Pick One Canon Movie Villain

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Re: Pick One Canon Movie Villain

Post by Hugo Boss » Mon May 18, 2015 9:25 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:Dr. Uiro existed long before Dr. Gero was most likely born. So the idea of the two being related won't work. I doubt Dr. Gero knows that he exist or is it possible that he is consider to be a urban legend which is why Dr. Gero never look into his studies.
For that matter I would change Dr. Uiro's age to match that of Dr. Gero, but about 10 years younger.

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Re: Pick One Canon Movie Villain

Post by Low Tone G » Mon May 18, 2015 11:32 am

Cooler would make the most sense to me, but Hildegarn can also play. Maybe Turles too.
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Re: Pick One Canon Movie Villain

Post by FoolsGil » Mon May 18, 2015 5:44 pm

If Wrath of the Dragon was changed to have Hildegarn as a summon that lives within Hoi, I would want Hoi to be a canon villain.

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Re: Pick One Canon Movie Villain

Post by Captain Sauza » Tue May 19, 2015 4:08 pm

Cooler.

I wish he was what Toriyama designed first and made to be the main villain of the Namek Saga.
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Re: Pick One Canon Movie Villain

Post by MarCas92 » Tue May 19, 2015 4:28 pm

Dr. Wheelo. I think Movie 2 is SUPER underrated. I like the idea of a villain who isn't strong but uses traps and others to do his bidding. He obviously has his robot suit as a last resort, but he was definitely the smartest of all the movie villains.

His plan I just LOVE. Apart from Tullece, I think he is the only villain with an interesting evil plan. Even if he managed to get Goku's body, I don't think he'd be satisfied. I just feel there is so much potential to a character like that. He could team up with Gero and...ok I'm just fanboy rambling now. But yeah, Wheelo gets my vote.
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Re: Pick One Canon Movie Villain

Post by Zephyr » Tue May 19, 2015 5:20 pm

Garlic Jr. I like the little bits his existence adds to Kami/Piccolo's backstory.

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Re: Pick One Canon Movie Villain

Post by soulnova » Tue May 19, 2015 5:28 pm

As many others have mentioned, Cooler could be canon quite easily, but he's not my favorite.

Janemba, he's strong enough to be a threat at least up to BoG. He's "magical" so they could say he's actually as strong as a SSjG. I actually like him a lot, specially when he was fighting with his sword.

Broly - :shifty: His leaner super saiyan form... Dayum. :wink: If he doesn't buff up and completely looses his mind in the process it would be a perfect choice for a mini saga.
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Re: Pick One Canon Movie Villain

Post by TGCF1203 » Fri Jun 19, 2015 7:07 am

Wow...thats rough :shock:

Personally, in my eyes, all villians could be interesting for the canon timeline, but with either minor, or VERY different changes. I won't do Tullece , Lord Slug, and Androids 13-15 yet, because I'm having a hard time how could they fit into the canon.I'll Maybe (or not XP) post something for them later

Garlic Jr.- Nothing major. He already has a filler saga dedicated to him, and his movie could fit somewhat well into the canon (before Raditz came). He's like a better more serious Pilaf, and his minions had cool designs.

Dr. Wheelo- An rather interesting villian for DBZ. They cyborg scientist before it was cool. The movie was, in my opinion, VERY awesome, but in order for it to fit the canon, I would have to cut out Bulma, Gohan, Krillin, and Piccolo. Why? It would make more sense if this took place when the trio traveled to Namek for at least a month.Think about it, Goku wouldn't be fully healed, and Master Roshi can still strut his stuff. Don't know who would be the kidnapped one though (ChiChi? XP)

Cooler- Heres someone who I think is better than Frieza. Less bratty and respectful to his soilders. His movie makes more sense in the timeline, but I would think he would bring the common grunts from the Planet Trade Organization, and "Coolers Armored Squadron" would have the roles similar to Zarbon, Dodoria, and/or the Ginyu Force. Also, I feel the rest of the humans (Tien,Yamcha, and Chiaotzu) should be there too. I dunno, just feels right for me :P Also, Goku would know how to be a Super Saiyan instead of just forgetting it like he did in the movie.

Now for his 2nd movie, i would just remove the Dende scene and it would fit just fine in the 3 year training period. But with few changes of course.

Broly- Now HERES the Saiyan everyone was waiting for. It fits fine in the storyline in the 10 day waiting arc, but for time for the guys to relax before the Cell Games, I would heavily alter it for the 3 year period. But with a non Super Saiyan Gohan, and a Vegeta and (for some reason) Future Trunks, that didn't went into the Hyperbolic Time Chamber. Either way, I wouldn't want Broly as the "Legendary Super Saiyan" everyone thinks he was. So instead of that special form, we would get the Grade 2 and Grade 3 Super Saiyan "forms", which Vegeta and Trunks used to fight Cell.

His 2nd movie would like little changes, but what maks me confused is WHERES PICCOLO AND VEGETA!? Wouldn't they sense something as powerful as BROLY!? :shock: Also, it got annoying when Broly kept yelling "Kakarot" over and over, and over...

don't know about the 3rd movie, but may say something in the future.

