"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:35 am

fexus wrote:He doesn't like fighting but he still want to help people. Being heartless isn't the way.
It would help if he just stayed away, he's a liability now. If he want's to help he can stay on the sidelines as a last line of defense and protect his family. Not just charge in from the get go to battle against godly beings he stands no chance against.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by fexus » Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:56 am

SSJ God Gogeta wrote:
fexus wrote:He doesn't like fighting but he still want to help people. Being heartless isn't the way.
It would help if he just stayed away, he's a liability now. If he want's to help he can stay on the sidelines as a last line of defense and protect his family. Not just charge in from the get go to battle against godly beings he stands no chance against.
He isn't a liability. A liability is someone like Chi-chi. He is still pretty strong.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Sora Saiyan » Fri Jun 26, 2015 3:04 am

SSJ God Gogeta wrote:
fexus wrote:He doesn't like fighting but he still want to help people. Being heartless isn't the way.
It would help if he just stayed away, he's a liability now. If he want's to help he can stay on the sidelines as a last line of defense and protect his family. Not just charge in from the get go to battle against godly beings he stands no chance against.
To be fair, when Gohan fought Beerus he didn't know how strong Beerus was, and everybody did quite poor against him, and with Freeza's men he was the strongest there at the time. Did he even attempt to challenge Freeza? I thought they knew they were outclassed and were trying to buy time.

I'd like Gohan to, at the very least, keep his ultimate powers in Super.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by dbzfan7 » Fri Jun 26, 2015 3:33 am

Yeeeeuuup just like I thought....it's already begun. So will that be 5 or 6 pages of nothing but Gohan talk?
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Fri Jun 26, 2015 3:52 am

Sora Saiyan wrote:To be fair, when Gohan fought Beerus he didn't know how strong Beerus was, and everybody did quite poor against him
True. However, watching Majin Buu and the rest of the Z-fighters getting knocked away like they were nothing should be a good indication that he isn't dealing with the average walking talking purple cat and that he should plan his next move carefully just in case this opponent has a power greater than his own and doesn't wined up on the body pile.

Anyway, I gave two cents. I never really did get into these big Gohan discussions but I know how they usually end. So I say we just end it now.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by dbzfan7 » Fri Jun 26, 2015 3:55 am

SSJ God Gogeta wrote:Anyway, I gave two cents. I never really did get into these big Gohan discussions but I know how they usually end. So I say we just end it now.
If you're lucky. Unfortunately even if you want to stop, you may have people pull you back in because you don't agree with their opinion. The Dragon Borg Collective will own your soul.


But enough about that....I'm starting to think Fem Whis may be a sign of Whis being more fleshed out....maybe...
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:33 am

dbzfan7 wrote:If you're lucky. Unfortunately even if you want to stop, you may have people pull you back in because you don't agree with their opinion. The Dragon Borg Collective will own your soul.
They can disagree with me, I really don't care. Just know that even if they reply saying such, I will not respond to them here. I don't want this topic to get out of hand like it's predecessors. I'm done discussing it here.

Moving on.

With Super just a week away I can't wait to get some new info on Fat Beerus (I know his name is champa but I don't care I'm calling him Fat Beerus) and FemWhis. I'm really excited to see what part they play in this new story and what sort of personality they have. I just hope they're great like the Beerus and Whis we have now.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Vice » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:46 am

Toonami97 wrote:Uh Isn't anyone the LEAST bit displeased by how much Gohan has fallen and needs to get back his old magic
Yeah, considering that his fans won't stop incessantly crying about it, no you're not the only one.

Gohan sucks, and shouldn't have even gotten what he's had in this series so far. Literally sits on his ass and becomes the strongest. Fuck that. Characters are sacrificed in this series all the time, yet it's only really a travesty now because it's Gohan. Dude's in a fighting series and doesn't like to fight, so fuck him. Let him move over and let better characters take his spot then.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Avery » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:58 am

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Toonami97 wrote:Uh Isn't anyone the LEAST bit displeased by how much Gohan has fallen and needs to get back his old magic
Yeah, considering that his fans won't stop incessantly crying about it, no you're not the only one.

