Would you have preferred Adult Goku in GT?

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

I see that a lot of people are opposed to Goku being a kid again in GT. Personally, I don't mind it much, and it's obviously needed for the first story arc to happen. Would you have liked GT better if Goku was an adult? How would you make the first story arc work then? Just get rid of it entirely?

Personally, I would've liked Goku being a kid up until the Baby arc, and then becoming an adult again from the Super No.17 arc until the end.

[Doctor.]

Why is Goku being a kid needed for the first story arc to happen? Literally any other wish could have worked. Yes, I would have preferred an adult Goku but only if he's surrounded by the right cast. If he's still with Trunks and Pan, being adult or kid wouldn't save it still.

[Chuquita]

Adult Gokû would've instantly made GT more watchable for me. Adult Gokû with tail would've been one of the best things about that series (that last scene in the last ED is a huge tease!!).

If you want to do comical adult-turned-into-kid, you gotta pick a character who's already on the more mature side to facilitate comedy. Choose Piccolo! Choose Gohan! For maximum reaction faces, choose Vegeta!
Gokû's already got a youthful personality, it makes it just not that funny when he's picked.

[LuckyCat]

Yes, if for no other reason than Goku as a kid had been explored thoroughly in the material with a good story. Making him a kid again just seemed to be played for gags a few times in GT without it really affecting his character or the plot.

Choose Piccolo! Choose Gohan! For maximum reaction faces, choose Vegeta!
Gokû's already got a youthful personality, it makes it just not that funny when he's picked.

Exactly! Why try to redo an already good story when there are so many other choices that haven't been explored?

[GreatSaiyaman3Gou]

I love GT, even though I have still not seen all of it, I'm still at the beginning of Super 17 arc, but I think Goku would have been overpowered if left an adult. I mean, to an extent he is still overpowered, but the fact that he is overpowered in this series is being compared to other kids. He's overpowered for a kid.

If he was still an adult, what reason would he have for going to leave Earth to get the Dragon Balls? I think he wouldn't have really had a reason to go, and the series would change to be Trunks, Goten and somebody else, most likely Pan because her personality wouldn't have changed. I would have loved to see a Trunks and Goten/Gotenks-centric series, but it may not be very interesting if they always fuse and Pan would just be on the sidelines trying to join in but not really being able to.

Goku may have been necessary for Pan to develop as a character, but I could be wrong, the team may not have been balanced enough. I'm not sure if what I'm typing will make sense to anyone else, or it may be my ramblings, lol.

[TheGreatness25]

I know why Goku was turned back into a kid, but I never really liked it. It would be fine if he turned back into an adult after that first arc though. It's like they couldn't make up their minds which Goku they wanted, hence why Super Saiyan 4 was an adult and then he spent time as Super Saiyan 4 when he didn't have to, which makes me feel like they wanted adult Goku in some parts.

[supercat]

I think Goku becoming a kid again was a pretty neat idea that complemented some of his earlier adventures in the series. I also would have liked to see him become an adult somewhere between the Baby arc and Super 17 arc. Although I did enjoy the Power Pole and Flying Nimbus reference, I feel the rematch against two of his most iconic enemies would have been better suited for his adult self.

[FoolsGil]

It depends. A part of the problem wasn't that Goku was just a kid, it's that the powerlevels in that series was too ridiculous, and even more ridiculous on Goku.

Turn Goku into a kid, reduce his power level to a point he can only be depended on a deus ex machina once every ten episodes, and turn him back to normal after the arc is up, sure, I can take that. Make him a kid beyond that arc? You're pushing it, but if he still has limitations on his child body that is seperate from his SSJ4 body, it's something I can tolerate.

[ABED]

While maybe it's just the choice of words, but Goku isn't a kid, he has a child's body, but his adult brain.

[ParkerAL]

Turn Goku into a kid, reduce his power level to a point he can only be depended on a deus ex machina once every ten episodes, and turn him back to normal after the arc is up, sure, I can take that. Make him a kid beyond that arc? You're pushing it, but if he still has limitations on his child body that is seperate from his SSJ4 body, it's something I can tolerate.

I agree 100 percent. Turning Goku into a child was an interesting idea, and I absolutely loved how he shrugged it off like it was no big deal. But Toei didn't go far enough with the concept, or really use it to its full potential.

While maybe it's just the choice of words, but Goku isn't a kid, he has a child's body, but his adult brain.

Some would argue that Goku's never had an "adult brain," but I get what you mean.

Still, if Shenlong was asked to turn Goku into a kid again, wouldn't he do it both physically and mentally? After all, the human brain goes through profound developmental and hormonal changes during puberty. Reversing that process would logically impact a person's mind and ability to function cognitively as an adult. I guess it depends on the exact wording of Pilaf's wish in the Japanese dub.