Bojack- No changes. Could already fit after the defeat of Cell. A little bland, but could be like a space pirate (NOT the generic kind :lol: )

Janemba- Like the idea as the embodiment of evil thing. Sorta gives him a chaotic edge. But it would have to be AFTER Buu, so an alive Goku and Vegeta.

Hidreaugen- No major changes. Could take place after the defeat of Buu.

Sorry if this is long, but I just want to know your guys opinion on this. :D

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Re: Pick One Canon Movie Villain

Post by Bullza » Fri Jun 19, 2015 7:47 am

Broly. The others are mainly forgettable and just inferior wannabes of the canon villains anyway. Cooler was one of the better villains but he was just a poor man's Frieza.

Broly at least was fairly unique. He was sort of like the Doomsday of the DBZ universe.

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Re: Pick One Canon Movie Villain

Post by Berserker1921 » Sat Jun 20, 2015 5:07 am

Outside of broly and cooler. I would say janemba.

I always had this crazy idea that both buu and janemba were of the same species or at least related in some sort of way. Toriyama says buu existed since the beginning of creation. Wouldn't that be cool if their were other beings of chaos. Like there the children of the chaos God or if you wanted too include Demigra into the mix. Saying that he is their creator as he tried manipulating some events in the beginning of time and ended up making them. Which is the reason he got banished. I could see this after the events of the buu saga. That janemba awakens because his master or father claims that his brother or fellow creation wss murdered so take your vengeance on them.

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Re: Pick One Canon Movie Villain

Post by jcogginsa » Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:09 pm

cooler or Broly most likely

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Re: Pick One Canon Movie Villain

Post by Darkron2151 » Sun Jun 21, 2015 5:46 pm

Bojack fit into the story PERFECTLY, but he had no personality. I'd go with either Broly or Cooler, mostly leaning towards Cooler's side.

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Re: Pick One Canon Movie Villain

Post by FortuneSSJ » Sun Jun 21, 2015 6:26 pm

1 - Broly
2 - Janemba
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Re: Pick One Canon Movie Villain

Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:00 pm

Man, there are quite a few people that would like for Broly to become "canon", even though he's a pretty one note as a character goes, especially in his second movie. I mean, seriously, what the happened to Broly in Movie 10? Why did his vocabulary become so limited?

I imagine this is how it went down, before the Movie 10 started:

Broly: KAKAROT!
Broly's brain: Yeah, seriously, fuck that guy!
Broly: KAKAROT!
Broly's brain: Yeah, I know. We hate that guy. But lets try to say something else.
Broly: KAKAROT!
Broly's brain: Stop just saying 'Kakarot', already!
Broly: KAKAR-
Broly's brain: That's it! I'm gettin' outta here!

Brain leaves Broly's head. Movie 10 starts.

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Re: Pick One Canon Movie Villain

Post by jcogginsa » Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:14 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:Man, there are quite a few people that would like for Broly to become "canon", even though he's a pretty one note as a character goes, especially in his second movie. I mean, seriously, what the happened to Broly in Movie 10? Why did his vocabulary become so limited?

I imagine this is how it went down, before the Movie 10 started:

Broly: KAKAROT!
Broly's brain: Yeah, seriously, fuck that guy!
Broly: KAKAROT!
Broly's brain: Yeah, I know. We hate that guy. But lets try to say something else.
Broly: KAKAROT!
Broly's brain: Stop just saying 'Kakarot', already!
Broly: KAKAR-
Broly's brain: That's it! I'm gettin' outta here!

Brain leaves Broly's head. Movie 10 starts.
might have been driven completely insane by the experiences of his first movie.

I will say that, if i made Broly Canon, the 10th and 11th movies wouldn't happen

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Re: Pick One Canon Movie Villain

Post by supercat » Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:32 pm

Nothing against Broly fans, but quite frankly I think the all the hype that the fandom tends to inflate him with only serves to make his already bland personality (just an opinion) even less appealing. I can understand fans wanting their favorite character(s) to get the spotlight, but when they take some villain who was supposed to have fought against Cell arc / early Buu arc tier fighters, and suddenly label him as the strongest movie villain, or as having the capability to take down late Buu arc fighters or even rivaling GT characters, it just seems to accentuate the other subjective flaws of the character.

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Re: Pick One Canon Movie Villain

Post by Luso Saiyan » Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:43 am

Probably Chilled. I like his personality and specially the design.

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Re: Pick One Canon Movie Villain

Post by Doctor. » Wed Jun 24, 2015 1:22 pm

Coola would probably work, but they'd have to re-write him because as he stands right now he's nothing more than a Freeza clone. I'd like it if he were the more submissive of the family, the one who doesn't want to kill or rule, but is forced to do so by his father and then when his family is murdered, he tries to get revenge on Goku.

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Re: Pick One Canon Movie Villain

Post by Kakacarrottop » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:46 pm

From most wanted to least wanted:
1. Turles
2. Cooler
3. Lord Slug
4. Hirudegarn
5. Janemba
6. Dr Willow
7. Garlic jr
8. Super Android 13
9. Broly
10. Metal Cooler
11. Bio-Broly
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