The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Lord Beerus]

Piccolo (post King Kai training) vs Nail

Nail absolutely pwns Piccolo

[supercat]

Daizenshuu 3 states that Gregory has considerable power and flies at incredible speeds and attacks while glowing like a firefly. In addition, the movie pamphlet for Dragon Ball Z: The Tree of Might states that Gregory has a BP of 1,100 and Bubble has a BP of 1,000 and considering that can handle x10 the gravity of Earth, their BP are arguably higher that what the pamphlet stated.

Long story, short... Gregory and Bubbles kick Krillin's ass.

Yes, I could definitely see them physically overwhelming Krillin with sheer strength and speed. Let's make it a bit more fair..

Bubbles vs Goku and Piccolo (Beginning of Z) - No Makankosappo

King Kai's pet may have a higher battle power than the duo at that point in time, but could he tank their powerful ki blasts and overcome their collaborative efforts?

It'll be like USSJ Trunks vs Perfect Cell. Neither Piccolo or Goku can handle 10x gravity at this point, and would not be able to catch Bubble on King Kai's planet. Imagine on Earth. Bubbles won't need to hurt them since they will just exhaust themselves.

Oh, I was actually referring to the battle taking place on Earth. It's kind of funny picturing Bubbles making monkey noises, charging towards Goku and Piccolo, and blitzing them to the point of severely knocking their air out.

[ZombieVito]

Piccolo (post King Kai training) vs Nail

Piccolo one shots Nail.

[supercat]

SSJ Goku (Cell Games) vs Shisami
Perfect Cell (against Goku) vs Shisami

[Lord Beerus]

SSJ Goku (Cell Games) vs Shisami
Perfect Cell (against Goku) vs Shisami

- Goku breaks off Shisami's horns, turns em sideways, and sticks em straight up his candy ass.
- Perfect Cell checks Shisami's candy ass into the Smackdown Hotel.

Apologies for the style of answers. I went on a bit of an WWF Attitude Era binge on YouTube.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Piccolo (post King Kai training) vs Nail

Piccolo leaves Nail in the same condition Freeza did. Nail absolutely praised Piccolo's power. He didn't say Piccolo had unbelievable power for a Namek. Just that he had unbelievable power. I can't see Piccolo being anywhere below Nail.

[supercat]

SSJ Goku (Cell Games) vs Shisami
Perfect Cell (against Goku) vs Shisami

- Goku breaks off Shisami's horns, turns em sideways, and sticks em straight up his candy ass.
- Perfect Cell checks Shisami's candy ass into the Smackdown Hotel.

Apologies for the style of answers. I went on a bit of an WWF Attitude Era binge on YouTube.

No worries!

If Shisami was on par with Piccolo, there's a good chance that he could do pretty well against SSJ Goku (Cell Games) / Perfect Cell (against Goku) in my opinion. The way I see it, Piccolo was already pretty close to Cell Jr. tier during the Cell Games, so with additional training throughout the years, he should at the very least be at Cell Jr. tier, if not higher.

Therefore, if Shisami = Piccolo (Cell Jr. tier or higher), then he should be able to cause a notable amount of damage to SSJ Goku (Cell Games) / Perfect Cell (against Goku).

Let me know what you all have to say!

[Lord Beerus]

SSJ Goku (Cell Games) vs Shisami
Perfect Cell (against Goku) vs Shisami

- Goku breaks off Shisami's horns, turns em sideways, and sticks em straight up his candy ass.
- Perfect Cell checks Shisami's candy ass into the Smackdown Hotel.

Apologies for the style of answers. I went on a bit of an WWF Attitude Era binge on YouTube.

No worries!

If Shisami was on par with Piccolo, there's a good chance that he could do pretty well against SSJ Goku (Cell Games) / Perfect Cell (against Goku) in my opinion. The way I see it, Piccolo was already pretty close to Cell Jr. tier during the Cell Games, so with additional training throughout the years, he should at the very least be at Cell Jr. tier, if not higher.
Therefore, if Shisami = Piccolo (Cell Jr. tier or higher), then he should be able to cause a notable amount of damage to SSJ Goku (Cell Games) / Perfect Cell (against Goku).

