"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Tennessaiyan » Wed Jul 01, 2015 7:26 pm

BeholdeR wrote:Anyone think some of the maincast might actually stay in the universe 6 for ever?

For example, if Piccolo goes there, he might meet someone/or just stay there.

Or we might get someone from the universe 6 to come back with the gang and stay in universe 7?
What if someone dies in universe 7, and they end up bringing back the alternate version of that character back from universe 6? That would make me sad. It'd sorta be like Data's death in Star Trek Nemesis. Only a lot more weird.
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Post by Chuquita » Wed Jul 01, 2015 7:29 pm

I'd be upset/disappointed if they altered the ssjg design. Part of why I like ssjg so much better than blueper is because it actually does something more than a simple recolor; and I like how it goes against type. It'd automatically lose points with me if they change it (and I'd strike it from my head-canon. :wink: )
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Post by FortuneSSJ » Wed Jul 01, 2015 7:36 pm

Chuquita wrote:I'd be upset/disappointed if they altered the ssjg design. Part of why I like ssjg so much better than blueper is because it actually does something more than a simple recolor; and I like how it goes against type. It'd automatically lose points with me if they change it (and I'd strike it from my head-canon. :wink: )
There's no pointing in doing that. It is whats it is. Its already stupid enough they retell the movies.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Wed Jul 01, 2015 7:49 pm

What if they make him just a little less skinny? :P

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Post by White Oni » Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:02 pm

TheRed259 wrote:Battle of Gods retelling: the animation will be inferior, the music will be different, the plot might change. I think that many people will hate it and they will feel mocked/tricked.
This!^^^

On top of that, the voice acting budget will be seriously demonized and their commitment will be weakened. Think about it. This was the first big theater release with a huge VA budget and it was the first DBZ media for a while. You really think you can recapture the same level of role commitment with a lower budget, tv, re telling of the story?

We probably won't get "F" by maximum the hormone. We may not even get the same VAs!

This is just a bad idea all around...

I seriously wonder if AT said soemthing like "hey I want to go on, but I've just got THIS much story left in me." And the toei got so tempted to run a 100 episode plus series that they're just using this as a ploy to make more money. Almost like filler.

Most people assume that filler is only valuable in so far as it lets the manga develop before the anime catches up. However in this case it may be that toei didn't see it as worth the financial commitment to marketing and such for only 15-20 episodes.

This may be the price we have to pay to even get the series extended, as a 20/ maybe even 50 episode series extension may not be worth it to them.

Remember, everyone has their hands in the Dbz pot and it's probably a real legal bitch to start it up again, so maybe this is almost a requirement for this to happen... If that's the case, I'm sad it is, but I'll take it over nothing

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by valfranx » Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:04 pm

why do I have the impression that the scenes of bog, are flashbacks only intended to summarize events of the films?

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Post by ArchedThunder » Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:06 pm

valfranx wrote:why do I have the impression that the scenes of bog, are flashbacks only intended to summarize events of the films?
I don't feel like Toriyama would call it an arc if that was the case.

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Post by Chuquita » Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:06 pm

UpFromTheSkies wrote:What if they make him just a little less skinny? :P

Like this
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Actually, I really liked that one until I saw the final version.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:09 pm

As frugal as TOEI is, I can't imagine them reanimating scenes they've already done, and I'm expecting to see movie footage whenever they show the exact same scene in Super, but it will be mostly new animation because there isn't enough content in BoG to make an entire story arc. It'll be like a SUPER extended BoG, where the extended scenes are longer than the movie itself.

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Post by Chuquita » Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:27 pm

UpFromTheSkies wrote:As frugal as TOEI is, I can't imagine them reanimating scenes they've already done, and I'm expecting to see movie footage whenever they show the exact same scene in Super, but it will be mostly new animation because there isn't enough content in BoG to make an entire story arc. It'll be like a SUPER extended BoG, where the extended scenes are longer than the movie itself.
I can see this happening.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by goku the krump dancer » Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:31 pm

Stretching out the movies into arcs will probably do justice to both films I feel. Making BoG that much better and FnF atleast tolerable. It'll give them a chance to answer a lot of questions and have things make that much more sense regardless of how clear they may seem now. And also it could give other characters "SHINE TIME", since that's something nearly everyone complains about. Especially with RoF.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Ushabtis » Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:38 pm

Since ROF will be made into an arc think the fight with the z warriors will be better? Cause I've seen clips on youtube and stuff it looks awesome but way too short.

also questions i hope get answered in ROF Arc:
-will Gohan last more that a punch in ROF against Frieza
-Will they explain why Gohan loses mystic and can barely go Super saiyan in less than a year of no training?
-Why no Yamcha in ROF? will they explain it better than "Not strong enough" (even though Roshi is there)
-Jaco introduction? will it be more than him just showing up saying "yo frieza's alive"
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by GokuRules987 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:42 pm

I agree, I loved original ssj god design. especially Gokus enlarged pupils and eyes that made him stand out more. Also his red aurora made him look super godly and omnipotent like! XD
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Araki » Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:51 pm

White Oni wrote:On top of that, the voice acting budget will be seriously demonized and their commitment will be weakened. Think about it. This was the first big theater release with a huge VA budget and it was the first DBZ media for a while. You really think you can recapture the same level of role commitment with a lower budget, tv, re telling of the story?

