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Post by UpFromTheSkies » Sun Jun 28, 2015 10:44 pm

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Post by Noah » Sun Jun 28, 2015 10:48 pm

Bullza wrote:None of the original 13 movies even compare to the new movies. They're not even in the same league as them. Sure they aren't fantastic by any means but they make all the other movies look like a decent episode of filler in comparison.

Fusion Reborn was one of the better ones and even that was filled with crap like Veku and Goten and Trunks fighting Hitler.
I know that is your opinion, but not really... BoG was good, RoF as better but I still see movies like Bojack Unbound, Fusion Reborn and Wrath of the Dragon above those ones
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Post by MagicBox » Mon Jun 29, 2015 12:33 am

The various event footage is nice, but I was really hoping for more on-disc bonus features. I'm surprised they're not producing any new interviews. The Japanese "Battle Of Gods" home video release looks a little better by comparison. Anyway, Kanzenshuu covered most of these events as news posts, so I don't really feel like I'm missing out on anything. The real treat is that storyboard book (498 pages?!), but that's not enough for me to justify spending almost $100 (plus shipping) for it, especially after I only recently finished buying the Japanese Digimon blu-ray sets...

I'll just wait for FUNimation's release and pray that I won't have to double-dip on an "extended edition" down the line.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:08 am

My mom told me that she saw a trailer for Resurrection F when she saw Jurassic World with my grandpa and aunt. It also looks like the news is trending on Facebook as well.
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Post by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Mon Jun 29, 2015 6:04 am

So, yeah.

A month ago, I told myself I wasn't going to bother with the limited edition set for this movie...well, there's been a change of plans. They got me again. 498 page storyboard collection?! :shock: Um, yes please. If it's all contained within a hardcover book, then I won't even hesitate. The clock is pretty nifty, too.
MagicBox wrote:The various event footage is nice, but I was really hoping for more on-disc bonus features. I'm surprised they're not producing any new interviews. The Japanese "Battle Of Gods" home video release looks a little better by comparison. Anyway, Kanzenshuu covered most of these events as news posts, so I don't really feel like I'm missing out on anything. The real treat is that storyboard book (498 pages?!), but that's not enough for me to justify spending almost $100 (plus shipping) for it, especially after I only recently finished buying the Japanese Digimon blu-ray sets...

I'll just wait for FUNimation's release and pray that I won't have to double-dip on an "extended edition" down the line.
Keep in mind that back in 2013, the Jump Special's inclusion on the BOG set wasn't announced straight away. There might be more to come in terms of bonus features. :wink:
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2013/06/30/ba ... inclusion/

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Post by Chuquita » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:00 am

Storyboard's the only interesting extra to me, but even so I'm still not sure I'll spring for it this time. The Gokû and Vegeta interactions were fun, and I liked watching the rest of the cast battle the Freeza-minions, but there just wasn't enough plot for my tastes, blueper taking away ssjg is a big minus for me, and it felt like there were scenes missing that will probably reappear if there's ever an extended cut of F that airs on TV (though even that I'm not certain on because if Super does rewrite both movies what would be the point?).


Now BOG's storyboard, that I would've liked to have.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:24 am

I'm just happy the release date for Japanese home video isn't really that far away, meaning we hopefully won't have to wait too awful long for a domestic home release, woot!
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Post by Bullza » Mon Jun 29, 2015 12:09 pm

Noah wrote:
Bullza wrote:None of the original 13 movies even compare to the new movies. They're not even in the same league as them. Sure they aren't fantastic by any means but they make all the other movies look like a decent episode of filler in comparison.

Fusion Reborn was one of the better ones and even that was filled with crap like Veku and Goten and Trunks fighting Hitler.
I know that is your opinion, but not really... BoG was good, RoF as better but I still see movies like Bojack Unbound, Fusion Reborn and Wrath of the Dragon above those ones
No idea why, they're 50 minute generic movies that felt like 2 episodes of filler put together with superior animation.

I can't see how anyone wouldn't find the new movies vastly superior in almost every possible way. The animation is better, they make use of more characters, they're longer, have better villains, they offer more to the Z universe, they're funnier, the fights are significantly better, the music is better etc

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Post by Vegard Aune » Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:00 pm

Bullza wrote:
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Bullza wrote:None of the original 13 movies even compare to the new movies. They're not even in the same league as them. Sure they aren't fantastic by any means but they make all the other movies look like a decent episode of filler in comparison.

Fusion Reborn was one of the better ones and even that was filled with crap like Veku and Goten and Trunks fighting Hitler.
I know that is your opinion, but not really... BoG was good, RoF as better but I still see movies like Bojack Unbound, Fusion Reborn and Wrath of the Dragon above those ones
No idea why, they're 50 minute generic movies that felt like 2 episodes of filler put together with superior animation.

