"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Doctor. » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:06 pm

Ehhh that'd be boring imo, if it's a parallel universe, then I'd want it to be as wacky and crazy as it can get.

Hopefully it's the only parallel universe though, since they're neighbors.

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Post by Kendamu » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:08 pm

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Kendamu wrote:I'm more interested in why there's a need for Super Dragon Balls in the first place. In-universe, I wonder what happens that makes it necessary to go get Super Dragon Balls when the two (three?) sets we've had so far seem to have done the job just fine throughout the rest of the series. It's absolutely crazy to think what might go down that leads into this new adventure.
This is true; it's gotta be something incredible. ( * u * )

It could be the alternate result of whatever damage Freeza does in the re-F, but I want it to be something incredible.

We haven't had those kinds of circumstances in a possibly-permanent situation in a long while.
It could be something like, in Goku's universe (7) the fight with Freeza plays out where he wins... But in (6) they lose and Whis cannot save them in time. Wouldn't it throw everyone for a loop if the series started in universe (6) and the Goku and gang we know come in after the ROF arc. Like we wouldn't realize we are watching a different universe until they reveal it as such.

Would also explain minor differences in the retellings as things might happen slightly different in (6).
That'd be pretty crazy, but I'm not too interested in seeing alternate universe versions of characters as much as I am seeing new characters in new universes. With the idea of there being Dragon Balls in Universe 6, I guess there's probably Namekians in Universe 6, too. I just don't want it to be like timelines or something.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:09 pm

If we do get a parallel universe I really want some fun to be had with Universe 6 Vegeta, whatever that Vegeta is like. :mrgreen:
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Post by Tennessaiyan » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:26 pm

Chuquita wrote:If we do get a parallel universe I really want some fun to be had with Universe 6 Vegeta, whatever that Vegeta is like. :mrgreen:
If that's how the universes work, this is going to be really weird for me... I mean, I can visualize there being similar gods/kais in each universe (each universe having its own cat-god of destruction, Whis-being, etc.) But each universe having its own Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Trunks, etc...? That would just be so strange. To me, at least.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sintzu » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:27 pm

Tennessaiyan wrote:But each universe having its own Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Trunks, etc...? That would just be so strange. To me, at least.
Strange and a waste of potential.
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Post by ArchedThunder » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:30 pm

The whole "Since it’s another universe, loads of new characters will turn up. I’ll do my best to draw the tons of character designs necessary, so I’m looking forward to this too." think makes me think it's not going to be a parallel universe. Also didn't one of the guide books imply that the universes were unique? I mean Champa and his handler looking like alternate versions of Beerus and Whis can easily be explained by something to do with the back story of the Gods of Destruction, it doesn't necessarily have to be related to the whole multiple universes, and the whole thing about Universe 6 having Dragon Balls can simply be explained by Dragon Balls being an inevitability, something that will always happen.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:31 pm

If all we'd be getting is alternate reality versions of the Universe 7 cast (as in gender swapped, fat, evil, whatever) for the Universe 6 Arc, I'd probably just tune out of the series till it was over. I don't really see that as interesting and I wouldn't want to bother following along every week. I'd just watch it later.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:36 pm

Basaku wrote:
Kendamu wrote:I'm more interested in why there's a need for Super Dragon Balls in the first place. In-universe, I wonder what happens that makes it necessary to go get Super Dragon Balls when the two (three?) sets we've had so far seem to have done the job just fine throughout the rest of the series. It's absolutely crazy to think what might go down that leads into this new adventure.
Dragon Balls from Universe 7 can't undo stuff done by people from other universes? Seems like it would be a logical/easy excuse.

We assume these super DBs are in Universe 6 right? Kinda worried about this, if it means there are Namekians there. I really don't want just alternate versions of the same characters (fat Goku, tall Vegeta, purple Namekians/Piccolo etc)
I'm hoping there is one super dragon ball in each universe, I really don't want alternate versions of all the characters. They could use it to tie GT and Heroes into one giant story, but I really don't want it.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sintzu » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:36 pm

ArchedThunder wrote: Also didn't one of the guide books imply that the universes were unique?
I remember reading something about that plus like you said,if this was just an alternate universe then he wouldn't be designing "loads of new characters" so it's safe to say this'll be something new and in terms of why Champa looks like Beerus,it might be because he's related to him.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:40 pm

I have a theory that these new dragon balls are from the original creator of the dragon balls. The dragon balls are not from Namek, but from a Elder God who rules over the 12 worlds. He try to teaching humans to create dragon balls, but they where not smart enough to know how to handle the power of the dragon balls. He try to teach saiyans to create dragon balls, but they where too evil to handle the power of the dragon balls. So the elder god went to Namek and try to teach the namekians on how create dragon balls. The namekians where able to pull it off and left the main universe for many years. Now he has return and has put the different set of Dragon Balls across the 12 worlds for Goku and the others to get their ultimate wish.

I know that this sounds terrible, but it's the best that I can come off with.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Noah » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:44 pm

I hope we get what we rarely get in DB series: Battles at night, I would like to see more characters fighting at night, a rainy night... That would be awesome!

