The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Lord Beerus]

Pui Pui vs Cui (equal power)

Cui is more cunning in battle compared to Pui Pui. So I'm giving this to Cui.

[supercat]

Dodoria vs Pui Pui (equal power)
Zarbon vs Pui Pui (equal power)
Zarbon vs Dodoria (equal power)

[Noah]

Dodoria vs Pui Pui (equal power)
Zarbon vs Pui Pui (equal power)
Zarbon vs Dodoria (equal power)

- Pui Pui would win ease against Dodoria

- Not sure if Pui Pui could stand Zarbon Post-Transformation

- Zarbon would win without transforming


I got some battles:

Full Power SSJ Goku (Cell Games) vs Full Power Bojack

Super Saiyan 2 Gohan (Boo Arc) vs Super Saiyan Vegeta (Boo Arc)

Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks vs Ultimate Gohan

Super Saiyan 2 Goku vs Broly (Movie 10)

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

I got some battles:

Full Power SSJ Goku (Cell Games) vs Full Power Bojack

Super Saiyan 2 Gohan (Boo Arc) vs Super Saiyan Vegeta (Boo Arc)

Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks vs Ultimate Gohan

Super Saiyan 2 Goku vs Broly (Movie 10)

-Bojack wins, in my opinion. I see him as the movie equivalent of Perfect Cell.

-Gohan one-shots Vegeta. Piccolo wondering how Vegeta can win against Buu when Gohan couldn't implies the gap isn't that huge.

-Ultimate Gohan wins easily, unless he gets hit by a Kamikaze Ghost Attack.

[supercat]

Dodoria vs Pui Pui (equal power)
Zarbon vs Pui Pui (equal power)
Zarbon vs Dodoria (equal power)

- Pui Pui would win ease against Dodoria

- Not sure if Pui Pui could stand Zarbon Post-Transformation

- Zarbon would win without transforming


I got some battles:

Full Power SSJ Goku (Cell Games) vs Full Power Bojack

Super Saiyan 2 Gohan (Boo Arc) vs Super Saiyan Vegeta (Boo Arc)

Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks vs Ultimate Gohan

Super Saiyan 2 Goku vs Broly (Movie 10)

I meant equal power levels for my previous hypothetical battles, so I was looking to see who you all thought would win purely basing things on combat skill, strategy, etc.

Anyway, to answer yours:

-Bojack would crush Goku with the utmost ease. The space pirate gave SSJ Gohan quite the challenge, and it wasn't until the latter became SSJ2 when the tables were turned.
-Gohan should be able to take this. He may have been a bit rusty, but at SSJ2 he still has a good amount of power at his disposal.
-Ultimate Gohan would teach Gotenks a thing or two about fighting. Barring Gotenks' cocky personality, Gohan still has enough of a power advantage over the young fighter to take him down easily.
-SSJ2 Goku would trash the overly hyped legend.

More battles:
Zarbon vs Jeice (equal power, unlimited stamina)
Zarbon vs Recoome (equal power, unlimited stamina)
Transformed Zarbon vs Recoome (equal power, unlimited stamina)

[Noah]

-Bojack wins, in my opinion. I see him as the movie equivalent of Perfect Cell.

-Gohan one-shots Vegeta. Piccolo wondering how Vegeta can win against Buu when Gohan couldn't implies the gap isn't that huge.

-Ultimate Gohan wins easily, unless he gets hit by a Kamikaze Ghost Attack.

- I think Bojack might lose to Goku, because SSJ2 Teen Gohan is strong but not as strong to one hit kill Perfect Cell as you say they're equivalent.

- Don't you think it would be a good fight? I know Gohan is in advantage, but he slacked off and Vegeta is a battle genius

- Easily? Gotenks is a fusion is there really a big gap between their powers? I think yes but a small gap, maybe

- Oh! You forgot about Broly

- Bojack would crush Goku with the utmost ease. The space pirate gave SSJ Gohan quite the challenge, and it wasn't until the latter became SSJ2 when the tables were turned.
-Gohan should be able to take this. He may have been a bit rusty, but at SSJ2 he still has a good amount of power at his disposal.
-Ultimate Gohan would teach Gotenks a thing or two about fighting. Barring Gotenks' cocky personality, Gohan still has enough of a power advantage over the young fighter to take him down easily.
-SSJ2 Goku would trash the overly hyped legend.