I can't see how anyone wouldn't find the new movies vastly superior in almost every possible way. The animation is better, they make use of more characters, they're longer, have better villains, they offer more to the Z universe, they're funnier, the fights are significantly better, the music is better etc
The underlined parts are highly debatable. I remember finding the animation in movies 9, 12 and 13 considerably more impressive than anything in the new movies and I never cared for Sumitomo's score aside from a couple of tracks.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:14 pm

I find Movie 9 to be overrated in my opinion. The movie feels like that it has cool ideas on paper, but things where totally wasted. Bojack is a really boring villain since he offers nothing that we haven't seen before with other characters before him. The whole Alien tenkachi budokai sounds awesome, but I feel like they totally ditch everything when Bojack and his gang show up. I also find the whole backstory with King Kai locking him up to be BS since King Kai is weaker then Nappa and yet he can steal up someone stronger then a normal SSj.

Most of the older DBZ movies don't hold up to me besides DBZ Movie 1, Movie 2, Movie 5, Movie 12 and 13. I admit that Movie 5 is a guilty pleasure given how much fun the movie is. Sure the story is weak, but I still like it.
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Post by Bullza » Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:37 pm

The underlined parts are highly debatable.
The music is the only one I could see being considered debatable. The animation is far better in the new movies, it's drastically more fluid and it can easily be seen that there's more frames per second especially in the fight scenes. There's also a lot more detail in the backgrounds.

Which is a given being that the movie had a bigger budget and it's like 20 years newer. The old movies now just don't look anywhere near good enough for the big screen, RoF does.

The fight scenes in the older movies were decent but they were predictable. They generally weren't all that long and the animation wasn't as good for them.

The Goku vs Beerus rematch fight is better than all the other fights in the original movie by a vast margin.

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Post by fadeddreams5 » Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:59 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I find Movie 9 to be overrated in my opinion. The movie feels like that it has cool ideas on paper, but things where totally wasted. Bojack is a really boring villain since he offers nothing that we haven't seen before with other characters before him. The whole Alien tenkachi budokai sounds awesome, but I feel like they totally ditch everything when Bojack and his gang show up. I also find the whole backstory with King Kai locking him up to be BS since King Kai is weaker then Nappa and yet he can steal up someone stronger then a normal SSj.

Most of the older DBZ movies don't hold up to me besides DBZ Movie 1, Movie 2, Movie 5, Movie 12 and 13. I admit that Movie 5 is a guilty pleasure given how much fun the movie is. Sure the story is weak, but I still like it.
Wasn't it King Kai and the rest of the Kais that locked him up?

I love the Bojack movie because of the setting. The time period, environment, tournament theme, and so on really, really appeal to me because I always wanted a saga centered around Kid Gohan after the Cell Games. Unfortunately, Toei let Bojack and crew go to waste, which ruined what could have been the best DBZ movie by far. I just don't understand that group of villains. WHAT WAS THEIR INTENTION!? They just came out of nowhere and started doing evil things....because. They are the worst villains in ANY DBZ medium, imo. Absolutely no personality or valid motive. It's unfortunate because, by design, they could have been awesome. First of all, they're freakin' space pirates! Secondly, they have their own SSJ-like transformation! Third, their unison in battle and techniques are really cool. These guys successfully do what the Z-fighters can't seem to: synchronize their abilities and fight together. Shame. :(

Admittedly, I would put it at #3 for me in terms of enjoyment. It's my guilty pleasure.
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Bullza wrote:None of the original 13 movies even compare to the new movies. They're not even in the same league as them. Sure they aren't fantastic by any means but they make all the other movies look like a decent episode of filler in comparison.

Fusion Reborn was one of the better ones and even that was filled with crap like Veku and Goten and Trunks fighting Hitler.
I know that is your opinion, but not really... BoG was good, RoF as better but I still see movies like Bojack Unbound, Fusion Reborn and Wrath of the Dragon above those ones
No idea why, they're 50 minute generic movies that felt like 2 episodes of filler put together with superior animation.

I can't see how anyone wouldn't find the new movies vastly superior in almost every possible way. The animation is better, they make use of more characters, they're longer, have better villains, they offer more to the Z universe, they're funnier, the fights are significantly better, the music is better etc
Honestly, I think F was crap. It's really no different from the Toei movies, only longer. Just a bore, imo. The fighting was actually really boring, imo. Top that with so many terrible ideas. There were some funny moments though.

BoG was good compared to most Toei crap. But they could have removed at least 30 minutes of it (Pilaf segments), and it could have been made into a special instead of a movie. There's just no sense of urgency, despite what the "enemy" tends to do to the planet. I'm personally not fond of the tone and fluff for a movie titled "Battle of Gods." Just like you found Fusion Reborn unfunny, I find BoG unfunny too. Just doesn't have much going on for me, but it's a decent flick.

