Showing them means they are retelling them, just because they are retelling them doesn't mean they'll be completely different. They are retelling them in a different medium.Luso Saiyan wrote:On the contrary, it acknowledges them as central events of their respective arcs. The series will expand on them, not retell them.fadeddreams5 wrote:So "Battle of Gods arc" and Revival of F arc" seriously do not even imply a retelling of some sort?
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Aren't the Namekian Dragon Balls already "Super Giant"?
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Which would reasonably fit within the definition of a retelling, "a new, and often updated or retranslated, version of a story": http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/retellingLuso Saiyan wrote:On the contrary, it acknowledges them as central events of their respective arcs. The series will expand on them, not retell them.fadeddreams5 wrote:So "Battle of Gods arc" and Revival of F arc" seriously do not even imply a retelling of some sort?
A retelling doesn't necessarily have to be a complete reimagining - an expanded version of the same events would still fall under that definition, as would simply including the events as-is and chopping them into episodes (not that I think the latter would happen - if nothing else it'd be really awkward pacing-wise). It would still be presenting the story in a new way, and as part of the Dragon Ball Super series - therefore the series would be retelling the events of the movies, even if not expanding or altering them in any way.
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Future Trunks comes for a visit? That provokes Jaco to show up to arrest him? Lol that would be fun...Basaku wrote:Trunks' long lost twin suddenly appears!soulnova wrote:If this is 6 months after Buu theres no way to have Pan being the 5th saiyan for the ritual. They will need Tarble... or change the ritual itself.
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Maybe the Super Balls are the size of a house.goku the krump dancer wrote:Aren't the Namekian Dragon Balls already "Super Giant"?
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This gave me a good laugh XDBasaku wrote:Trunks' long lost twin suddenly appears!soulnova wrote:If this is 6 months after Buu theres no way to have Pan being the 5th saiyan for the ritual. They will need Tarble... or change the ritual itself.
Still, Tarble's existence is just as -if not more- stupid, so who knows...
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I think it's important in the sense of probably being a preparation for their actual fight in the other universe later, mastering SSGSS and all that. I guess Freeza's return will be seen as an opportunity for training, and now they have the chance to work on that angle better, without the restraints RoF had of making it a standalone story.Basaku wrote:ROF can be totally skipped, it's structured as a filler anyway. All that it adds happens before it even starts (Super Bluper) and Jaco can be introduced anytime else. BOG will have to be retold tho.
It's not, because the announcement said "done entirely with new animation', not "an all-new story"Cold Skin wrote:an "all new" take on something pre-existing like BOG and RF is not "all new" by definition anyway, so such statement would already be a lie right now
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Tights shows up and helps in the ritual. Toriyama just forgets whose sister she's supposed to be.Basaku wrote:Trunks' long lost twin suddenly appears!soulnova wrote:If this is 6 months after Buu theres no way to have Pan being the 5th saiyan for the ritual. They will need Tarble... or change the ritual itself.
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I'm excited what they will do with BoG and RoF when they are not restricted to the length of a movie. I just hope they omit the party and the 2008 ova.
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As I see it, we can have the following ways to solve the Saiyan God transformation:
-Tarble
-Future Trunks
-The Ritual is different
-A new Saiyan shows up
-They retcon Pan/Bra's birthdays
I still want Tarble to come by.
-Tarble
-Future Trunks
-The Ritual is different
-A new Saiyan shows up
-They retcon Pan/Bra's birthdays
I still want Tarble to come by.
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LOL you guys are really arguing about this? It's obvious that they're retelling the movies to some degree. Walready have BoG being contradicted in chapter 1.Luso Saiyan wrote:On the contrary, it acknowledges them as central events of their respective arcs. The series will expand on them, not retell them.fadeddreams5 wrote:So "Battle of Gods arc" and Revival of F arc" seriously do not even imply a retelling of some sort?
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I can't lie, I'm a little disappointed to see the films kind of thrown under the bus to be re-told in series form now. It kind of takes away a little excitement from Resurrection F for me. I'm sure they'll make things different enough to still be interesting for fans that have already seen both films, but it's still a little concerning for me.
As for the story coming beyond that though - I'm definitely intrigued to see where we go with that. Looks like we really will get to see another universe after all! Can't wait to see what kind of characters come from that. It would be particularly interesting if at least some of the forces they come up against there aren't really villains, but are actually heroes themselves, and it's more of a conflict of ideologies or 'who owns these Dragon Balls' rather than good versus evil.
As for the story coming beyond that though - I'm definitely intrigued to see where we go with that. Looks like we really will get to see another universe after all! Can't wait to see what kind of characters come from that. It would be particularly interesting if at least some of the forces they come up against there aren't really villains, but are actually heroes themselves, and it's more of a conflict of ideologies or 'who owns these Dragon Balls' rather than good versus evil.
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Seems like the story is turning out to become another GT. Why would they be chasing for a new dragon balls if they never even bother using their current ones. Ohh Perhaps those Super Dragon balls are the Black Star Dragon balls that appeared in GT that never got a back story on how they came to existence.
And if Champa turns out to be the god of the 6th universe, then this story is already going to be a failure with copy and pasted gods that have no character development.
And if Champa turns out to be the god of the 6th universe, then this story is already going to be a failure with copy and pasted gods that have no character development.
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Options 1 and 5 seem the most logical. They will most likely just retcon Pan's birthday. However, given the nature and time period of the series, it wouldn't surprise me if they use Tarble to make him canon. Otherwise, he won't even exist.soulnova wrote:As I see it, we can have the following ways to solve the Saiyan God transformation:
-Tarble
-Future Trunks
-The Ritual is different
-A new Saiyan shows up
-They retcon Pan/Bra's birthdays
I still want Tarble to come by.
Well, we've already seen a 9 star dragon ball, so that debunks the black star dragon ball theory. Secondly, the black star dragon balls did have a backstory--they were created by the original Kami that did not split with Piccolo.GokuRules987 wrote:Seems like the story is turning out to become another GT. Why would they be chasing for a new dragon balls if they never even bother using their current ones. Ohh Perhaps those Super Dragon balls are the Black Star Dragon balls that appeared in GT that never got a back story on how they came to existence.
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Oh, so you've seen the series?GokuRules987 wrote:have no character development.
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How about we wait and see before we claim it's another GT cause nobody really knows what going to happen in superGokuRules987 wrote:Seems like the story is turning out to become another GT. Why would they be chasing for a new dragon balls if they never even bother using their current ones. Ohh Perhaps those Super Dragon balls are the Black Star Dragon balls that appeared in GT that never got a back story on how they came to existence.
And if Champa turns out to be the god of the 6th universe, then this story is already going to be a failure with copy and pasted gods that have no character development.
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Maybe they wished for something that exceeded Shen long's power (as usual) and were told about the super dragon balls then set off to gather them? Just saying.
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Not understanding why they couldn't just have Super fully take place in Universe 6.
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I find it funny when people compare "going on a trip after a different set of Dragonballs" to GT or think it's gonna be related when, well, Namek was about that too, only much earlier. I immediately think of Namek.
As for "they have no reason to go after them", that's just ridiculous considering the show didn't even start.
As for "they have no reason to go after them", that's just ridiculous considering the show didn't even start.
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Even if it borrows ideas from GT or flat out rips-off from it, it's the execution that counts. GT bombed because it was boring, emphasized too much on Goku, had poor characterizations for the new characters, put them in the sidelines before properly introducing them to the audience, had underwhelming battles, generic villains, and the list goes on. The concepts themselves were good enough to make a great series though.
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