More battles:
Zarbon vs Jeice (equal power, unlimited stamina)
Zarbon vs Recoome (equal power, unlimited stamina)
Transformed Zarbon vs Recoome (equal power, unlimited stamina)

- But isn't FPSSJ Goku stronger than FPSSJ Teen Gohan in both Cell Games and Movie 9?

- I think that too, Broly had some difficult I think with a slacked off Super Saiyan 2 Gohan, maybe a trained SSJ2 Goku would be a problem for him


Your battles:

- That first would be difficult, Jeice is more strong battling alongside Burter, I think still that Jeice have better techniques but Zarbon is stronger in physical attacks, so I vote for Zarbon

- Recoome may win because of his endurance

- That would be difficult too, but I stil vote for Recoome

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

-Bojack wins, in my opinion. I see him as the movie equivalent of Perfect Cell.

-Gohan one-shots Vegeta. Piccolo wondering how Vegeta can win against Buu when Gohan couldn't implies the gap isn't that huge.

-Ultimate Gohan wins easily, unless he gets hit by a Kamikaze Ghost Attack.

I think Bojack might lose to Goku, because SSJ2 Teen Gohan is strong but not as strong to one hit kill Perfect Cell as you say they're equivalent.

- Don't you think it would be a good fight? I know Gohan is in advantage, but he slacked off and Vegeta is a battle genius

- Easily? Gotenks is a fusion is there really a big gap between their powers? I think yes but a small gap, maybe

- Oh! You forgot about Broly

- Not really. As I said, the gap between Gohan and Goku/Vegeta can't be that big. Especially if it's pre-Majin Vegeta. Buu arc Goku/Majin Vegeta are only perhaps greater than CG Gohan. Buu arc Gohan is at least around CG Goku, based on his fight with Dabra.

So unless you think a hypothetical CG SS2 Goku would lose to CG FPSS Gohan... yeah...

- Compare their fights to Super Buu.

- Goku beats Broly. The Daizenshuu only notes Super Saiyan Broly as superior to Super Saiyan Goku. They avoid saying that in the Legendary Super Saiyan section of Broly, leading me to believe he's not stronger than SS2 Goku.

[Pantalones]

- But isn't FPSSJ Goku stronger than FPSSJ Teen Gohan in both Cell Games and Movie 9?

Not during the Cell Games, that's for sure. Gohan thought Goku had been holding back against Cell when actually he was at full power, because Gohan could tell the power Goku was using was less than his own maximum. He had always assumed Goku was stronger than he was, so when he sees Goku putting out less power than what he himself is capable of, he assumes it's because his dad isn't going all-out after all.

The only reason Gohan didn't do a whole lot better against Cell than Goku had was because Gohan was in "pacifist mode" and wasn't even really trying to fight up until the point where he got pissed off and went SSj2.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

- But isn't FPSSJ Goku stronger than FPSSJ Teen Gohan in both Cell Games and Movie 9?

I didn't see this, but no... no... Gohan was stronger than Goku.

The suppressed Cell that practically stomped Goku couldn't land a hit on Gohan or even make his Ki drop with multiple attacks.

The title of the Chapter were Gohan steps in to fight is called "The one who surpasses Goku".

And, when Gohan steps in to the fight and powers up; Cell says:

“Looks like what Son Goku said wasn’t a complete bluff…But it seems he overstated things a little when he said you could defeat me…”

There's two parts to this. The first is Gohan being stronger than Goku, the second is Gohan being strong enough to defeated Cell. Cell contradicts the second part, leaving only the first to be true, otherwise what exactly "wasn't a complete bluff"?

[supercat]

- But isn't FPSSJ Goku stronger than FPSSJ Teen Gohan in both Cell Games and Movie 9?

