"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
User avatar
Marco Polo
I Live Here
Posts: 2973
Joined: Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:44 pm

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Marco Polo » Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:33 pm

I'll be blatantly honest... If they want to groom someone to become the main character in the future, it should be someone who isn't voiced by Nozawa...

User avatar
sangofe
Kicks it Old-School
Posts: 8092
Joined: Sun Feb 15, 2004 3:39 pm

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sangofe » Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:33 pm

TheGmGoken wrote: He'll start liking girls something Goku doesn't quite like. Most kids act like their dad anyways so it's a phase. Goten more childlke than Goku though.
If you count GT Goten, yeah. But we don't know how far DBS will go, and if it will overwrite GT.

User avatar
dbzfan7
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 13045
Joined: Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:55 am
Location: Earth
Contact:

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:35 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:
Black_Liger wrote:Wow, Goten sure seems to be a central character this time around, He gets some father-son bonding with Goku, his usual Trunks hang out and seems to love his sister in law dearly trying to get her a good gift. All in one episode.
Maybe they're grooming him to become the main character in the future! And then they'll throw that idea away at the last second and make Goku the main character again.
:lol: Step back into the Grand Tour.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!

User avatar
soulnova
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1376
Joined: Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:45 pm
Location: Mexico
Contact:

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by soulnova » Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:51 pm

Marco Polo wrote:I'll be blatantly honest... If they want to groom someone to become the main character in the future, it should be someone who isn't voiced by Nozawa...
I have been saying this for a while now. Thats why i was hoping for Uub, Pan, Bra+ new characters to slowly take over the show if they had started at EoZ.
Check out Journey's End, a short story of Goku and Vegeta's final days. "Time is running out for the last two Saiyans"

User avatar
TheGmGoken
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 10592
Joined: Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:19 pm
Location: Capsule Corps

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:54 pm

sangofe wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote: He'll start liking girls something Goku doesn't quite like. Most kids act like their dad anyways so it's a phase. Goten more childlke than Goku though.
If you count GT Goten, yeah. But we don't know how far DBS will go, and if it will overwrite GT.
EoZ Goten and Gt Goten has same personality. With Goten being a teenager now and Trunks having a girlfriend. I can see a short Goten having being interested in girls.
Goten is whinier than Goku, too.
He is a kid you know. And his whines was when his family died or his father left. Hardly being a whiny kid.

User avatar
Chuquita
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 15284
Joined: Sat Nov 20, 2004 2:16 am
Location: Somewhere

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:57 pm

If we were to ever next-gen, I'd like to see them take another shot at Pan (I liked EoZ Pan so much; her GT self was a huge disappointment to me), but I don't mind settling for them developing Goten's character instead. In Z he never did get time to really set himself apart from Trunks' cute sidekick, after all.

I do get vague "Usagi and ChibiUsa" vibes off of Gokû and Goten's relationship in chapter 1 of Super's manga (only less caustic, Usagi and ChibiUsa tease each other more) but those vibes aren't a bad thing, imo.
Last edited by Chuquita on Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:58 pm, edited 1 time in total.
On hiatus.

User avatar
TheDevilsCorpse
Moderator
Posts: 11378
Joined: Sun Jun 20, 2010 4:34 am
Contact:

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:58 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
sangofe wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote: He'll start liking girls something Goku doesn't quite like. Most kids act like their dad anyways so it's a phase. Goten more childlke than Goku though.
If you count GT Goten, yeah. But we don't know how far DBS will go, and if it will overwrite GT.
EoZ Goten and Gt Goten has same personality. With Goten being a teenager now and Trunks having a girlfriend. I can see a short Goten having being interested in girls.
If he appears in a post Resurrection F movie, then maybe. Goten isn't a teenager in Super though. He's still 7.
Last edited by TheDevilsCorpse on Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:02 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Direct translations of the Korean DB Online timeline and guidebook.
My personal "canon" and BP list. (Coming Soon)

User avatar
TheGmGoken
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 10592
Joined: Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:19 pm
Location: Capsule Corps

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:01 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote: If he appears in a post Resurrection F movie, then maybe. Goten isn't a teenage in Super though. He's still 7.
Oh shit forgot about that :lol: . Well I'll love to see more cunning and devious Goten. I know it'll annoy people but kinda like how Goku was in Boo Arc and when Krillin first debut.

User avatar
Doctor.
Banned
Posts: 10558
Joined: Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:02 am
Location: Portugal

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Doctor. » Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:02 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:He is a kid you know. And his whines was when his family died or his father left. Hardly being a whiny kid.
He whined when Trunks won against him, too.

And I didn't say he was a whiny kid, I said he was whinier than Goku, who hardly ever cried or complained.

User avatar
Avery
Beyond-the-Beyond Newbie
Posts: 364
Joined: Fri May 01, 2015 1:18 am
Location: Iraq

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Avery » Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:09 pm

Goku will remain the main character forever. *sigh*
Toriyama never changed this and never will. He might have considered having Gohan assume the mantle during serialization, but now it's just hopeless. If, and I mean IF he were to change the main character, he'd probably pick Goten, your one-dimensional Goku carbon copy. Post-EoZ we have Pan and Bra but they are girls, so only Oob has a chance (a very, very slim one though) and honestly, I don't find him that interesting.
An angry Final Fantasy fan wrote: And after all the outrage, when I'm ready, I'll go out on to GameStop and buy a Persona 5 copy. And when my mother finds me investing my precious time trying to bond with this hot anime girl, I'll look straight into her eyes and say "but have you looked at the menu screen? have you actually seen the menu screen? In that very moment, she knows. She fucking knows. As she handles me the nugget pieces she previously cooked for me, she leaves my room with these words: "Persona 5 is the true savior of the JRPG".
VegettoEX wrote: In a blunt nutshell, no-one wants to read bullshit. Don't post bullshit. Be a cool person that posts cool things that other people would actually want to read. Don't be Zamasu from episode 63 talking to himself.