We may not even get the same VAs!

This is just a bad idea all around...
Wait, what?! You talk like voice actors are expensive, or worse, like you know them. But of course you don't, as these people clearly love their characters.

And obviously they'll be the same.
Seriously, some people are grasping at straws to find something wrong about this.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Kendamu » Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:08 pm

I'm more interested in why there's a need for Super Dragon Balls in the first place. In-universe, I wonder what happens that makes it necessary to go get Super Dragon Balls when the two (three?) sets we've had so far seem to have done the job just fine throughout the rest of the series. It's absolutely crazy to think what might go down that leads into this new adventure.

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Post by Chuquita » Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:16 pm

Kendamu wrote:I'm more interested in why there's a need for Super Dragon Balls in the first place. In-universe, I wonder what happens that makes it necessary to go get Super Dragon Balls when the two (three?) sets we've had so far seem to have done the job just fine throughout the rest of the series. It's absolutely crazy to think what might go down that leads into this new adventure.
This is true; it's gotta be something incredible. ( * u * )

It could be the alternate result of whatever damage Freeza does in the re-F, but I want it to be something incredible.

We haven't had those kinds of circumstances in a possibly-permanent situation in a long while.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by fadeddreams5 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:21 pm

Kendamu wrote:I'm more interested in why there's a need for Super Dragon Balls in the first place. In-universe, I wonder what happens that makes it necessary to go get Super Dragon Balls when the two (three?) sets we've had so far seem to have done the job just fine throughout the rest of the series. It's absolutely crazy to think what might go down that leads into this new adventure.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Basaku » Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:31 pm

Kendamu wrote:I'm more interested in why there's a need for Super Dragon Balls in the first place. In-universe, I wonder what happens that makes it necessary to go get Super Dragon Balls when the two (three?) sets we've had so far seem to have done the job just fine throughout the rest of the series. It's absolutely crazy to think what might go down that leads into this new adventure.
Dragon Balls from Universe 7 can't undo stuff done by people from other universes? Seems like it would be a logical/easy excuse.

We assume these super DBs are in Universe 6 right? Kinda worried about this, if it means there are Namekians there. I really don't want just alternate versions of the same characters (fat Goku, tall Vegeta, purple Namekians/Piccolo etc)

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by LightBing » Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:51 pm

Basaku wrote:
Kendamu wrote:I'm more interested in why there's a need for Super Dragon Balls in the first place. In-universe, I wonder what happens that makes it necessary to go get Super Dragon Balls when the two (three?) sets we've had so far seem to have done the job just fine throughout the rest of the series. It's absolutely crazy to think what might go down that leads into this new adventure.
Dragon Balls from Universe 7 can't undo stuff done by people from other universes? Seems like it would be a logical/easy excuse.

We assume these super DBs are in Universe 6 right? Kinda worried about this, if it means there are Namekians there. I really don't want just alternate versions of the same characters (fat Goku, tall Vegeta, purple Namekians/Piccolo etc)
I also don't want alternative versions, I don't see the appeal. The Super dragon balls stuff makes me a bit worried because it should be exclusive to Namekians. Unless they retcon the race to say they're originally from another Universe and super magical and stuff.

Just putting a theory out here that the Universe number is a ranking for strength/importance. Since we travel from 7 to 6.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by bleed0range » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:03 pm

Chuquita wrote:
Kendamu wrote:I'm more interested in why there's a need for Super Dragon Balls in the first place. In-universe, I wonder what happens that makes it necessary to go get Super Dragon Balls when the two (three?) sets we've had so far seem to have done the job just fine throughout the rest of the series. It's absolutely crazy to think what might go down that leads into this new adventure.
This is true; it's gotta be something incredible. ( * u * )

It could be the alternate result of whatever damage Freeza does in the re-F, but I want it to be something incredible.

We haven't had those kinds of circumstances in a possibly-permanent situation in a long while.
It could be something like, in Goku's universe (7) the fight with Freeza plays out where he wins... But in (6) they lose and Whis cannot save them in time. Wouldn't it throw everyone for a loop if the series started in universe (6) and the Goku and gang we know come in after the ROF arc. Like we wouldn't realize we are watching a different universe until they reveal it as such.

Would also explain minor differences in the retellings as things might happen slightly different in (6).

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