Gohan sucks, and shouldn't have even gotten what he's had in this series so far. Literally sits on his ass and becomes the strongest. Fuck that. Characters are sacrificed in this series all the time, yet it's only really a travesty now because it's Gohan. Dude's in a fighting series and doesn't like to fight, so fuck him. Let him move over and let better characters take his spot then.
Are you just biased against Gohan? He's getting weaker and weaker anyway...I hope that makes you happy.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Araki » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:02 am

I think Gohan's development makes perfect sense, and back pedal on it now would be a mistake.
Gohan never liked to fight, but what kept him going from the Saiyan arc up to Cell was the continuous need to help the others, especially his father and Piccolo, he couldn't run away from those things anymore. He went from a crybaby to a brave kid, sure, but at that point he had a reason to do so. See how Goku never really had to force him to train. So naturally, any long period of peace would be the death of his skills.

Would it bring more dignity for the character if he retired and didn't try to fight at all anymore, like Yamcha? Well, maybe...that's debatable, but it wouldn't be Gohan. Even if he becomes a weakling, he can't look the other way.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by SaiyanZ » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:35 am

Can't wait to see Vegeta's new outfit, hopefully Goku, Gohan & Piccolo get some cool ones too
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:00 am

Toonami97 wrote:It makes me sad but I gotta show it


http://neokoi.deviantart.com/art/Gohan-why-542131528
Funny how that picture does not show Gohan getting his ass handed to him by Buu and then being absorbed. And also funny how it doesn't show Gohan steeping in an owning all of Freeza's men. Argue all you want about Gohan being weaker or whatever at least be fair.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Luso Saiyan » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:07 am

Araki wrote:Gohan never liked to fight, but what kept him going from the Saiyan arc up to Cell was the continuous need to help the others, especially his father and Piccolo, he couldn't run away from those things anymore. He went from a crybaby to a brave kid, sure, but at that point he had a reason to do so. See how Goku never really had to force him to train. So naturally, any long period of peace would be the death of his skills.
Wow, someone who actually understands his character arc. :wink: I mean, it should be obvious to anyone who read/watched the series, but considering the amount of ranting and complaining about him that I see, it's refreshing to see a comment like this.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sintzu » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:14 am

A lot of fans complain about the way Gohan is written in the new movies compared to before but if you think about it he was written a lot worse in the Buu arc cause unlike the new movies he was the strongest character yet he didn't play any role in the final battle.

Mr.Satan played a bigger role in that battle then he did.
Toonami97 wrote:It makes me sad but I gotta show it

http://neokoi.deviantart.com/art/Gohan-why-542131528
It's hard to believe this is the same character who won the Cell games.
fadeddreams5 wrote:So, what do you guys think Gohan's role in Super will be?

*mischievously rubs hands together*
If the poster is anything to go by then whatever it is it'll be very small.
Vice wrote:Literally sits on his ass and becomes the strongest.
Becoming the strongest at the time did a lot more bad then good for him cause if he didn't get that power up he wouldn't look as bad as he does now.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Avery » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:49 am

Vegeta actually looks awesome in casual clothes. SHOW ME THAT OUTFIT ALREADY!
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by alakazam^ » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:27 am

We were already expecting this but Super's official Twitter confirmed we'll get the 30 second version of the trailer after Kai's last episode on Sunday.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Sora Saiyan » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:10 am

SSJ God Gogeta wrote: Anyway, I gave two cents. I never really did get into these big Gohan discussions but I know how they usually end. So I say we just end it now.
Totally agree, it gets far too out of hand... Soooo.. Vegeta's new outfit looks good from what I can see, rocking the earth threads. ;)

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by ArchedThunder » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:13 am

I hope that Goku's farmer attire and whatever Vegeta's casual clothes are make it into the next fighting game as alternate costumes.

Also I'm not the only one that saw that super low res image of Vegeta and instantly thought he was wearing Future Trunks's jacket, am I?

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Post by pacz360 » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:20 am

Wait there a new guidebook or something :eh:

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Post by VegettoEX » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:23 am

pacz360 wrote:Wait there a new guidebook or something :eh:
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