Death Battle: Goku vs Superman 2

[Polyphase Avatron]

Just pointing out that Anubis was based on a jackal, not a cat. Bast was a cat goddess.

You may now return to your regularly-scheduled... whatever.

[Bullza]

Anubis was a jackal but Beerus highly resembles him. You can tell that's where the inspiration came from.

[Polyphase Avatron]

Well the original complaint was that a cat god makes no sense, and someone said that they should blame the Egyptians because of Anubis, and I just pointed out that Anubis wasn't a cat.

[Polyphase Avatron]

First able I want Goku to become strong to a somewhat respectable degree. I definitely don't want him to become the strongest character in fiction.

You literally said you'd make him omnipotent. Omnipotence is the strongest you can get.

Wait, seriously? Why would anyone want that, that would make the story as boring as it possibly could be. You'd get something like this:

[GokuRules987]

Anubis was a jackal but Beerus highly resembles him. You can tell that's where the inspiration came from.

Yeah but when doing some research on this Anubis Mythology i started to come to a conclusion that Both Beerus and Anubis in terms of there roles of the gods are completely unrelated because Anubis is suppost to be this Lord of the Underworld like Hades. But Beerus is the God of Destruction which only comes close to the Titan God Perses who was also God of Destruction. Here is a picture of him bellow.

I mean Egyptian mythologies dont even have a god of destruction, the closest they do come to is the god of war which is different.

Thats why I think having a Cat in Egyptian looking robes being a god of destruction is weird to be honest.

[GokuRules987]

Wait, seriously? Why would anyone want that, that would make the story as boring as it possibly could be. You'd get something like this:

I read some of the God-man comics before and the story is generally kind of funny but anyway i was just joking about this whole Goku being omnipotent thing, i just wanted fanboys to settle down already on this goku vs superman battle once and for all, and if goku was omnipotent, nobody would even be arguing on who would win anymore. But i would want Goku to get stronger to atleast become a multiversal level threat. And make him a universe buster.

[Bullza]

I'm sure it was only ever the appearance that was intended to serve as inspiration for Beerus and nothing more.

[Polyphase Avatron]

You do realize that you would actually have to have an interesting story rather than just pointless power inflation, right?

[Bullza]

With how this series could progress with the characters possibly going to the different universes and fighting stronger threats it really wouldn't surprise me if it got to the point where there was a villain powerful enough to destroy a universe.

At this point they've surely realised that being powerful enough to destroy a planet isn't really that impressive anymore. That's why were getting things like Frieza destroying a planet with a Kiai and Beerus with a tap of his nail.

So yeah in time, there'll be some villain who'll blow up a universe and they'll have to stop him before he destroys their universe or wipes out all the universes. He'll be like Kid Buu but on some universe level scale or something.

[Polyphase Avatron]

But my point is that the other guy is talking like he just wants more and more power with no story.

To use the example of Doctor Who (because, of course I would), there are tons of forces and entities that could destroy the universe or more, but they always have an actual plot and reasoning for it, and the solutions to defeat them are rarely simple and often involve the Doctor using his wits to outsmart them, and there are a lot of other plot elements rather than just a threat attempting to destroy things.

That's one of the reasons I liked Beerus, he wasn't just a random guy who went around destroying stuff for no reason, he had a purpose, and a personality, and Goku eventually talked him down after their fight was over.

[Bullza]

Yeah I understand what you mean. It would only take away from the show if Goku got ridiculously powerful like that just for the sake of it.

It's alright for characters to get stronger but there still needs to be challenges for the characters or there's no show. If they continue to gradually build up as they've been doing since the series started and eventually Galaxy busting becomes the new Planet busting for example then I'd have no problem with that.

[The Monkey King]

Has it ever been said how big those planets were?

Big enough to have their own atmosphere at least.

And if King Kais planet really is that dense? It is in the afterlife and could just have high gravity for some other reason. If it did work like real life shouldn't it have pulled the exploded part back into it and been pulling the nearby clouds to it?

Pffft, you've seen Death Battle's calculations. They don't care if shit doesn't clearly obey the laws of physics.

For the spoiler part

Spoiler:

I don't think he destroyed half the planet with physical power. Looked like a energy attack that he transferred by touch.

Their ki is their strength and there's ki in their physical attacks so this doesn't really make much difference

Kirby should have won, but he won in the wrong way. Plus, he should have had a MUCH harder time.

Nah, Buu should've stomped Kirby into the ground.

