesture of help to the other Z-Fighters?

[Hitiro]

Kid Buu's potential is extremely difficult to determine given what little information we have regarding the matter, but we do have subtle hints that his potential could be enormous. The prime implication being, his ability to pick up attacks and abilities with pretty much the blink of an eye. Of course, there is that possibility that this ability is only applicable towards learning new techniques adding onto his long list of attacks, and not necessarily something that would aid in boosting his power. With that being said, given how powerful he was, it wouldn't be surprising to me if he did have the ability to train and obtain unfathomable levels of power.

Also, unlike Uub, he is not restricted to a human body. Rather, he is a being capable of surviving even when blasted into almost nothing. in those regards his surviving capabilities are unrivaled. Let's also not forget that his physiology also seems to yield him the privilege of being able to survive in space.

Where do you all think he can end up in terms of power, if he decided to employ proper training?

Let's try to refrain from posts pertaining to his lack of intelligence, or how his crazy personality would prevent him from even understanding the concept of training. We're talking strictly based on potential power and what he could physically obtain, should he be given the right opportunity.

Where do you all think Mr. Buu would stand in terms of power, if he decided to start training in hopes of obtaining a power that would be able to offer a gesture of help to the other Z-Fighters?

I would think that, being born to a high battle power, Oob would actually have much more potential than Pure Boo. Like Freeza was. If Pure Boo's power is natural like Freeza's was then Pure Boo could easily surpass Whis, I would think.

[supercat]

Kid Buu's potential is extremely difficult to determine given what little information we have regarding the matter, but we do have subtle hints that his potential could be enormous. The prime implication being, his ability to pick up attacks and abilities with pretty much the blink of an eye. Of course, there is that possibility that this ability is only applicable towards learning new techniques adding onto his long list of attacks, and not necessarily something that would aid in boosting his power. With that being said, given how powerful he was, it wouldn't be surprising to me if he did have the ability to train and obtain unfathomable levels of power.

Also, unlike Uub, he is not restricted to a human body. Rather, he is a being capable of surviving even when blasted into almost nothing. in those regards his surviving capabilities are unrivaled. Let's also not forget that his physiology also seems to yield him the privilege of being able to survive in space.

Where do you all think he can end up in terms of power, if he decided to employ proper training?

Let's try to refrain from posts pertaining to his lack of intelligence, or how his crazy personality would prevent him from even understanding the concept of training. We're talking strictly based on potential power and what he could physically obtain, should he be given the right opportunity.

Where do you all think Mr. Buu would stand in terms of power, if he decided to start training in hopes of obtaining a power that would be able to offer a gesture of help to the other Z-Fighters?

I would think that, being born to a high battle power, Oob would actually have much more potential than Pure Boo. Like Freeza was. If Pure Boo's power is natural like Freeza's was then Pure Boo could easily surpass Whis, I would think.

Sorry, I slightly edited some of the errors in the sentencing structuring from my original post. Trying to post as quickly as possible comes with an ample amount of mistakes!

Anyway, do you think that Kid Buu was born with a battle power that he was wielding against SSJ3 Goku? If that was power that he had right from the beginning, I would agree that he would easily surpass Whis.

In regards to Uub, despite the amazing potential he may have inherited, I always thought that Kid Buu would have an edge over Uub in terms of potential, simply because he seems to have a crazy physiology that is probably extremely capable in a multitude of ways.

[supercat]

Does anyone else have anything to say about this topic? I'm actually really interested in hearing other opinions regarding this matter.

[Hitiro]

Sorry, I slightly edited some of the errors in the sentencing structuring from my original post. Trying to post as quickly as possible comes with an ample amount of mistakes!

Anyway, do you think that Kid Buu was born with a battle power that he was wielding against SSJ3 Goku? If that was power that he had right from the beginning, I would agree that he would easily surpass Whis.

In regards to Uub, despite the amazing potential he may have inherited, I always thought that Kid Buu would have an edge over Uub in terms of potential, simply because he seems to have a crazy physiology that is probably extremely capable in a multitude of ways.

Isn't there a statement saying Pure Boo's power was accumulated from all the negative energy or something like that? If that is the case I would think Pure Boo wasn't actually born with his battle power but got it over time.

[supercat]

Sorry, I slightly edited some of the errors in the sentencing structuring from my original post. Trying to post as quickly as possible comes with an ample amount of mistakes!

Anyway, do you think that Kid Buu was born with a battle power that he was wielding against SSJ3 Goku? If that was power that he had right from the beginning, I would agree that he would easily surpass Whis.

In regards to Uub, despite the amazing potential he may have inherited, I always thought that Kid Buu would have an edge over Uub in terms of potential, simply because he seems to have a crazy physiology that is probably extremely capable in a multitude of ways.

Isn't there a statement saying Pure Boo's power was accumulated from all the negative energy or something like that? If that is the case I would think Pure Boo wasn't actually born with his battle power but got it over time.

