"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:38 pm

TheRed259 wrote:Simuldub?
https://youtu.be/l7HjELZvZnI?t=477
He did mention there were "major" titles planned to be simulcasted in the same month that DBS debuts, and Dragon Ball is as major as an anime title as you can get. But I don't wanna get my hopes up.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by DBZ_Lee » Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:45 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
TheRed259 wrote:Simuldub?
https://youtu.be/l7HjELZvZnI?t=477
He did mention there were "major" titles planned to be simulcasted in the same month that DBS debuts, and Dragon Ball is as major as an anime title as you can get. But I don't wanna get my hopes up.
I agree. I really don't want to get my hopes up, either. It was interesting what Fukunaga said about the Broadcast Dubs, and that he can't discuss anything about these titles.
I wonder if the interviewer wanted to ask about Super? shame he didn't.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:50 pm

DBZ_Lee wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:
TheRed259 wrote:Simuldub?
https://youtu.be/l7HjELZvZnI?t=477
He did mention there were "major" titles planned to be simulcasted in the same month that DBS debuts, and Dragon Ball is as major as an anime title as you can get. But I don't wanna get my hopes up.
I agree. I really don't want to get my hopes up, either. It was interesting what Fukunaga said about the Broadcast Dubs, and that he can't discuss anything about these titles.
I wonder if the interviewer wanted to ask about Super? shame he didn't.
Even if the interviewer asked Fukunaga about Super, he most likely would have declined to comment on that.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by SaiyanZ » Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:09 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Yeah, directing is definitely a major element. Nobody comes to film and television for the story, they come for the manner in which the story is told to them. If one only cared about the story they'd be satisfied with merely reading a Wikipedia article. Storytelling is directing, storyboarding, animation, backgrounds, coloring, sound effects, music and voice performances, too, not merely dialogue. What information is given when and how plays a big part in creating a sense of excitement, tension and engagement in the viewer. Shokugeki no Souma is one of those series that heavily benefits from its stellar directing. Episode #7 has one of the best storyboards of the series. A simple hallway discussion is suddenly multi-dimensional in scope merely because of where the camera is placed. One sees not only the hallway and students within it but also the courtyard outside and the group of students also having a conversation. The inner wall isn't simply framed as a straight horizontal line, either, it's diagonal.

Dragon Ball never survived based on its story, it survived based on its storytelling. Series Director Chioka Kimitoshi has a record for interesting storytelling which will, with any luck, be highlighted in Dragon Ball Super.
Sorry, I should have been more specific. I agree that directing is an important part of making an anime (and other things like a film or game), but the point I was trying to get at was that how a scene is framed or shot is and should not be more important than the core content itself. By core content, I mean things like character growth and etc. I also heavily disagree with the 2nd statement, while I do think Toriyama's art was important to telling a pretty simple story, things like Piccolo's death in the Saiyan arc or Goku learning about his Saiyan heritage were good plot points imo, they were things that you could read in a summary and say "that was good". It seemed to me that people are determining the quality of the anime based on the director without giving credence to things like story, which isn't the right thing to do if you ask me. Then again, we have little information of the anime, so its not like I can blame you :lol:
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by chizzielamer » Wed Jun 10, 2015 9:02 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:
Ushabtis wrote:
fadeddreams5 wrote:I'm sure you can see the difference between the tone in the Android saga, the History of Trunks special, and BoG, right?

And how something like this creates a certain mood:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC4X2zNmWu0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewzi45xuuzU

While this creates the opposite:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hKlJcp_f0o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xlx1nEGc7k
>evil Vegeta killing namekian village
explains itself
>emo Future Trunks in his own post apocalyptic flashback of Killer Androids
yet the Andriods in present time line are cruising about in a car in the mountains chillin shopping for cloths with one even falling in love with Nature
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>The Bingo scene
that was supposed to be funny and show how far Vegeta has come as a good-hearted person
>Whis getting to slapped Beerus out cold with one hit
Beerus was running around like an idiot, if that was a serious fight it wouldn't have ended in one hit. It was supposed to be funny.
I'm not criticizing the scenes for what they are or saying they're good or bad. I'm just saying they set a certain mood. This is true for the whole movie the minute you see Beerus and he starts making kawaii faces. The Namek saga, on the other hand, is generally serious, even with the Ginyu Force. There's always that sense of tension where you fear the characters will run into Freeza's men or Vegeta. BoG fails to create that even with the threat of Beerus because of its lightheartedness and, another example, Beerus break-dancing and Whis enjoying food.
Sorry for digging up this kinda old (relatively) post but I dont think its fair to compare an anime series to a movie. Though I do admit that BoG and even RoF struggles to built any huge suspense or tension, making a movie with so many characters and giving them each a chance to shine and ALSO building up tension between the protagonists (in both movies ie Vegeta and Goku) and the antagonist requires a significant amount of time and a hefty amount of balance.