Spoiler:

They ignored that the punch used to crack Popstar was only 200 megatons of force showing that celestial objects in the Kirbyverse are less durable than IRL ones and applying out physics to the kirbyverse would be pointless.
Kirby's speed without the warpstar isn't even hypersonic (he needs jet Kirby to achieve mach 5) Buu should have blitz stomped him in an instant.
According to Death Battles own calculations SSJ2 Goku's maximum output is roughly 1 sextillion megatons, since SSJ2 Goku = Majin Vegeta according to Death Battle that's what Vegeta's maximum output should be the same and Fat Buu regenerated from that. There is nothing in Kirby's arsenal that comes even close to 1 sextillion megatons of force.
Also Kirby's 'crazy' strength feat where he threw a 3.5 ton monster at mach 73 speeds, is comparable to Tao Pai Pai's feat where he threw a roughly 1 ton pillar at mach 15 speeds. So let's say that this makes Kirby 20 times stronger than Tao, not bad but Buu is literally millions if not billions of times stronger than Tao. So Kirby's feat isn't all than impressive.
Also Buu is ass durable as he wants to be, he can make himself tough enough so bullets bouce off him like any other Z-fighter.

Spoiler:

And so what if Kirby 'tanked' a planet sized explosion, any Cell saga character could tank the explosion of Namek, do they beat Buu aswell?
Also the reason Kid Buu attempted to tank the spirit bomb instead of teleporting away from it is because he was certain he could deflect it. He was right but he didn't forsee Goku getting his power back.
Not to mention Death Battles hypothetical Buu saga SSJ4 Goku would be 2.5X faster than light, Super Buu should be comparable if not stronger than him, but he wasn't used.
Death Battle had no problem using powerscaling for the white power ranger, but they refuse to use it for DBZ characters.
Buu easily could've absorbed Kirby or turned him into chocolate.

[Polyphase Avatron]

Death Battle has never been known to be consistent in what evidence and calculations they apply. They just use anything that looks or sounds good (I recall they also steal work without crediting it; I know someone who did some calculations that they used in one of their episodes, I think the Guilty Gear one, and they never gave him credit for his work).

[The Monkey King]

Man, Super's already made this fight void. Apparently Beerus' planet tapping feat also makes him 6.5 times the speed of light casually due to how fast he left the planet.

And no doubt SSJG Goku is going to go toe-to-toe with a serious Beerus, giving him solid FTL speeds also.

[ATEMVEGETA]

People are just forgetting that Death Battle is UNOFFICIAL! It's just a team of people that make their own calculations about the strength and feats of some fiction characters and make a death battle video of them. It doesn't mean that what they say is correct. For example they calculated Thor's Hammer weight accoding to Death Battle is over a million tons, while an official card about Thor's Hammer states that it weights just 42.3 pounds.

http://comicbook.com/blog/2013/02/15/sc ... rs-hammer/

About the DBZ characters, they have stated that they have never watched the DB series. Their calculations about DB characters are ridiculous, and they completely ignored some feats that didn't fit well with their wanted outcome considering them as "abuse of BDZ".

[Polyphase Avatron]

Thor's hammer is enchanted so picking it up doesn't have anything to do with how much it weights, it only matters if you're 'worthy' or not.

[ATEMVEGETA]

Thor's hammer is enchanted so picking it up doesn't have anything to do with how much it weights, it only matters if you're 'worthy' or not.

Exactly! Irrelevant though with my point.

[dbzfan7]

About the DBZ characters, they have stated that they have never watched the DB series.

You'd need to source that, as I don't buy that. Hell one of the co creators twitter posts was hoping that Gohan would be badass in the next series. I'm sure they've both seen the whole thing.

[ATEMVEGETA]

About the DBZ characters, they have stated that they have never watched the DB series.

You'd need to source that, as I don't buy that. Hell one of the co creators twitter posts was hoping that Gohan would be badass in the next series. I'm sure they've both seen the whole thing.

Someone had posted it in the comments of SupermanVsGoku's Death Battle. If I'm not mistaken it was stated when VegetaVsShadow's Death Battle came out.

[dbzfan7]

About the DBZ characters, they have stated that they have never watched the DB series.

You'd need to source that, as I don't buy that. Hell one of the co creators twitter posts was hoping that Gohan would be badass in the next series. I'm sure they've both seen the whole thing.

Someone had posted it in the comments of SupermanVsGoku's Death Battle. If I'm not mistaken it was stated when VegetaVsShadow's Death Battle came out.

That's the most unreliable sourcing. Some random folk making a post? They definitely do their research, though conclusions they come to is mixed.