- I think that too, Broly had some difficult I think with a slacked off Super Saiyan 2 Gohan, maybe a trained SSJ2 Goku would be a problem for him


Your battles:

- That first would be difficult, Jeice is more strong battling alongside Burter, I think still that Jeice have better techniques but Zarbon is stronger in physical attacks, so I vote for Zarbon

- Recoome may win because of his endurance

- That would be difficult too, but I stil vote for Recoome

Movie 9 presumably takes place shortly after the Cell Games. During their fight with Cell, it was pretty clear that Gohan was a good amount above his father in terms of power. My guess is that gap didn't change at all between the events of the Cell Games and their confrontation with Bojack. In any case, Bojack was easily overwhelming all of the SSJs at the time, and consequently it took an SSJ2 to finally take the space pirate down. Therefore, in order for Goku to stand any chance, his SSJ form would have to be able to wield the power of an SSJ2. While his SSJ powers probably do increase to much higher levels down the road, the duration of time between Cell and Bojack was far too short for the Saiyan to have obtained any notable power increases.

Another Battle:
Zarbon vs Nappa: (equal power, unlimited stamina)

[fadeddreams5]

Super 17 vs. SSJ4 Vegeta

Super 17 vs. Golden Ape Bebi Vegeta

Super 17 vs. Ice Shenron

Super 17 vs. Nuova Shenron

Super 17 vs. Ice Shenron and Nuova Shenron at the same time

Super 17 vs. Yi Xing Long Shenron

[Lord Beerus]

Zarbon vs Nappa: (equal power, unlimited stamina)

Nappa has more deadly and devastating techniques, so he defeats Zarbon.

Super 17 vs. SSJ4 Vegeta

Super 17 vs. Golden Ape Bebi Vegeta

Super 17 vs. Ice Shenron

Super 17 vs. Nuova Shenron

Super 17 vs. Ice Shenron and Nuova Shenron at the same time

Super 17 vs. Yi Xing Long Shenron

Super 17 loses in all those matchups.

[supercat]

Super 17 vs. SSJ4 Vegeta

Super 17 vs. Golden Ape Bebi Vegeta

Super 17 vs. Ice Shenron

Super 17 vs. Nuova Shenron

Super 17 vs. Ice Shenron and Nuova Shenron at the same time

Super 17 vs. Yi Xing Long Shenron

If this is Super 17 after absorbing energy, he likely crushes all of them with the utmost ease, with the exclusion of Yi Xing Long. The fight between dragon and android would last for a bit, but the most probable outcome would entail the super android triumphantly ending the battle.

On the contrary, if this is before the android has had the luxury of feasting on any energy, I'd say there's a good chance he won't make it past SSJ4 Vegeta.

Another battle:
Jeice vs Burter

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Super 17 vs. SSJ4 Vegeta

Super 17 vs. Golden Ape Bebi Vegeta

Super 17 vs. Ice Shenron

Super 17 vs. Nuova Shenron

Super 17 vs. Ice Shenron and Nuova Shenron at the same time

Super 17 vs. Yi Xing Long Shenron

-Loses to Vegeta
-Loses to Baby if he's pre-KHH, but stomps Baby if he's post-KHH
-same as above
-same as above
-same as above
-Loses entirely

[Lord Beerus]

Jeice vs Burter

The both of them realising that fighting is pointless and go out to Spaceies.

But seriously, I'd say Burter's super speed gives him a great advantage. So he wins.

[supercat]

Raditz vs Zarbon (equal power, unlimited stamina, no Oozaru for Raditz)
Dabura vs Nappa (equal power, unlimited stamina, no spitting for Dabura, no Oozaru for Nappa)

[Lord Beerus]

Raditz vs Zarbon (equal power, unlimited stamina, no Oozaru for Raditz)
Dabura vs Nappa (equal power, unlimited stamina, no spitting for Dabura, no Oozaru for Nappa)

- Raditz is more cunning in battle. So he would win in the long run
- Dabra uses his magic materialization to summon a sword and slice Nappa in half.

[supercat]

Raditz vs Nappa (equal power, unlimited stamina)
Final Form Frieza 100% vs Base Kogu

[TheGmGoken]

[quote="supercat"]Raditz vs Nappa (equal power, unlimited stamistamin

[quote]
Nappa pulls the tail and the power levels aren't equal no more.

[supercat]

I meant Raditz vs Nappa in a fight to the end that strictly entails hand to hand combat, usage of ki, etc. (so no tail grabbing )