"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Marco Polo]

This is a story about Goku

"Dragon Ball"

[soulnova]

Goku will remain the main character forever. *sigh*
Toriyama never changed this and never will. He might have considered having Gohan assume the mantle during serialization, but now it's just hopeless. If, and I mean IF he were to change the main character, he'd probably pick Goten, your one-dimensional Goku carbon copy. Post-EoZ we have Pan and Bra but they are girls, so only Oob has a chance (a very, very slim one though) and honestly, I don't find him that interesting.

Why sigh about Goku being the main character forever ? This is a story about Goku, him being the main character is how it is and should always remain. The story started with Goku and should end with Goku.

You wouldn't see shows like One Piece, Slayers, Inuyasha, Bleach etc, etc, change their main character.

I'm not familiar with it but i know JoJo does that all the time.

[Araki]

I'm not familiar with it but i know JoJo does that all the time.

Jojo was established like that from the get go.
It didn't suddenly change the main character after years and years. It's a story about generations.

Let's face it, replacing Goku as the main character would please a handful of people and piss off everyone else.
I think sometimes people confuse how a story is supposed to be with how they want it to be.

This is a story about Goku

"Dragon Ball"

That's like saying One Piece is about the treasure and not Luffy just because it doesn't have his name.

[Doctor.]

Naruto is doing that right now.

[Scott]

This is a story about Goku

"Dragon Ball"

Just because it's called Dragon Ball it doesn't mean that the story isn't about Goku's life. Most tv shows are about a characters life more than they are about the name of the show.

[Araki]

Naruto is doing that right now.

..not really. I think you're talking about a short 10-chapter gaiden (that is about to end) made to promote the upcoming movie.
And Naruto is still one of the main characters in both, he wasn't replaced. He's being as much "replaced" as Goku was when Gohan was introduced.

Call me when they start a proper, new series where his son is the solo protagonist and let's see how it goes.

[JulieYBM]

The Naruto Gaiden is about "the Seventh Hokage's relationship with the Scarlet Spring" which is another way of saying "Naruto's relationship with Sarada". Naruto is kind-of-sort of the main character, yes, but the reader knows about as much as Sarada does. It's her story and all the better entertainment for that. Boruto: Naruto The Movie will be about the son of the Seventh Hokage, of course, so expect to see the movie framed from his view. Dragon Ball never did that, it never put the reader in a position where they only knew as much as the main character in such a way. Toriyama doesn't seem capable of writing anything like that. He's pretty one-note in that regard.

[SSJGBGoku]

Dragonball Super licensed for Latin America.

http://www.dragonballinsider.com/2015/0 ... n-america/

[Doctor.]

Why do people think that we want Goku to die in episode 1 and never appear again? No, we don't want that. The idea of the "next generation" isn't for Goku to get no spotlight. It's for characters like Pan and Oob to get MORE spotlight than other characters like Kuririn, whose time is now over, and have Goku as a mentor figure, just like back in part 1 of the manga with Roshi, Goku & Kuririn. Nobody WANTS Goku to go away forever. What Naruto is doing is keeping Naruto as the main character, but giving the same amount of spotlight to the "next generation" and, simultaneously, setting it up for future material. We're not saying to strip away Goku's spotlight suddenly, but to gradually get rid of it in favor of other characters.

[kizuki]

Why do people think that we want Goku to die in episode 1 and never appear again? No, we don't want that. The idea of the "next generation" isn't for Goku to get no spotlight. It's for characters like Pan and Oob to get MORE spotlight than other characters like Kuririn, whose time is now over, and have Goku as a mentor figure, just like back in part 1 of the manga with Roshi, Goku & Kuririn. Nobody WANTS Goku to go away forever. What Naruto is doing is keeping Naruto as the main character, but giving the same amount of spotlight to the "next generation" and, simultaneously, setting it up for future material. We're not saying to strip away Goku's spotlight suddenly, but to gradually get rid of it in favor of other characters.

Great point and totally agree. Which is why I hope, at some point, Super transitions into leading up to FnF, with focus on Goku and Bejita training with Whis while everyone else is on Earth keeping the peace. Maybe even introduce some decent bad guys in order to showcase some importance of people like Goten, Trunks, hell even Piccolo and Gohan coming out of "retirement" as I like to call it.

[Chuquita]

If they were to replace Gokû I'd retire from the fandom. You do a replacement now, it'll just feel like someone's OC fanfiction made official, and I don't want any part of that.

This isn't like Precure where they reboot every year, or JoJo where it's built into the storyline.

Re: Uub and Pan

No interest in Uub, feels too much like Gohan back when Gohan was boring to me (pre-Buu arc).
EoZ Pan I like, but she's got zero chance because marketing people would see her as the girl before seeing her as the protagonist (which is unfair, it shouldn't matter that she's a girl).

