"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by bleed0range » Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:56 pm

I feel like, it will re-tell BOG somewhat but focus on mostly new things. But I don't think it will retell ROF if it even gets to that point. If anything, I feel like the main focus of the series will be on the events that happen before/after BOG and leading up to ROF. As in, whatever the deal is with Champa and the training and acquisition of SSGSS with Whis.

I keep seeing this stuff about a 9 star Dragon Ball and I wonder what else Toriyama has come up with. Is Champa even the villain? Or is he just another character and the true villain hasn't been seen yet? In these kinds of posters, do they usually reveal the main villains? For a poster promoting an upcoming series?

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Noah » Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:58 pm

UpFromTheSkies wrote:If they do rewrite/retell BoG, I hope SSG looks like this

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Er... Exactly the same?
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:03 pm

Noah wrote:
UpFromTheSkies wrote:If they do rewrite/retell BoG, I hope SSG looks like this

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Er... Exactly the same?
I think he looks tougher and stronger there, his muscles and neck are a bit bigger. In BoG he looked like a teenager.

Edit: Here's the movie design for comparison, it looks a lot different

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:08 pm

They aren't going to alter the design. It wouldn't be worth it from the marketing/merchandise perspective. Best you should hope for is getting bigger muscles if the people don't pay attention and go off model while animating, but it won't be something the staff makes a conscious decision about.
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Post by UpFromTheSkies » Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:12 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:They aren't going to alter the design. It wouldn't be worth it from the marketing/merchandise perspective. Best you should hope for is getting bigger muscles if the people don't pay attention and go off model while animating, but it won't be something the staff makes a conscious decision about.
Yes, that's what I'm hoping for. It's not that big of a difference, most people like Noah wouldn't notice it, but I think it's very noticeable. I'm just glad they abandoned the skinny, doe eyed look for SSGSS.

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Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:15 pm

Not sure if someone posted it
At the very least Toei is appearently going for 100 episodes

Probably if it performs well they may strecht it or if it does bad it will be cut like GT.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:16 pm

I don't know what their intention was for SSGSS. The normal animation and the various games seems to have them with traditional sized muscles, but the character design sheets for the film clearly have the thinner muscles and so do the 3D model used in Resurrection F. Kind of a mess.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:17 pm

Re: ssjg

Yeah, I'm the opposite. I love that it's cute. I don't want that to change. Let blueper keep the muscles.
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Post by JulieYBM » Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:19 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:I don't know what their intention was for SSGSS. The normal animation and the various games seems to have them with traditional sized muscles, but the character design sheets for the film clearly have the thinner muscles and so do the 3D model used in Resurrection F. Kind of a mess.
Yamamuro's designs for those forms have been released in some format? I know Toriyama's designs are in the Movie Guide but I haven't seen the former.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:32 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Yamamuro's designs for those forms have been released in some format? I know Toriyama's designs are in the Movie Guide but I haven't seen the former.
Single images have been used in the various magazines, but a lot of the settei were posted at various events. I'm not sure pictures were allowed at the ones from after the SSGSS reveal though, so a lot of the quality on the important ones aren't really worth looking at. But like on this one here for Vegeta, even if the quality is bad, you can clearly tell he's supposed to be a lot thinner. It's SUPER noticable in the side view:

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Goku's too, just for completion. But the quality is even worse...
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This is Yamamuro's SSGSS Goku though from a magazine, as well as his design of regular Goku. Again muscles are thinner.
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Post by Chuquita » Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:39 pm

So blueper muscles are supposed to be in between ssjg and base in terms of size? Ok.
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Post by JulieYBM » Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:44 pm

Hmm...strange. I'm thinking any potential inconsistencies is simply thanks to key animators drawing as they like, but for the most part Gokuu does look like he is 'thinner' than the usual 'big' Gokuu.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by thaman91 » Sat Jun 20, 2015 12:03 am

What do you guys think are the chances that this will be renamed internationally to "Dragon Ball Z Super"? It does take place during Z's 10 year time skip after all.

Would it be good for Super to be closely associated with the internationally popular Z series or would it be better to present itself as a totally new thing? I guess there's a chance of it happening since it has happened before (with Kai being renamed to Z Kai).

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Noah » Sat Jun 20, 2015 12:10 am

thaman91 wrote:What do you guys think are the chances that this will be renamed internationally to "Dragon Ball Z Super"? It does take place during Z's 10 year time skip after all.

Would it be good for Super to be closely associated with the internationally popular Z series or would it be better to present itself as a totally new thing? I guess there's a chance of it happening since it has happened before (with Kai being renamed to Z Kai).
I think something similiar, I mean... How SUPER is a new series if as a matter of fact it does take place during Z? I mean SUPER could be a new thing if was past EoZ, it still feels like DBZ to me
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Post by MagicBox » Sat Jun 20, 2015 12:28 am

As much as I dislike "Dragon Ball Z Kai," I'll concede that I can kinda sorta maybe possibly understand the logic behind why they renamed it.

Super doesn't need the "Z" for any reason whatsoever. That's not the franchise's name. We can't keep relying on that letter. It's used as part of the title for the television series that adapts manga chapters 195-519. Nothing more. It's annoying enough that people refer to the entire franchise (including the original comics) as "Dragon Ball Z." I'm still irked that they used the "Z" branding for the recent films. The fact that they're reusing the "Z" logo for Super just goes to show how afraid they are to let go. They need to let go. We need to let go. We need to move on.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Jun 20, 2015 12:31 am

Y'all think we will see EoZ Goku outfit? Representing he's the master/teacher now? Maybe towards the end of the 100 episides?

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Ushabtis » Sat Jun 20, 2015 1:10 am

TheGmGoken wrote:Y'all think we will see EoZ Goku outfit?
I'd love to see that. EOZ/GT goku gi is easily my favorite outfit goku wore over the course of the show.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sat Jun 20, 2015 1:14 am

TheGmGoken wrote:Y'all think we will see EoZ Goku outfit? Representing he's the master/teacher now? Maybe towards the end of the 100 episides?
Depending on where Super ends, maybe? At the end of Z, according to Viz, Goku said he'd been keeping tabs on Uub, So if it ends right before the Uub stuff in Z, maybe we could finish Super with Goku putting on that dogi and sensing uub for the first time? I dunno.
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Post by fadeddreams5 » Sat Jun 20, 2015 1:37 am

I can see it now: Dragon Ball Super Z
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Post by Lord Frieza » Sat Jun 20, 2015 3:25 am

bleed0range wrote: I keep seeing this stuff about a 9 star Dragon Ball and I wonder what else Toriyama has come up with.
The Nine Star Dragon Ball stuff comes from the cover page of the manga. There is a nine star dragon ball on that page but at this point it could just be a error in the artwork.

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