User avatar
FortuneSSJ
Born 'n Bred Here
Posts: 5939
Joined: Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:07 pm

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by FortuneSSJ » Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:14 pm

-About the timeframe-
Like I thought this doesn't take place much further from Buu arc. Well this one was easy though... The Satan's money scene just make it obvious this couldn't take place in BOG timeline. So, everything may happen sooner and they will have more material to work within this gap. ‪#‎Stuckinthis10yeargapforever‬

Goten, Trunks you guys are forgiven. Just try to not look smaller.
A world without Dragon Ball is just boring.

Favourite old DB Animators: Masaki Sato and Tadayoshi Yamamuro
Favourite new DB Animators: Yuya Takahashi and Chikashi Kubota

User avatar
dbgtFO
Kicks it Old-School
Posts: 7976
Joined: Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:07 pm
Contact:

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by dbgtFO » Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:28 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:-About the timeframe-
Like I thought this doesn't take place much further from Buu arc. Well this one was easy though... The Satan's money scene just make it obvious this couldn't take place in BOG timeline.‪
The clincher for me was the beginning of the manga chapter, where the narrator staters "days and months pass by"(paraphrased).
Always thought it wouldn't make much sense to have it worded like that, if it's supposed to take place +4 years after Buu.
So I'm very pleased with this, since it couldn't be EoZ.

Beerus-sama
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1111
Joined: Sat Dec 06, 2014 12:41 pm
Location: A tree planted on a backward Pyramid

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Beerus-sama » Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:29 pm

About the preview for the first episode:
So this just means one thing... Beerus doesnt sleep as much as it was stated in BoG :P
Last edited by Beerus-sama on Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:33 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Sleeping until the tournament is over.

User avatar
soulnova
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1376
Joined: Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:45 pm
Location: Mexico
Contact:

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by soulnova » Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:33 pm

*sigh*


This went against all my expectations. I had initially hoped for a post-EoZ plot but feared they would do a Post-RoF setting. Then the first bits of info started to trickle down and felt sad because it could be Pre-Rof.... then things pointed out at Pre-BoG... and finally we got confirmation that is Post-Buu.

Post-Buu.

#‎Stuckinthis10yeargapforever‬ indeed, FortuneSSJ.
Check out Journey's End, a short story of Goku and Vegeta's final days. "Time is running out for the last two Saiyans"

Beerus-sama
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1111
Joined: Sat Dec 06, 2014 12:41 pm
Location: A tree planted on a backward Pyramid

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Beerus-sama » Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:38 pm

I think it had to be that way so that there wont be a retcon of the 5 years Bulma said Goku didnt contact them, Super will probably just cover those 5 years...
Sleeping until the tournament is over.

User avatar
Doctor.
Banned
Posts: 10558
Joined: Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:02 am
Location: Portugal

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Doctor. » Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:40 pm

Beerus-sama wrote:I think it had to be that way so that there wont be a retcon of the 5 years Bulma said Goku didnt contact them, Super will probably just cover those 5 years...
Super could go beyond those 5 years without Goku and Bulma meeting.

User avatar
FortuneSSJ
Born 'n Bred Here
Posts: 5939
Joined: Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:07 pm

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by FortuneSSJ » Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:45 pm

Doctor. wrote:
Beerus-sama wrote:I think it had to be that way so that there wont be a retcon of the 5 years Bulma said Goku didnt contact them, Super will probably just cover those 5 years...
Super could go beyond those 5 years without Goku and Bulma meeting.
It should be. They don't have to meet each other.
They were both in Namek and never crossed paths. Its not a rule.
A world without Dragon Ball is just boring.

Favourite old DB Animators: Masaki Sato and Tadayoshi Yamamuro
Favourite new DB Animators: Yuya Takahashi and Chikashi Kubota

User avatar
Chuquita
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 15284
Joined: Sat Nov 20, 2004 2:16 am
Location: Somewhere

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:49 pm

But do they even really care that much about that one line about the 5 years?

If anything, I think we're only stuck because:
-marketing to a shounen audience means it's improbable to allow Pan to be the sole main character which is a whole other topic altogether
-95!Toriyama having gone out of his way to make continuing off EoZ appear undesirable to himself so he wouldn't want to go back there (I think he probably could've written Uub in a way that was more interesting to himself if he had wanted to).
Last edited by Chuquita on Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:51 pm, edited 1 time in total.
On hiatus.

Cursemark505
Beyond Newbie
Posts: 211
Joined: Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:26 am

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Cursemark505 » Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:50 pm

Beerus-sama wrote:I think it had to be that way so that there wont be a retcon of the 5 years Bulma said Goku didnt contact them, Super will probably just cover those 5 years...
This series has tons of retcons. A few more wouldn't hurt.

User avatar
FortuneSSJ
Born 'n Bred Here
Posts: 5939
Joined: Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:07 pm

Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by FortuneSSJ » Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:52 pm

Super Saiyan Swagger wrote:The official Dragon Ball Super Twitter page just posted this. It's the last shot from the show's ending credits.
Image
Nawww look at that smile. You can't get angry at a face like that.
Wow! Our hero couldn't look better!! Forget the Dragons Balls, Son Goku will get all the ladies with that smile! 8)

All the budget went to that shot.
A world without Dragon Ball is just boring.

Favourite old DB Animators: Masaki Sato and Tadayoshi Yamamuro
Favourite new DB Animators: Yuya Takahashi and Chikashi Kubota

Post Reply