Well that's certainly very interesting. Do you recall if it was stated that the negative energy actually increased his power or if it only contributed towards the growth of his evil / destructive nature? If it was in reference to power, then that could potentially mean with enough ongoing negative energy accumulating, his power would reach unfathomable levels. Regardless, I still think he must have started off with a good chunk of power either way. It seems unlikely that he was born weak.

[Kamiccolo9]

Does anyone else have anything to say about this topic? I'm actually really interested in hearing other opinions regarding this matter.

There isn't really anything to say about these kind of topics. "Maximum power" is something that is entirely determined by the story. It can be changed whenever Toriyama or Toei decide to do it. Goku's maximum power was Super Saiyan 3 before Super Saiyan God was created. It was Super Saiyan 2 before that. And Super Saiyan before that.

Trying to pin down a character's "maximum power," especially one that we'll likely never see again, is an ultimately fruitless endeavor, because the phrase, as it pertains to Dragon Ball, ultimately has no meaning.

[Hitiro]

Sorry, I slightly edited some of the errors in the sentencing structuring from my original post. Trying to post as quickly as possible comes with an ample amount of mistakes!

Anyway, do you think that Kid Buu was born with a battle power that he was wielding against SSJ3 Goku? If that was power that he had right from the beginning, I would agree that he would easily surpass Whis.

In regards to Uub, despite the amazing potential he may have inherited, I always thought that Kid Buu would have an edge over Uub in terms of potential, simply because he seems to have a crazy physiology that is probably extremely capable in a multitude of ways.

Isn't there a statement saying Pure Boo's power was accumulated from all the negative energy or something like that? If that is the case I would think Pure Boo wasn't actually born with his battle power but got it over time.

Well that's certainly very interesting. Do you recall if it was stated that the negative energy actually increased his power or if it only contributed towards the growth of his evil / destructive nature? If it was in reference to power, then that could potentially mean with enough ongoing negative energy accumulating, his power would reach unfathomable levels. Regardless, I still think he must have started off with a good chunk of power either way. It seems unlikely that he was born weak.

How did Bibidi make Majin Buu? What process was there, what were Buu’s ingredients, etc…
Though in the manga Kaiōshin said that Bibidi made him, the truth is that one called “Buu” was not actually created by Bididi, but has existed since time immemorial. He cycled between rampages and long hibernation. During numerous iterations of this cycle, he absorbed the evil elements of mankind, becoming steadily more violent. Bibidi merely knew the means of calling Buu from out of his long slumber. Since the current Buu is a slightly different life-form due to the changes brought about when the evil Buu was expelled, it’s not known whether he’ll still go into long hibernation.

After re-reading it, it actually doesn't say anything about his power increasing. It just says he became more violent. So this is actually my bad. I guess it could be construed that his power increased from the evil elements of mankind but there is nothing stated for certain.

[supercat]

I guess it's still pretty much up in the air on how he gained his power then. The impression I got from that context is that, it only managed to make him more violent. I don't find it that far-fetched to assume that he was born with that insanely high battle power he was leveraging to cause all that destruction. However, it could also be speculated that the process of causing chaos itself almost served as training, and has somewhat contributed towards his power growth.

How powerful do you see Mr. Buu getting if he decided to participate in some strenuous training sessions?

[Hitiro]

I guess it's still pretty much up in the air on how he gained his power then. The impression I got from that context is that, it only managed to make him more violent. I don't find it that far-fetched to assume that he was born with that insanely high battle power he was leveraging to cause all that destruction. However, it could also be speculated that the process of causing chaos itself almost served as training, and has somewhat contributed towards his power growth.

How powerful do you see Mr. Buu getting if he decided to participate in some strenuous training sessions?

I would imagine it would depend on if he is considered a new being rather than actually being Dai Kaioshin. If he is more of a reincarnation I would assume he has lots of potential to grow. If he is merely a personification of the Dai Kaioshin he might not have anything else to improve as the Dai Kaioshin possibly met his potential during the time he was alive. Though it's possible he didn't and Mr. Boo has retained that hidden potential.

[supercat]

I guess it's still pretty much up in the air on how he gained his power then. The impression I got from that context is that, it only managed to make him more violent. I don't find it that far-fetched to assume that he was born with that insanely high battle power he was leveraging to cause all that destruction. However, it could also be speculated that the process of causing chaos itself almost served as training, and has somewhat contributed towards his power growth.

How powerful do you see Mr. Buu getting if he decided to participate in some strenuous training sessions?

I would imagine it would depend on if he is considered a new being rather than actually being Dai Kaioshin. If he is more of a reincarnation I would assume he has lots of potential to grow. If he is merely a personification of the Dai Kaioshin he might not have anything else to improve as the Dai Kaioshin possibly met his potential during the time he was alive. Though it's possible he didn't and Mr. Boo has retained that hidden potential.

I actually think that the Kaioshin have pretty good potential hidden within. I'm not sure if they ever trained, but assuming the power they were implied to have (capable of one-shotting Frieza), was the power they were born with, that leaves a massive amount of room for growth. If the guy they can one-shot can become worlds above them just by training, imagine how powerful they can get, should they decide on employing some intense training themselves. On the contrary, we should take into consideration that the whole thing about Frieza being a prodigy is what may have enabled him to reach the levels that he did.