As for animation, eh. The CGI stuff is cringey, modern settings are generic, and I hate the modern art for characters. Previous movies had amazing-looking settings and environments, such as Broly 2, Garlic Jr, and Bojack.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:06 pm

Bullza wrote:
The underlined parts are highly debatable.

The Goku vs Beerus rematch fight is better than all the other fights in the original movie by a vast margin.
No..no it wasn't. Goku va Garlic's henchmen was better than Beerus vs Goku. Better animation and music. The fight had great amount of action and showed off Goku skills as a fighting and how much of a technical fighter he is. Goku,Krillin, and Gohan vs Urio's men was a very well programmed fight. Think about it. Goku have the power advantage but still almost lost. Very good use of powers from the bad guys. Goku vs Turles had lots of drama (Turles countered a freaking Genki Damai) in it and was a fun beat down. Gohan, Piccolo, and Goku vs Lord Slug henchmen was very interesting. We even saw Chi Chi fight. Very showing of Gohan's will to fight, Chi Chi love for her child, and the weaker men won due to skill advantage not power. Lord Slug movie actually felt like a movie.

Goku vs Cooler. I'll give you that. Vegeta and Goku vs Cooler. A well back and forth fight. Very cool to see Goku and Vsgeta actually use teamwork instead of Revival of F.

Need more examples. The fights in the old movies were IMHO more exciting and worth the time than BoG and RF. Least Revival of F wasn't a total waste of time with its fight .

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Post by Bullza » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:39 pm

None of those Goku vs ugly designed, generic henchmen fights that lasted a couple minute if that are even compatable. The Goku and Vegeta vs Cooler fight was also riddled with terrible animation.

The Goku vs Beerus fight was a good 15 minutes, set over multiple locations like a city, forest, wasteland, cave, the sky and space. There was none of that recycled or still animation like the rest had, it was fluid and fast paced and makes the rest look cheap and amateurish.

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Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:47 pm

Bullza wrote:None of those Goku vs ugly designed, generic henchmen fights that lasted a couple minute if that are even compatable. The Goku and Vegeta vs Cooler fight was also riddled with terrible animation.

The Goku vs Beerus fight was a good 15 minutes, set over multiple locations like a city, forest, wasteland, cave, the sky and space. There was none of that recycled or still animation like the rest had, it was fluid and fast paced and makes the rest look cheap and amateurish.
That's your opinion and I respect that. But Beerus vs Goku just felt lame and over hyped. The attacks didn't have the impact that it should had and felt very weak. Only thing good was when Goku turnt SSJ. Everything else felt like.. forgetful you know. Wasn't impressed at all. Also the original 13 movies actually have AMAZING design for henchmen but rarely the main bad guy (Only Cooler, Slug, Bojack, Broly, and Janemba looked cool). And you shouldn't call the villains ugugly when comparing it with a movie with SS God, Blue Ssj, and Beerus..

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Post by Bullza » Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:01 pm

Some of the henchmen designs were decent. Mainly in Movie 5 and Zangya in Movie 9 but most were really generic.

These are generic. The one on the right just looks like a larger different coloured Saibamen.
Except for the guy at the back they're boring designs
Very generic here.
Soooo generic (not from the movies but same kind of thing).
What's wrong Beerus' design he looks very unique and cool. Super Saiyan God may not have been unique but it looked cool, SSGSS kinda looks cool.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:18 pm

That's flaw with all the new movie's. A bonus is the Martial arts seem more prominent, and the moves seem more fluid. On the opposite side there is no ferocity in the fights no more. They feel like happy slaps without any impact. Only few times do I feel the weight of a punch or kick. Outside that it looks like they're play fighting. Anime with worse animation have shown better weight when it comes to a blow.
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Post by Mewzard » Mon Jun 29, 2015 6:10 pm

A two and a half minute clip of the English dub, with Goku fighting Freeza:

http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2 ... on-f-clip/

It's...it's good. So good...I bet Schemmel enjoyed the new material, and Ayres the chance to return as Freeza.

Welp, I'm certainly hyped for August.
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Post by Ajay » Mon Jun 29, 2015 6:43 pm

Those of you who have been on this forum for a while will know that I'm not usually a fan of Schemmel, but man, he's sounds fantastic in that clip! All the Superman garbage is gone, and we actually have him delivering natural sounding lines, only verging into cockiness when appropriate. I'm genuinely impressed.

As always, Chris Ayres is knocking it out of the park. I think I'm going to like this dub.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Jun 29, 2015 7:02 pm

Mewzard wrote:A two and a half minute clip of the English dub, with Goku fighting Freeza:

http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2 ... on-f-clip/

It's...it's good. So good...I bet Schemmel enjoyed the new material, and Ayres the chance to return as Freeza.

Welp, I'm certainly hyped for August.
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