Let me know what you all have to say!

On a serious note, I don't think Piccolo ever reached Cell Jr. tier in Z. I think the strongest he reached was SSJ 2nd Grade/ASSJ Vegeta level. I mean, Goku did sense after Piccolo left the ROSAT, that his strength greatly increased but that he was still no match for Cell. And Piccolo was among on the Z-Fighters to be amazed at how strong Goku was when he powered up, so that would place him quite few levels below SSJ Goku (Cell Games) tier. But when you take into consideration the context of how strong Super Namek Piccolo was before he went into the ROSAT and how strong SSJ 2nd Grade/ASSJ Vegeta was, that's quite a big jump in power for Piccolo, respectively.

[Chou_Gohan]

Hyper Rildo vs. Kid Boo with SSjin 3 Goku absorbed

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Hyper Rildo vs. Kid Boo with SSjin 3 Goku absorbed

SS3 Goku: 24
Pure Buu: 23
-SS3 Goku absorbed: 47

SS Gotenks pre: 25
Base Gotenks post: 35
SS Gotenks post: 1,750
SS3 Gotenks post: 14,000

Ultimate Gohan: 16,000

Super Buu: 12,000
-Gohan absorbed: 28,000

Base Rild: 30,000
-Hyper Mega Rild: 50,000

So even with bare minimum gaps... yeah...

[supercat]

On a serious note, I don't think Piccolo ever reached Cell Jr. tier in Z. I think the strongest he reached was SSJ 2nd Grade/ASSJ Vegeta level. I mean, Goku did sense after Piccolo left the ROSAT, that his strength greatly increased but that he was still no match for Cell. And Piccolo was among on the Z-Fighters to be amazed at how strong Goku was when he powered up, so that would place him quite few levels below SSJ Goku (Cell Games) tier. But when you take into consideration the context of how strong Super Namek Piccolo was before he went into the ROSAT and how strong SSJ 2nd Grade/ASSJ Vegeta was, that's quite a big jump in power for Piccolo, respectively.

While it certainly is a possibility that Piccolo may not have been at the level of a Cell Jr. by the time the Cell Games took place, I still find it very plausible that he was at the very least above 2nd Grade SSJ Vegeta. Despite the Namekian likely putting all of his trust in Goku / Gohan, prior to the Buu arc, he isn't exactly the type of warrior that would sit around while the world is being saved around him. Even after realizing that he may not be a prominent contribution, it seems very probable that he would at least walk into a major event like the Cell Games with more power than Vegeta had when the Saiyan got trashed against Cell. Unlike some of the other weaker fighters, it's likely in Piccolo's character to at least make sure his strength would be somewhat relevant. Therefore, if he was only at 2nd Grade SSJ Vegeta tier, he probably would have squeezed in more training, as he already knew how far that caliber of power would take him against Cell. Throw that in with years of training, and I could see him definitely rivaling a Cell Jr. or even being able to take one down by FnF.

As for Cell Games Piccolo, I place him somewhere between Grade 2 SSJ and SSJ Goku (against Cell), but having him sit somewhere closer to the former seems a lot more reasonable. I feel like Goku would have been able to trash a Cell Jr. one on one at that point had he been at full strength. Although extremely close in power, I feel like the miniature fighters weren't quite on par with their dad. I have each of them somewhere between Perfect Cell (against Vegeta) and Perfect Cell (against Goku), although likely much closer to the latter.

Hyper Rildo vs. Kid Boo with SSjin 3 Goku absorbed

It really depends on how much power Kid Buu would gain from absorbing SSJ3 Goku. Assuming this is SSJ3 Goku (Buu arc),it could really go either way. I have Final Form Rild slightly above Buuhan or somewhere around that tier, and Second Form Rild a little higher than Super Buu (no one absorbed). I think the added power of SSJ3 Goku would put Kid Buu around Super Buu's realm of power if not substantially higher. Therefore Buu likely crushes Rild, but I don't think it would be an easy fight for him.