[supercat]

Although the series seemed to portray inflated battle powers right from the get-go, by showing Base Goku holding his own against Uub, I felt that the depiction of power really got out of hand when Goku made a remark about Rildo being above some form of Majin Buu. While I do believe he was comparing his new enemy to Kid Buu (for reasons I've explained multiple times in the past), I feel the privilege of being above any form of a powerful force like Majin Buu should have been perhaps reserved for Rildo's final form. This would have made power scaling a lot easier, and seemingly more plausible.

It would have also made a lot more sense if Goku took his possessed sons on as an SSJ. Having him casually trash two SSJs in mere base form was a bit extreme in my opinion. I can understand Goten suffering that kind of defeat, but it just seems a bit unreasonable that Base Goku could utterly humiliate SSJ (or SSJ2) Gohan, who had apparently kept up with his training.

[ABED]

Goku has his childhood body, but he still has his memories and experiences

[ParkerAL]

Goku has his childhood body, but he still has his memories and experiences

Naturally, that's true, but if the physical structure of a person's brain reverts to a prepubescent state, it's going to have an acute effect on how he or she thinks and behaves. Memories and experience can only do so much when the brain is physically altered, which is why brain damage can completely change how a person's mind functions. Of course, Goku being Goku, I doubt de-aging his brain would have impacted who he was to great extent.

[Lord Beerus]

I would have much prefered Adult Goku in GT. But if they were insistent on turning Goku into a kid, echoing the thoughts of FoolsGil, reduce his power, limit his abilities and then permanently change him back into an adult after not too long.

[fadeddreams5]

- Goku keeps adult body.
- Uub, Pan, and Bra (all re-written) go to space instead.
- Instead of Vegeta, Goku gets possessed by Bebi.
- Student must defeat teacher.

That's the structure I would've preferred. However, if those characters are portrayed as they currently are in GT, it'd be even more shitty than it already is.

[ABED]

- Goku keeps adult body.
- Uub, Pan, and Bra (all re-written) go to space instead.
- Instead of Vegeta, Goku gets possessed by Bebi.
- Student must defeat teacher.

That's the structure I would've preferred. However, if those characters are portrayed as they currently are in GT, it'd be even more shitty than it already is.

No, Goku has the remain the main character. Even if I agreed that he shouldn't be, Uub? Really? Pan makes sense, but why Bra and Uub of all people? What about characters like Goten and Trunks? The reason Trunks was chosen is because you need a tech person, and he filled that role.

And Uub wouldn't be defeating his teacher. Baby would only be using Goku's body.

[fadeddreams5]

- Goku keeps adult body.
- Uub, Pan, and Bra (all re-written) go to space instead.
- Instead of Vegeta, Goku gets possessed by Bebi.
- Student must defeat teacher.

That's the structure I would've preferred. However, if those characters are portrayed as they currently are in GT, it'd be even more shitty than it already is.

No, Goku has the remain the main character. Even if I agreed that he shouldn't be, Uub? Really? Pan makes sense, but why Bra and Uub of all people? What about characters like Goten and Trunks? The reason Trunks was chosen is because you need a tech person, and he filled that role.

And Uub wouldn't be defeating his teacher. Baby would only be using Goku's body.

"That's the structure I would've preferred."

The Goku most people want isn't even the main character of GT for the majority of the time. Hence why this topic was created in the first place. Goku in a kid's body is not the same as him in an adult body (unless you want to be technical about it).

Secondly, why does Goku have to remain the main character? DBZ ended with Goku flying off to train this stranger. The Kanzenban ending throws some symbolism in there that indicates the start of a new generation.

GT is an entirely new series, not DBZ, so they could have successfully (or not) gone that route. Regardless, the path they chose was a flop among fans. As for a tech person, that's why I chose Bra. Like I said, the characters would have to be re-written for it to work the way I see it cause their portrayals in GT are absolutely horrendous.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

I personally never minded Trunks going into space instead of Uub. It's not like Trunks was really developed much in Z, just a plot device really.

[supercat]

I would have much prefered Adult Goku in GT. But if they were insistent on turning Goku into a kid, echoing the thoughts of FoolsGil, reduce his power, limit his abilities and then permanently change him back into an adult after not too long.

I concur with all of the above.

Should all of those things have taken place, Rild being above Buu wouldn't have had any place to logically fit in. Assuming Goku would still fight Rild as a kid (with reduced battle power), it wouldn't have made much sense for him to be able to rival a Majin Buu tier opponent.

[Hellspawn28]

The idea of Goku becoming a kid again is a good idea, but poorly done in my opinion. The idea over stay it's welcome after Bebi and he should have been a adult again afterwards. Given that Dragon Ball has a young target audience in Japan, Toei most likely want Goku to be a kid for the rest of the show. I always believe that they ask Prounga to restore Goku back to a adult, but undoing the magic of the Black Star Dragon Balls exceeds the creators power.