If GT Ended With the Baby Arc ...

[ABED]

Honestly, there's no need to retier them. What they should have done was split up the Z-fighters, so each gets a shot at one. Weaker characters would face the weaker dragons. We'd actually get screen time with characters that are not ****ing Goku and Pan.

I agree with this, though I'm not nearly as seemingly angry.

[Wibbs]

Honestly, there's no need to retier them. What they should have done was split up the Z-fighters, so each gets a shot at one. Weaker characters would face the weaker dragons. We'd actually get screen time with characters that are not ****ing Goku and Pan.

I'm hate to sell them short but I don't think Toei would have been capable of giving the non-saiyans some screentime, nevermind entire portions of some episodes. Besides that's what the GT stands for anyway "Goku Time".

[ABED]

Honestly, there's no need to retier them. What they should have done was split up the Z-fighters, so each gets a shot at one. Weaker characters would face the weaker dragons. We'd actually get screen time with characters that are not ****ing Goku and Pan.

I'm hate to sell them short but I don't think Toei would have been capable of giving the non-saiyans some screentime, nevermind entire portions of some episodes. Besides that's what the GT stands for anyway "Goku Time".

Do you really think they are incapable of having an episode where Piccolo defeats one of the dragons by himself? There was a filler episode towards the end of DB where Yamcha, Kuririn, Tenshinhan, and Chaozu stopped lava from destroying a village.

[Wibbs]

Honestly, there's no need to retier them. What they should have done was split up the Z-fighters, so each gets a shot at one. Weaker characters would face the weaker dragons. We'd actually get screen time with characters that are not ****ing Goku and Pan.

I'm hate to sell them short but I don't think Toei would have been capable of giving the non-saiyans some screentime, nevermind entire portions of some episodes. Besides that's what the GT stands for anyway "Goku Time".

Do you really think they are incapable of having an episode where Piccolo defeats one of the dragons by himself? There was a filler episode towards the end of DB where Yamcha, Kuririn, Tenshinhan, and Chaozu stopped lava from destroying a village.

Sorry bud, I've only read DragonBall I've never seen the show the whole way through. Allthough in my defence they had plenty of opportunities to have episodes based on the side characters they just didn't bother. Maybe Toei has changed, got better writers and so on. But back then, no, I don't think they had the capacity to write something along those lines. Otherwise they might have done it in the Super 17 arc where there were plenty of villains the weaker characters could have taken on.

[Flame Dragon]

So 20 Episodes of horrible, godawful villain of the week Black Star DB Hunt, and 20 Episodes of an average arc with a bad execution.
Wow, if it really ended here then GT would be considered the worst anime of all time!

[Lord Beerus]

So 20 Episodes of horrible, godawful villain of the week Black Star DB Hunt, and 20 Episodes of an average arc with a bad execution.
Wow, if it really ended here then GT would be considered the worst anime of all time!

I think you're overexaggerating. GT would have been remembered as lackluster if it ended at that point but not the worst anime of all time.

[ABED]

Allthough in my defence they had plenty of opportunities to have episodes based on the side characters they just didn't bother.

They did, like the one I mentioned.

godawful villain of the week

why do so many have an issue with villain/freak/case/monster of the week?

[Wibbs]

Allthough in my defence they had plenty of opportunities to have episodes based on the side characters they just didn't bother.

They did, like the one I mentioned.

You're right and that's fair enough, but what I meant was that when they had a series all to themselves with no manga to abide by they chose to not bother. Although that example you gave me did remind me of that one episode where they had to fight the illusion Saiyans, so obviously Toei had some ideas on the burner for them. I'm not sure to be honest, maybe they just didn't think it would make the Dragons look as cool if it wasn't someone strong like Goku beating them. Yes I am aware of how lame the first few Dragons were.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

Honestly, there's no need to retier them. What they should have done was split up the Z-fighters, so each gets a shot at one. Weaker characters would face the weaker dragons. We'd actually get screen time with characters that are not ****ing Goku and Pan.

There shouldnt be weak dragons to begin with. Considering:
A) The states of what they represented, they were inbetween the very fabric of space & time with their power.
B) The last arc in that tim gap should have had them all be gods, far above anything seen prior. There is no way they should have all been that weak up until Eis. If I were to distribute how they should have been fought, it should be:
- Pan, Goten, Trunks (Gotenks) vs 1. (Weakest)
- Vegeta & Gohan vs 2 (Sub Strongest)
- Majuub & Piccolo vs. 2 (Sub Strongest)
- Goku Solo vs. Sub Final. (Strongest)
- Everyone vs. Omega. (Fusion Of All 7.)

[SSJ Human]

If it ended with the Baby Arc then we wouldn't have gotten Super Saiyan 4 Vegeta and Gogeta. Hell if it hadn't ended with the Shadow Dragon Saga, we may have gotten Super Saiyan 4 Gohan and Gotenks.