"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by FutureGohanSSJ2 » Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:31 pm

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FutureGohanSSJ2 wrote:So...what if the new "thing" Figurarts is hinting at:

Could in fact be SSGSS 2? Just look at the hair...
That figure has already been revealed. It's battle damaged Goku from the Freeza battle.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Avery » Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:32 pm

SSJ3 is kinda...overdone. Raditz hair and no eyebrows. His forehead area also looked weird. Honestly I think that eh...unique forehead suits Namekians better. Gotenks looked kinda sorta cute though.
Still, I don't think he could have come up a better idea for the hair. Make it stick even further? He had to make grow longer...
And fans are really pissed off because Vegeta never achieved it? Ew. Imagine how stupid he'd have looked. (I'll pretend I never saw his Raging Blast 2 artwork)
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Doctor. » Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:32 pm

I highly doubt there are gonna be further transformations. Only because Toei and Toriyama seemingly want base and SS to be Goku's most iconic looks and SSG & SSGSS fix that.

Could be wrong though, merch sales always speak louder.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by FutureGohanSSJ2 » Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:37 pm

Doctor. wrote:I highly doubt there are gonna be further transformations. Only because Toei and Toriyama seemingly want base and SS to be Goku's most iconic looks and SSG & SSGSS fix that.

Could be wrong though, merch sales always speak louder.
Honestly? There's going to be 100 episodes. Most of which we can assume will be taking place after FnF. I doubt SSGSS is as strong as Goku can get, nor will be strong enough to take on God of Destruction Numero Uno.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Doctor. » Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:38 pm

FutureGohanSSJ2 wrote:
Doctor. wrote:I highly doubt there are gonna be further transformations. Only because Toei and Toriyama seemingly want base and SS to be Goku's most iconic looks and SSG & SSGSS fix that.

Could be wrong though, merch sales always speak louder.
Honestly? There's going to be 100 episodes. Most of which we can assume will be taking place after FnF. I doubt SSGSS is as strong as Goku can get, nor will be strong enough to take on God of Destruction Numero Uno.
If Super is going to retell BoG and F you can cut out a bunch of episodes already, like 20 or so.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sintzu » Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:38 pm

Doctor. wrote:Could be wrong though, merch sales always speak louder.
Ssj3 is still being given to characters in heroes which means it's making $$$ so don't be surprised if we see it used in the 1st arc of S.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by FutureGohanSSJ2 » Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:41 pm

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FutureGohanSSJ2 wrote:
Doctor. wrote:I highly doubt there are gonna be further transformations. Only because Toei and Toriyama seemingly want base and SS to be Goku's most iconic looks and SSG & SSGSS fix that.

Could be wrong though, merch sales always speak louder.
Honestly? There's going to be 100 episodes. Most of which we can assume will be taking place after FnF. I doubt SSGSS is as strong as Goku can get, nor will be strong enough to take on God of Destruction Numero Uno.
If Super is going to retell BoG and F you can cut out a bunch of episodes already, like 20 or so.
I have no idea why it would. That would make 0 sense.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Doctor. » Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:45 pm

It makes complete sense. It fleshes out F and BoG a lot more and allows for a smoother transition between the two time periods, it allows for a "recap" of the two movies for people who haven't seen it and it'd be different enough, since it'd be a new story, not to bore the people who have seen them.

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Post by TRL » Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:52 pm

Calling it. 12 dragonballs. One in each multiverse. That would at least give them a reason to visit each one. The reason why they need to resort to this? Female whis is counteracting any time change whis makes to fix up a death. Cuz... she's evil.

I would still like the 9 ball to be a red harring though. Multiverse balls kinda destroys the legend of dragonballs being a namek only thing and isn't that more original than dragonballs on different planets. And we all know how that turned out..

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:58 pm

I don't remember who, but didn't someone theorize about a set in each universe during parallel world guessing? That the number would equal that universe's number?
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Post by FortuneSSJ » Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:01 pm

I was just making some researches here and found out a more fleshed out reason why Super unfortunately won't go past EOZ.
— The “Dragon Ball” kanzenban have brought in new readers, and I think that as fans it’s only natural that they’d want to see a new “Dragon Ball Z” title. What would you think about making a new anime work about once a year or so?

Toriyama: Oh, I’d like to see that.

Nakatsuru: But by the final chapter, Goku had gotten pretty old. And even after that he was the main character for the anime-original “Dragon Ball GT”. If we’re going to be making stories left and right here, maybe we should rewind time a bit and make them stories set sometime in the past.

Toriyama: I think so too. Instead of continuing the story further and further into the future, it’d be better to do a separate episode style of story development where you go back in time and go “this sort of enemy was here, and this sort of story”. Just say “it wasn’t in the original work, but this sort of story happened”. Maybe that would be better
Toriyama can still chance his mind, but seeing how a whole new series is taking place before EOZ, seems like no. At least, we could get a EOZ movie. :(
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by ArchedThunder » Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:05 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:I was just making some researches here and found out a more fleshed out reason why Super unfortunately won't go past EOZ.
— The “Dragon Ball” kanzenban have brought in new readers, and I think that as fans it’s only natural that they’d want to see a new “Dragon Ball Z” title. What would you think about making a new anime work about once a year or so?

