Examples of pseudo-science in the series?

[Doctor.]

Probably the most famous case is when, in the Saiyan arc, Vegeta explains to Goku how the Oozaru transformation works. By blabbing on about Bruits Waves and Zeno units, it all tries to make it seem legitimate, but I wonder how many people actually thought it was interesting? Well, even if I prefer the more lazy excuse of "it's just magic, don't question it", it's not the point either way, are there any more cases of pseudo-science or techno-babble at play in the series?

[Kamiccolo9]

I'd consider the whole timeline system in DB to fall under this.

[Polyphase Avatron]

I remember in the dub at least they had Bulma trying to explain how the androids worked which sounded pretty sketchy to me.

[Doctor.]

I'd consider the whole timeline system in DB to fall under this.

Really? I don't think they really went to in-depth with it, though. Just kinda like "Here's a machine, you can travel in time with it", without bothering to go into specifics.

Though I guess the alternate timeline thing is a bit iffy.

[Hellspawn28]

Toriyama is writing a series for children, so I would imagine that he does want to go into depth with it so that kids won't be confused or that science is not Toriyama's best subject in school growing up.

[Kamiccolo9]

I'd consider the whole timeline system in DB to fall under this.

Really? I don't think they really went to in-depth with it, though. Just kinda like "Here's a machine, you can travel in time with it", without bothering to go into specifics.

Though I guess the alternate timeline thing is a bit iffy.

Nah, I meant the part about how going back in time doesn't actually change the future; it creates a parallel timeline and blah blah blah sciencey time stuff.

[hyperbeing1]

Personally i do wish that dbz dabbled into a more scientific side. I find that Bulma would have been perfect for trying to rationalize how the z fighters use ki and do the stuff they do. I believe that bulma trying getting annoyed with the whole gods and magic would have been very funny. Anyway to answer the question i do remember Vegeta trying to explain the giant monkey forms, i remember in the anime bulma briefly discussing 16 and the schematics of the androids, and that's about all i remember. Though i wish they gave a thorough explanation of the scouters and how they work.

[hyperbeing1]

I'd consider the whole timeline system in DB to fall under this.

Really? I don't think they really went to in-depth with it, though. Just kinda like "Here's a machine, you can travel in time with it", without bothering to go into specifics.

Though I guess the alternate timeline thing is a bit iffy.

Nah, I meant the part about how going back in time doesn't actually change the future; it creates a parallel timeline and blah blah blah sciencey time stuff.

i believe this exists in some other shows and comics as well with doctor who, marvel, and dc. I personally liked the whole tfs explaining this thing.

[Kamiccolo9]

i believe this exists in some other shows and comics as well with doctor who, marvel, and dc. I personally liked the whole tfs explaining this thing.

Marvel does it both ways. Not sure about the others.

[hyperbeing1]

i believe this exists in some other shows and comics as well with doctor who, marvel, and dc. I personally liked the whole tfs explaining this thing.

Marvel does it both ways. Not sure about the others.

oh right i believe this depends on who is doing the time travelling and how . I remember it being stated but once that kang the conquer is one of the few beings who can alter the timeline without splitting it into a different universe.
Dc universe does this as well mostly and so does doctor who though doctor who has admitted cases of fixed points in time that cannot be changed without a risk of destroying time itself.

[Polyphase Avatron]

i believe this exists in some other shows and comics as well with doctor who, marvel, and dc. I personally liked the whole tfs explaining this thing.

Marvel does it both ways. Not sure about the others.

oh right i believe this depends on who is doing the time travelling and how . I remember it being stated but once that kang the conquer is one of the few beings who can alter the timeline without splitting it into a different universe.
Dc universe does this as well mostly and so does doctor who though doctor who has admitted cases of fixed points in time that cannot be changed without a risk of destroying time itself.

Although that actually has more to do with the resources available to the time traveler, for just the Doctor and his old TARDIS it's dangerous but for a Transcendental Being or a Time Lord civilization at their height it's much easier.

[hyperbeing1]

Although that actually has more to do with the resources available to the time traveler, for just the Doctor and his old TARDIS it's dangerous but for a Transcendental Being or a Time Lord civilization at their height it's much easier.

Actually the Doctor has directly stated that he cannot and will not mess with Fixed points in time as it risks destruction of the universe or multiverse. We see this in one episode i know it dealt with river and amy and rory. On the side note Time Lords hate paradoxes on a great level and i am hearing that the time lords race is back is that true ( i know this is way off topic and you do not have to answer so if you can respond to this in pm or something)

[Polyphase Avatron]

He has messed with them, even in the new series though (The Water of Mars, etc.) Problem is that without more power and control than he has, it is usually too dangerous.

[soulnova]

You know... now that Sorbet was killed perhaps Bulma can reverse engineer his ring... heh.

[vegetaslegacy15]

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yes they are back. they got brought back in season 7. And season 8 was the introduction of the 1st regeneration of the doctor's new regeneration cycle!!

on topic:

I would say most of Dragonball has pseudo-science in it. Such as the capsules they use in the show that can shrink thinks down to fit inside them. Also everything everyone else has mentioned like blutz waves and zenos and Bulma's explanation of how the androids work.

[soulnova]

You know... back before DBZ aired here in Mexico there were plenty of rumors about the story... I heard one rumor that I completely bought and, to this day, I wish had been true. I had heard that Bulma would find a way to create special capsules that could store ki powers for later use. Like... Goku would fire a Kamehameha into a capsule and it would absorb that energy. They would then just throw it and release that power. Bulma was supposed to have only a few of them (they difficult to make and required special materials) so they were meant to be used by the "weak" characters only in a emergency. I freaking loved the idea and I totally saw Bulma managing to develop something like that.

[Deathbringer]

I don't think that the parallel universe in Dr Who was actually that accurate to the genuine theory of parallel universes, technically the Doctor should be creating a parallel universe everytime he travels through time but instead they land in london one day like "this is a parallel universe because...the timeline is different...even though I change time all the time"

oh yeah this is a dragon ball forum!

The timeline for Trunks makes sense, in fact that whole storyline opened up my eyes to what parallel universe theory actually is, the anime even shows that all 3 versions of Cell were killed off (Trunks and Krillin killed the one in the main timeline, Gohan killed the one that travelled to the main timeline from a seperate timeline and Trunks went back home to kill the Cell from his timeline) Blutz waves and all that rubbish was just some random terminology.

I think DBZA explained it the best, just remember Gohan's line of "whenever you travel back in time you're actually travelling to a parallel universe" and then dwell on that thought and think about what it means until eventually you can no longer understand the Terminator movies...

[soulnova]

I don't think that the parallel universe in Dr Who was actually that accurate to the genuine theory of parallel universes, technically the Doctor should be creating a parallel universe everytime he travels through time but instead they land in london one day like "this is a parallel universe because...the timeline is different...even though I change time all the time"

oh yeah this is a dragon ball forum!

The timeline for Trunks makes sense, in fact that whole storyline opened up my eyes to what parallel universe theory actually is, the anime even shows that all 3 versions of Cell were killed off (Trunks and Krillin killed the one in the main timeline, Gohan killed the one that travelled to the main timeline from a seperate timeline and Trunks went back home to kill the Cell from his timeline) Blutz waves and all that rubbish was just some random terminology.

I think DBZA explained it the best, just remember Gohan's line of "whenever you travel back in time you're actually travelling to a parallel universe" and then dwell on that thought and think about what it means until eventually you can no longer understand the Terminator movies...

I loved the alternate time line theory. This is the best explanation about how it works on DBZ that I have encountered: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh58fPJtfR4