Lets say the directors decide on more tension, then the side characters like Kuririn, Roshi , Tien would all have a cut in screen time and then the complaining will begin.

On a sidenote, if we really compare the series to movies, i'm currently re-watching the original DB series and I feel that the tone in the movies are more reminiscence of the original DB series than in DBZ.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:50 pm

In terms of fair screen time, I think having a series will definitely lend itself better to that than a movie simply because there's more time to spare.
You won't have to wrap everything up on four to six episodes, you can create tension and actually sustain it.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Daisetsu » Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:58 pm

Absolutely no truth, whatsoever. Their source just pick a random number and ran with it.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Ushabtis » Thu Jun 11, 2015 12:10 am

Chuquita wrote:In terms of fair screen time, I think having a series will definitely lend itself better to that than a movie simply because there's more time to spare.
You won't have to wrap everything up on four to six episodes, you can create tension and actually sustain it.
i too hope (and expect) time to be spent on the other characters getting a chance to shine.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sangofe » Thu Jun 11, 2015 12:13 am

No, but I wouldn't be surprised if Toei tries to keep it running as long as they get good numbers and sales from it.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Thu Jun 11, 2015 12:49 am

Ushabtis wrote:
Chuquita wrote:In terms of fair screen time, I think having a series will definitely lend itself better to that than a movie simply because there's more time to spare.
You won't have to wrap everything up on four to six episodes, you can create tension and actually sustain it.
i too hope (and expect) time to be spent on the other characters getting a chance to shine.
I really think they're all going to have chances to shine in Super thanks to the weekly format. One of the many reasons I'm happy we're getting a series.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:03 am

sangofe wrote:No, but I wouldn't be surprised if Toei tries to keep it running as long as they get good numbers and sales from it.
I feel certain that this is exactly what TOEI is planning, otherwise I don't think Masako Nozawa would have said she hopes it goes on for a long time and is as big as its predecessor.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by fadeddreams5 » Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:03 am

I wish there were details on the story and setting already. ;__;
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Rocketman » Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:41 am

Chuquita wrote:I really think they're all going to have chances to shine in Super thanks to the weekly format. One of the many reasons I'm happy we're getting a series.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:58 am

Just saw this on Twitter; Super's the only summer show left that hasn't revealed its synopsis or core staff yet? Is this true?
https://twitter.com/Yuyucow/status/608635882548117504
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by chizzielamer » Thu Jun 11, 2015 2:09 am

fadeddreams5 wrote:I wish there were details on the story and setting already. ;__;

I feel you *hugs*

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by JulieYBM » Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:00 am

Chuquita wrote:Just saw this on Twitter; Super's the only summer show left that hasn't revealed its synopsis or core staff yet? Is this true?
https://twitter.com/Yuyucow/status/608635882548117504
Yeah, it's the only summer series we basically know nothing about.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:04 am

JulieYBM wrote:
Chuquita wrote:Just saw this on Twitter; Super's the only summer show left that hasn't revealed its synopsis or core staff yet? Is this true?
https://twitter.com/Yuyucow/status/608635882548117504
Yeah, it's the only summer series we basically know nothing about.
That's, very curious. Especially considering it's a franchise with popularity abroad. I'd really like to know what the behind-the-scenes story on this is the way we eventually learned the behind-the-scenes story on BOG (and partly on F).
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by JulieYBM » Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:09 am

Chuquita wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:
Chuquita wrote:Just saw this on Twitter; Super's the only summer show left that hasn't revealed its synopsis or core staff yet? Is this true?
https://twitter.com/Yuyucow/status/608635882548117504
Yeah, it's the only summer series we basically know nothing about.
That's, very curious. Especially considering it's a franchise with popularity abroad. I'd really like to know what the behind-the-scenes story on this is the way we eventually learned the behind-the-scenes story on BOG (and partly on F).
This is why I figure the production was only just recently green-lit. The only way this is going to come together is if Toei Animation pours a massive amount of manpower into each episode. We'll see, though, I guess.
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