Toriyama: Oh, I’d like to see that.

Nakatsuru: But by the final chapter, Goku had gotten pretty old. And even after that he was the main character for the anime-original “Dragon Ball GT”. If we’re going to be making stories left and right here, maybe we should rewind time a bit and make them stories set sometime in the past.

Toriyama: I think so too. Instead of continuing the story further and further into the future, it’d be better to do a separate episode style of story development where you go back in time and go “this sort of enemy was here, and this sort of story”. Just say “it wasn’t in the original work, but this sort of story happened”. Maybe that would be better
Toriyama can still chance his mind, but seeing how a whole new series is taking place before EOZ, seems like no. At least, we could get a EOZ movie. :(
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I feel like becoming a god is a great way to fix that. Just say that when Goku and Vegeta became gods they stopped aging.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by TRL » Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:08 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:I was just making some researches here and found out a more fleshed out reason why Super unfortunately won't go past EOZ.
— The “Dragon Ball” kanzenban have brought in new readers, and I think that as fans it’s only natural that they’d want to see a new “Dragon Ball Z” title. What would you think about making a new anime work about once a year or so?

Toriyama: Oh, I’d like to see that.

Nakatsuru: But by the final chapter, Goku had gotten pretty old. And even after that he was the main character for the anime-original “Dragon Ball GT”. If we’re going to be making stories left and right here, maybe we should rewind time a bit and make them stories set sometime in the past.

Toriyama: I think so too. Instead of continuing the story further and further into the future, it’d be better to do a separate episode style of story development where you go back in time and go “this sort of enemy was here, and this sort of story”. Just say “it wasn’t in the original work, but this sort of story happened”. Maybe that would be better
Toriyama can still chance his mind, but seeing how a whole new series is taking place before EOZ, seems like no. At least, we could get a EOZ movie. :(
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I remember that interview. Wasn't that referencing the JSAT special he might have been working on at the time. Or was it even before that?
So right now he's way beyond just thinking up one story that also happened between the buu saga and the end. I think there's a good chance the story will just inevitably lead him up to and past EoZ. The story dynamic, definitely in Toriyama's writing, just takes on a life of it's own.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Captain Space » Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:09 pm

Chuquita wrote:I don't remember who, but didn't someone theorize about a set in each universe during parallel world guessing? That the number would equal that universe's number?
Oh that is interesting. Universe 7...yeah, if there was a reason all along...(or if there was now retroactively a reason all along, rather XD)
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Post by soulnova » Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:10 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:was just making some researches here and found out a more fleshed out reason why Super unfortunately won't go past EOZ.
I refuse to accept it.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Doctor. » Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:15 pm

It still bugs me that Mr. Satan keeps getting credited for the defeat of Boo, but... they wished for everyone to forget about Boo...

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Post by shadd21 » Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:17 pm

Is Fat!Beerus being a villian? I recall reading somewhere that he will show up after ROF to cause trouble.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by fadeddreams5 » Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:24 pm

Re: SSJ3's design

I loved the appearance of SSJ3. In fact, when people asked me who my favorite DBZ character was as a kid, I would answer, "SSJ3 Goku!" I spent years wanting a SSJ3 Goku action figure as a child. It was like a dream to find and own one. I was absolutely OBSESSED with the form.

That hasn't changed; I still think it looks amazingly cool. THAT SAID, I only liked the thought of Goku having it; I wanted SSJ3 to be Goku's thing because every SSJ3 in the series looks way too damn similar. So seeing SSJ3 Gotenks turned me off, and what they've done in Heroes is fucking retarded.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Ushabtis » Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:31 pm

Doctor. wrote:I highly doubt there are gonna be further transformations. Only because Toei and Toriyama seemingly want base and SS to be Goku's most iconic looks and SSG & SSGSS fix that.
hmm Knowing characters like Gohan, he might pull out a new Super Saiyan form out of his rear.
TRL wrote:Calling it. 12 dragonballs. One in each multiverse. That would at least give them a reason to visit each one.
I could see this happening, sounds actually pretty cool. Makes me wonder just how strong those puppies would be? and wonder what the dragon will/would look like. (always liked the red dragon from black star balls.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by FutureGohanSSJ2 » Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:32 pm

Doctor. wrote:It still bugs me that Mr. Satan keeps getting credited for the defeat of Boo, but... they wished for everyone to forget about Boo...
Actually, apparently it was never even stated in the manga.

http://2.p.mpcdn.net/19781/312000/11.jpg

Literally the next page after they reunited with everyone on the Lookout.
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