As for Mr. Buu, I was asking from the standpoint of him basically being somewhat of a counterpart to Kid Buu. My speculation is that his potential would be pretty akin to that of Kid Buu's. What are your thoughts?

[Truhan]

If you want my thoughts, then I have a prediction of Kid Buu's power that makes him equal to Super Buu, with both having the potential to get stronger - http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... 78#p928064 - and I'd leave it at that, because of the implications of considering something else. The problem with Fat Buu training, is that perhaps Gotenks would be the only one to match him (without using SSJ3, off course), and that's 30 minutes for each fusion attempt.

[Hitiro]

If you want my thoughts, then I have a prediction of Kid Buu's power that makes him equal to Super Buu, with both having the potential to get stronger - http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... 78#p928064 - and I'd leave it at that, because of the implications of considering something else. The problem with Fat Buu training, is that perhaps Gotenks would be the only one to match him (without using SSJ3, off course), and that's 30 minutes for each fusion attempt.

Boo wouldn't necessarily need to spar with someone if he has never trained before. He would receive huge benefits from doing regular training, for his level of power anyway. Just like how Freeza could increase his strength to ludicrous amounts. If you think about it. Goku and Vegeta were already at the limits of training could provide. Vegeta states that Goku has an innate talent that far surpasses his own. So it doesn't matter that Vegeta had trained harder. Because Goku's innate talent and potential made up for him training less. So with Freeza, or any Boo, if they had never worked to earn the power they already had then they are going to receive huge benefits from doing the same training Goku and Vegeta are doing. Meanwhile the only way Goku and Vegeta can actually get stronger is by improving their form(and by form I mean martial arts) or by sparring with someone stronger than them because Saiyan's have the ability to catch up to stronger opponents. They more than likely gain little to nothing from their old training regimes. Which is why their power increases tailed off at the end of the manga.

[Kid Buu]

I beat up Vegeta.

Vegeta killed Super Buu.

I > Super Buu in feats.

[Zephyr]

I beat up Vegeta.

Vegeta killed Super Buu.

I > Super Buu in feats.

Using this (http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... =1&t=30492) thread as a guide, we can conclude that your battle power is 3475. Nappa's battle power was roughly ~5000, right? Nappa > Kid Buu.

What follows is: Nappa > Kid Buu > Vegeta > Super Buu

Or in short terms: Nappa > Super Buu. I just tested it in Budokai 2, and it seems to be confirmed.

Discuss.

[OWmyDragonBallz]

The manga states that Kid boo destroyed hundreds of planets. Didn't the anime have a filler scene of him destroying a galaxy? Haven't seen the show in a while.

[Hitiro]

The manga states that Kid boo destroyed hundreds of planets. Didn't the anime have a filler scene of him destroying a galaxy? Haven't seen the show in a while.

Don't quote me on this but I think it's been said that the universe is the way it is because of Boo destroying hundreds of planets. He is the reason why the universe is smaller than what it once was. Though I could be wrong. I'm sure someone will correct me if I am.

[supercat]

Given the massive amount of power Kid Buu was likely born with, if he decided to allocate even a small portion of his time towards training, I could see him reaching unfathomable levels. Without having to rely on Zenkais, he probably wouldn't even need to train to the point of a serious injury, and then have to count on recovering from it afterwards. For this reason, even training alone doing basic things like trying to power up past their maximum would likely be extremely beneficial for any form of Buu.

Also, if Kid Buu made that much of an impact on the universe, it's even more surprising that Frieza seemingly caught Beerus' attention more. Although I did mention in the past that it was likely due to Frieza's ongoing and more consistent patterns of destruction vs Buu's long periods of hibernation, this was also without knowing the extent of Buu's destruction.

[Kamiccolo9]

I beat up Vegeta.

Vegeta killed Super Buu.

I > Super Buu in feats.

Using this (http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... =1&t=30492) thread as a guide, we can conclude that your battle power is 3475. Nappa's battle power was roughly ~5000, right? Nappa > Kid Buu.

What follows is: Nappa > Kid Buu > Vegeta > Super Buu

Or in short terms: Nappa > Super Buu. I just tested it in Budokai 2, and it seems to be confirmed.

Discuss.

Freeza Soldier #2 has a power level of 42 which = Super Freeza Soldier God 3. He has also achieved Nirvana, and become one with the universe.

[dbzfan7]

I beat up Vegeta.

Vegeta killed Super Buu.

I > Super Buu in feats.

Using this (http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... =1&t=30492) thread as a guide, we can conclude that your battle power is 3475. Nappa's battle power was roughly ~5000, right? Nappa > Kid Buu.

What follows is: Nappa > Kid Buu > Vegeta > Super Buu

Or in short terms: Nappa > Super Buu. I just tested it in Budokai 2, and it seems to be confirmed.

Discuss.

Freeza Soldier #2 has a power level of 42 which = Super Freeza Soldier God 3. He has also achieved Nirvana, and become one with the universe.

This thread has just now become awesome.