[Ushabtis]

Why do we think Pan and Uub have to be the protags of an EOZ series? They weren't mains in GT, just supporting cast members (especially Uub).

[Cold Skin]

^ I don't think Pan and Oob have to be much of anything, they're just symbolic of the future, nothing more.
We don't need anything to be done with those characters that are only interesting as ending concepts, not as actual developed characters.

[Doctor.]

^ I don't think Pan and Oob have to be much of anything, they're just symbolic of the future, nothing more.
We don't need anything to be done with those characters that are only interesting as ending concepts, not as actual developed characters.

They're not interesting as characters because they had a few chapters of screen-time. If they were given the time to develop like Gohan was, then maybe someone could actually care about them.

[Ushabtis]

While they were only in a couple of episodes/chapters I'm not sure how Uub could be a fun character? We have already seen the pretty much anything Uub could do but with Gohan. To have them go and make a gohan clone, would not only be silly, it'd (to me) feel like they messed up with Gohan as a character and wanted a second try. resulting in gohan being doubly useless. but of course nothing is set in stone and Uub could be something unique and fresh instead of making a copy and paste. after all he is Kid Buu reincarnated so that could be turned into something cool. so i'm probably over thinking the whole uub thing

Pan...never saw the appeal in her, if she was a he doubt anyone would care.

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if they're trying to appeal to kids with an EOZ series to make it sell of whatever just make a magic time traveling saiyan boy come out of nowhere like Future Trunks did. his reason for being in that time...power of the dragon balls. Then have Uub be the krillin of this saiyan boy and have Pan be the cool-strong female character that young girls can relate with.

[Cursemark505]

Goku

Why sigh about Goku being the main character forever ? This is a story about Goku, him being the main character is how it is and should always remain. The story started with Goku and should end with Goku.

You wouldn't see shows like One Piece, Slayers, Inuyasha, Bleach etc, etc, change their main character.

The shows you listed actually have a set plot. Dragon ball does not.

We don't want Goku to disappear forever. We just want more focus on the supporting cast and stories centered around them and their development as characters.
One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, and Inuyasha(I think. it's been a while since I've watched this) do this. They pay attention to side characters and the main protags of said series don't overshadow them in every instance like Goku tends to do.

Have you read Young Jiji's Dragon ball AF or Dragon ball multiverse? These are prime examples of the side characters receiving attention with Goku being uninvolved. We want something like that.

[jcogginsa]

I don't mind Goku being the main character, but i want him to not be the only one who matters. And honestly, i don't think i'll be disappointed with DBS in that regard.

[soulnova]

As i mentioned before, Uub and Pan (even Bra) could be part of the new generation cast. Obviously not the only ones. Goten and Trunks can bridge the gap between them and the Old Guard. I mentioned we can have 17's child to show up and join them. We already know the kid exists... i would perfectly agree to have him being a boy to keep the marketing balanced... 2 boy & 2 girls following the grown ups and helping. Have them shine once in a while and build up from there.

[Cadellin]

Goku will remain the main character forever. *sigh*
Toriyama never changed this and never will. He might have considered having Gohan assume the mantle during serialization, but now it's just hopeless. If, and I mean IF he were to change the main character, he'd probably pick Goten, your one-dimensional Goku carbon copy. Post-EoZ we have Pan and Bra but they are girls, so only Oob has a chance (a very, very slim one though) and honestly, I don't find him that interesting.

Why sigh about Goku being the main character forever ? This is a story about Goku, him being the main character is how it is and should always remain. The story started with Goku and should end with Goku.

You wouldn't see shows like One Piece, Slayers, Inuyasha, Bleach etc, etc, change their main character.

I'm not familiar with it but i know JoJo does that all the time.

Jojo does indeed do that quite regularly. At the end of each arc, roughly a dozen volumes, they skip forward twenty years to deal with the next generation, or as is currently the case, switch to another timeline. They've done that eight times so far, and advertise each as a unique 'part'. Some are longer than each other- the first part was ten episodes in the anime adaptation, whereas part three is around 52. In any case, Jojo was always designed to do that by involving overarching plots that can take up to a century to resolve in-universe, unlike Dragonball.

In all honesty I wouldn't be adverse to a skip in time, perhaps an even longer jump down the line to a completely new set of characters who can experience the same slow increase in power, rediscover super saiyan and so on. But that is something Dragonball has never really done, bar that GT special with Goku jr.

[Big Momma]

Best comparison pic I could find of Trunks' jacket collar not completely popped, and a bigger, bleh-quality pic of Vegeta's new jacket. I wonder if it is supposed to be a jean jacket or just a collared button-up? If it's the same style of Future Trunks' jacket, that would be incredible. Not sure how Vegeta would look in a bolero-cut jacket though :/ I'm gonna draw that and see how it turns out xD

Vegeta's jacket looks more like a blue version of his "Badman" button-up.