Here are Toriyama's colored designs for the characters. We still don't get a name for Girl!Whis, which is making her feel more important...
Also, before whoever it was that was curious asks, they are still using the same thin Super Saiyan God Goku design from Battle of Gods (not that any change was actually expected). There are more shots from the book, but nothing super interesting that I've seen so far so I won't be posting anymore scans from the book. But I will leave this Toyotaro comic about Champa actually being Beerus inflated with air:
Direct translations of the Korean DB Online timeline and guidebook.
My personal "canon" and BP list. (Coming Soon)
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Here are Toriyama's colored designs for the characters. We still don't get a name for Girl!Whis, which is making her feel more important...
Also, before whoever it was that was curious asks, they are still using the same thin Super Saiyan God Goku design from Battle of Gods (not that any change was actually expected). There are more shots from the book, but nothing super interesting that I've seen so far so I won't be posting anymore scans from the book. But I will leave this Toyotaro comic about Champa actually being Beerus inflated with air:
I love that female character's design, I love the fact that she is taller then both Vegeta and Goku, maybe Yamcha too.
That comic was fun
English is not my first language!
I'm still waiting for Dragon Ball in Super...
I like that comic. It's pretty nice. Now I definitely will keep calling Champa, Fat Beerus.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
Other things I initially overlooked from the scans:
--Vegeta's casual wear is basically his badman outfit in a different color scheme, no badman on the back, and less messy (front) shirttail.
--The design for Bluma in her pajamas from when she talks to Tapion in Movie 13 is included in the book...
--Kid Trunks has a Hawaiian outfit, presumably for Episode 2.
--Goten may be joining them on the trip, as he has a similar outfit to Trunks'.
--Recycled BOG production images for Pilaf and the gang are in the book, so they are presumably staying kids in the TV adaptation?
Direct translations of the Korean DB Online timeline and guidebook.
My personal "canon" and BP list. (Coming Soon)
dbzfan7 wrote:I like that comic. It's pretty nice. Now I definitely will keep calling Champa, Fat Beerus.
He technically is. I think it's safe to say that every universe's God of Destruction are merely alternate versions of Beerus and Whis.
I don't really think it's safe to say that. It is stated that our heroes will leave for Universe 6, which the neighbor of ours. So maybe they are only related in some perspective, but I don't really see why should all the Gods of Destruction and attendants be alternate version of ours...
English is not my first language!
I'm still waiting for Dragon Ball in Super...
dbzfan7 wrote:I like that comic. It's pretty nice. Now I definitely will keep calling Champa, Fat Beerus.
He technically is. I think it's safe to say that every universe's God of Destruction are merely alternate versions of Beerus and Whis.
I don't really think it's safe to say that. It is stated that our heroes will leave for Universe 6, which the neighbor of ours. So maybe they are only related in some perspective, but I don't really see why should all the Gods of Destruction and attendants be alternate version of ours...
Why not? It's an alternate universe. It makes sense that each of the alternative universes would have Gods of Destruction that are all alternate versions of themselves.
FutureGohanSSJ2 wrote:Why not? It's an alternate universe. It makes sense that each of the alternative universes would have Gods of Destruction that are all alternate versions of themselves.
Actually, it is NOT an alternate universe, as mentioned by Toriyama too. He says it is a new and neighbor universe with loads of new characters, which will be designed by himself.
English is not my first language!
I'm still waiting for Dragon Ball in Super...
Nothing so far implies Champa and Girl!Whis are actually from another universe though. Chozenshu material (which contains some tidbits on the universes) doesn't specifically say Universe 7 only has one Hakaishin and potentially even leaves it open that "the Hakaishin who manages Earth is 'Beerus'. The fact that he has awakened means that planets within his jurisdiction will be destroyed." It might have been true that Beerus was the only one in the films, but with Super potentially retconning things, that's up for debate again.
Direct translations of the Korean DB Online timeline and guidebook.
My personal "canon" and BP list. (Coming Soon)
as anyone else realized the significance female whis has in the following respect: a woman may very well be the most powerful character in the db universe. If not THE strongest, certainly, one of the most powerful.
FutureGohanSSJ2 wrote:Why not? It's an alternate universe. It makes sense that each of the alternative universes would have Gods of Destruction that are all alternate versions of themselves.
Actually, it is NOT an alternate universe, as mentioned by Toriyama too. He says it is a new and neighbor universe with loads of new characters, which will be designed by himself.
If it's a universe that isn't ours, then it's an /alternate/ universe. That just basic multi-verse theory.
FutureGohanSSJ2 wrote:Why not? It's an alternate universe. It makes sense that each of the alternative universes would have Gods of Destruction that are all alternate versions of themselves.
Actually, it is NOT an alternate universe, as mentioned by Toriyama too. He says it is a new and neighbor universe with loads of new characters, which will be designed by himself.
If it's a universe that isn't ours, then it's an /alternate/ universe. That just basic multi-verse theory.
That's right but, I don't think that we can treat them as the ones from the Dragon Ball Multiverse fanmanga, which are limitless in number and they are basically the same, but have some alternate histories, timelines. The 6th Universe is described to be a new world with entirely new characters, who don't need to be alternate versions of the people from Universe 7.
English is not my first language!
I'm still waiting for Dragon Ball in Super...
rolmanus wrote:I don't know if this has been here, but here's a scan of episode 2. Can't wait for the family trip!
Spoiler:
Yes that scan has already been provided and we've been discussing its contents since yesterday.
It was also featured in a news update on this very site.
I think a simuldub still can happen. All FUNi have to do is wait for 12+ episodes to air, bring the crew over and dub like they would have to do with the eventual Blu-ray release if they waited for that.
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:I think a simuldub still can happen. All FUNi have to do is wait for 12+ episodes to air, bring the crew over and dub like they would have to do with the eventual Blu-ray release if they waited for that.
I'd rather wait, to be honest, for two reasons:
On many anime series, I've noticed that studios tend to fix up and retouch the animation a little for DVD/Blu-ray releases. A simuldub would mean FUNimation would likely be supplied with the broadcast footage, meaning any later fixes performed by TOEI wouldn't make their way into the US English release.
Being able to look ahead to future events in the series at the time of translation means that FUNimation would have greater likelihood of translating things 100% accurately, in the case of foreshadowing or vague teases in dialogue about future events.
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Also, before whoever it was that was curious asks, they are still using the same thin Super Saiyan God Goku design from Battle of Gods (not that any change was actually expected).
The character designs for SSGSS were much skinnier than they were in the movie, so I still have hope. If they keep the same exact design, I'm at least hoping for a scene where Vegeta insists that Goku teach him how to absorb SSG quickly so he doesn't have to stay in that embarrassing looking form any longer.
Can't wait for the family trip!