Another hypothetical battle:

Final Form Janemba vs Second Form Rild (no special abilities for each fighter)
Ultimate Gohan vs Second Form Rild

[Lord Beerus]

Hyper Rildo vs. Kid Boo with SSjin 3 Goku absorbed

Imagine Brock Lesnar during his UFC days taking on a 5 year old. That is how this fight pans out in Hyper Rildo's favour.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Final Form Janemba vs Second Form Rild (no special abilities for each fighter)
Ultimate Gohan vs Second Form Rild

1. Janemba gets slaughtered. He was beat by SS1 Gogeta, who I have much weaker than Gohan-Buu, who Rild's 1st form is comparable to. Base Rild stomps.
2. Base Rild one-shots. GT Gohan could put up a fight though.

[Sora Saiyan]

Another hypothetical battle:

Final Form Janemba vs Second Form Rild (no special abilities for each fighter)
Ultimate Gohan vs Second Form Rild

Rild wins.

I don't have much of an idea on the outcome of this one, I'd put them quite close. Maybe Gohan, just slightly.

[supercat]

Frieza vs Dabura (equal power, no spit)
Frieza vs Kid Buu (equal power, unlimited stamina for both)

[LightBing]

Freeza vs Dabura (equal power, no spit)
Freeza vs Kid Buu (equal power, unlimited stamina for both)

Freeza wins the first one, higher durability and good techniques. Even if he got arrogant, at equal power it would hard for Dabura to damage him enough, that Freeza wouldn't recover and get focused to end the fight.

Kid Buu win the second, his body is ridiculous plus unpredictability and capability to learn techniques after seeing them once. He's a genius and Freeza isn't good enough to counter it.

[fadeddreams5]

Freeza vs Dabura (equal power, no spit)
Freeza vs Kid Buu (equal power, unlimited stamina for both)

Dabura wins. He just seems more competent in combat. Freeza is a battle moron.

Kid Buu obliterates. He's a battle genius who can copy any of Freeza's moves after seeing them once. Plus... his body.

[supercat]

Paikuhan lost to a weaker opponent due to poor strategy. Frieza has also been crushed by opponents below his realm of power simply because he failed to leverage the right battle tactics.

Frieza vs Fat Buu (equal power, unlimited stamina for both)
Frieza vs Paikuhan (equal power, unlimited stamina for both)
Paikuhan vs Final Form Janemba (no special abilities, equal power, unlimited stamina for both)

[Lord Beerus]

Another hypothetical battle:

Final Form Janemba vs Second Form Rild (no special abilities for each fighter)
Ultimate Gohan vs Second Form Rild

- Janemba loses horribly
- Rild crushes Gohan

Freeza vs Dabura (equal power, no spit)
Freeza vs Kid Buu (equal power, unlimited stamina for both)

- Freeza wins by virtue of being more durable and having more deadly techniques
- Kid Buu wins because of his hax regeneration and being able to copy any technique he sees

Freeza vs Fat Buu (equal power, unlimited stamina for both)
Freeza vs Paikuhan (equal power, unlimited stamina for both)
Paikuhan vs Final Form Janemba (no special abilities, equal power, unlimited stamina for both)

- Same reason for why Kid Buu would win; hax regeneration and being able to copy any technique he sees
- Pikkon is a much smarter fighter than Freeza is. He takes this.
- Janemba ain't nothing without his special reality warping abilities. Pikkon kicks his ass.

[supercat]

Paikuhan didn't exactly display strategic prowess when he gave in to his desire to use his signature move an already beaten down opponent, who he likely could have taken down with a more practical approach. With that said, he probably is smarter than Frieza when it comes to incorporating the right tactics.

Goku vs Piccolo (equal power, unlimited stamina for both) - we have two fighting geniuses, both equipped with the adept ability to manipulate their opponent's weaknesses through either their unrivaled observation skills, or by leveraging their opportunistic tendencies and exploiting every possible chance for securing victory.