Make this a thing, Toriyama! lol
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You said right, a fat Goku? For f*ck sake, no...
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Basaku » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:44 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I have a theory that these new dragon balls are from the original creator of the dragon balls. The dragon balls are not from Namek, but from a Elder God who rules over the 12 worlds. He try to teaching humans to create dragon balls, but they where not smart enough to know how to handle the power of the dragon balls. He try to teach saiyans to create dragon balls, but they where too evil to handle the power of the dragon balls. So the elder god went to Namek and try to teach the namekians on how create dragon balls. The namekians where able to pull it off and left the main universe for many years. Now he has return and has put the different set of Dragon Balls across the 12 worlds for Goku and the others to get their ultimate wish.

I know that this sounds terrible, but it's the best that I can come off with.
Well, there should be someone incredibly strong who first originated the DBs. I mean, the power to revive (billions of) dead people, grant immortality and basically any wish possible yet the creators of these incredible objects are just mid-tier Namekians? Why exactly can't the Namekias just revive the dead themselves and grant themselves any whishes they want? What's the point of making a Dragon to do it? :P I wouldn't mind a retcon that puts someone much stronger as the original creator of the DBs and who essentially granted Namekians this power

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by ArchedThunder » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:44 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I have a theory that these new dragon balls are from the original creator of the dragon balls. The dragon balls are not from Namek, but from a Elder God who rules over the 12 worlds. He try to teaching humans to create dragon balls, but they where not smart enough to know how to handle the power of the dragon balls. He try to teach saiyans to create dragon balls, but they where too evil to handle the power of the dragon balls. So the elder god went to Namek and try to teach the namekians on how create dragon balls. The namekians where able to pull it off and left the main universe for many years. Now he has return and has put the different set of Dragon Balls across the 12 worlds for Goku and the others to get their ultimate wish.

I know that this sounds terrible, but it's the best that I can come off with.
I wouldn't like the idea that Namekians were taught how to make Dragon Balls because two races before them sucked.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:50 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I have a theory that these new dragon balls are from the original creator of the dragon balls. The dragon balls are not from Namek, but from a Elder God who rules over the 12 worlds. He try to teaching humans to create dragon balls, but they where not smart enough to know how to handle the power of the dragon balls. He try to teach saiyans to create dragon balls, but they where too evil to handle the power of the dragon balls. So the elder god went to Namek and try to teach the namekians on how create dragon balls. The namekians where able to pull it off and left the main universe for many years. Now he has return and has put the different set of Dragon Balls across the 12 worlds for Goku and the others to get their ultimate wish.

I know that this sounds terrible, but it's the best that I can come off with.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:53 pm

I always had a idea in my head that the dragon balls where not originally from namek and that the Namekians learn it from a god or different race centuries ago. Namekians seem more peaceful compare to humans and saiyans which made me wonder why no one else in the universe try to create them. If saiyans had the power to create their own dragon balls then the universe would be screwed.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by miguelnuva1 » Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:33 am

Chuquita wrote:I'd be upset/disappointed if they altered the ssjg design. Part of why I like ssjg so much better than blueper is because it actually does something more than a simple recolor; and I like how it goes against type. It'd automatically lose points with me if they change it (and I'd strike it from my head-canon. :wink: )
Red SSJG isn't a recolor? Red SSJG and Blue SSJGSS do the same thing design wise.

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Post by soulnova » Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:37 am

Chuquita wrote:If we do get a parallel universe I really want some fun to be had with Universe 6 Vegeta, whatever that Vegeta is like. :mrgreen:
Yep. If this turns out to be truth, you can bet this will be my reaction.
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Post by FutureGohanSSJ2 » Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:39 am

Because it wasn't answered last time, I'll ask again: Why do people continue to think that "alternate universes" will contain Beerus and Whis? Like, "Oh what if in Universe 6, Whis couldn't save them in time?" Beerus and Whis are the Gods from the 7th universe. There is one and one ALONE of them. They do not exist in other universes. Well, they do, but in the forms of Champa and female Whis, etc.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Makai » Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:52 am

I wish Super Saiyan God looked more red, instead of kinda pinkish, and I don't really mind him getting skinny, but I'm still kinda getting used to the big eyes. I really wish the hair at least stood up a bit to appear more ssj instead of just being base recolored. Hopefully they alter it's appearance in some way in Super.
FutureGohanSSJ2 wrote:Because it wasn't answered last time, I'll ask again: Why do people continue to think that "alternate universes" will contain Beerus and Whis? Like, "Oh what if in Universe 6, Whis couldn't save them in time?" Beerus and Whis are the Gods from the 7th universe. There is one and one ALONE of them. They do not exist in other universes. Well, they do, but in the forms of Champa and female Whis, etc.
I haven't seen anyone say anything like that, but I'm pretty sure they're going to travel to Universe 6 with the rest of the cast.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:09 am

Re: ssjg and recolors

Blueper's a direct recolor, but ssjg changes Gokû's eyes-style and slims his body down in addition to the magenta hair. If it was the hair changing color alone it would just be a recolor. The body alterations set it apart from blueper. Part of why I was so disappointed in blueper was because it didn't do anything noticeable with the body. Even ssj1/2/3 bulk up/change the body. The only place it looks kind of different is on the F character design sheets, but those aren't representative of how it appears in the final animation.


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