"Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

[bleed0range]

What are the episode titles, how can you see them?

They are in the quoted section above.

My attempt at translation (hopefully someone can do a better job in a bit):
2: Going to the promised resort! Vegeta on a Family Vacation!?
3: Where is the dreamed of [thing]?! Looking for Super Saiyan God! (sorry, beyond my translation abilities)
4: Mission: Dragonballs! Pilaf Gang's Big Plan!
5: Battle in King Kai's Planet! Goku vs. God of Destruction Beerus!

If this is the case, I can see the reBOG lasting not all that long. Basically like a mini arc introducing a bigger problem. Think how the Gohan stuff became the tournament stuff became the babidi stuff with making vegeta became the buu arc.

I see it playing out like...

6. Beerus is coming to Earth!
7. Keep Lord Beerus happy Vegeta!!
8. Beerus decides to destroy the Earth. Buu won't share his pudding cup!
9. Goku arrives! Show me this SSJ God.
10. Beerus, Meet SSJ God Son Goku!!
11. You win!! I can't beat you Beerus!
12. Lord Beerus returns home, Vegeta and Goku want to train Whis!
13. Don't wake Lord Beerus! Train quietly!!
14. Meanwhile... A horrible wish has been made

Something like that. It's all going to lead into ROF relatively quickly I think. I think they'll draw that out a bit more though. But the huge arc will be the universe 6 stuff. My guess anyway.

[Ushabtis]

I'd say its safe to assume 13 episodes tops with BOG the anime. but man was hoping no more than 5

[Araki]

Naotoshi Shida's storyboard for Episode 2.

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

Those scenes with Bulma and Vegeta...this is gonna be great.
Vegeta seems to be wearing Hawaiian t-shirts in the lower shots.

I'd say its safe to assume 13 episodes tops with BOG the anime. but man was hoping no more than 5

Why make it shorter than the director's cut when they can take time to expand on it? It wouldn't make any sense.

[Basaku]

Why make it shorter than the director's cut when they can take time to expand on it? It wouldn't make any sense.

To leave any kind of reason to buy/watch movie DVDs/Blu-Rays lol? I already know I'm skipping on everything ROF cause there's little point with Super covering it soon and almost definitely in broader scope. I get why Toriyama/Toei wanted to retell and include both in Super arc but it does devalue the movies quite a lot

[JulieYBM]

If a retelling devalues something than it was never something you liked in the first place.

Anyway, it'll be interesting to see how things pan out. If Gokuu is defeated by Beers in Episode #5 I can't imagine how much further this Beers arc can be continued, unless we see Beers go to a world, fight its champion, win, and then destroy it or something.

[Basaku]

If a retelling devalues something than it was never something you liked in the first place.

That doesn't even make sense. It's a simple difference between more comprehensive telling of the same story. Theatrical cut of Lord of the Rings vs the original novel or at least the extended Director's Cut on DVD. Same core story, doesn't mean the theatrical cut never had value. But it's not the same as more complete version of the story

[JulieYBM]

If a retelling devalues something than it was never something you liked in the first place.

That doesn't even make sense. It's a simple difference between more comprehensive telling of the same story. Theatrical cut of Lord of the Rings vs the original novel or at least the extended Director's Cut on DVD. Same core story, doesn't mean the theatrical cut never had value. But it's not the same as more complete version of the story

More does not necessarily mean better, less does not necessarily mean better. Saying the movies are useless is like saying apples are useless because you now have grapes instead.

EDIT: I just remember, I guess that thing Shida was storyboarding in April was Dragon Ball Super Episode #2.

[irreality]

To leave any kind of reason to buy/watch movie DVDs/Blu-Rays lol? I already know I'm skipping on everything ROF cause there's little point with Super covering it soon and almost definitely in broader scope. I get why Toriyama/Toei wanted to retell and include both in Super arc but it does devalue the movies quite a lot

Some people might prefer to watch a condensed version with better footage or not buy a season of episodes. I bought BoG (and rented the extended version) and am seeing RoF in theaters. I'll also watch DBS on an official stream or official dub on broadcast whenever it comes out. But I'm unlikely to buy a season's worth of episodes, though, and I assume most people outside of hardcore fans don't buy hundreds of dollars worth of episode media.

Some people might also like having the option of having a condensed movie to show to family and friends to introduce them to DB quickly, too.

Actually, I always wish there were DBZ movies that were "highlights" of DBZ that I could use to introduce people to the series without making them watch like 200 episodes. Some of the non-Z DB movies can serve that function (Path to Power, or Mystical Adventure), but there is no real equivalent for DBZ.

[NeoKING]

Am I the only one who feels this stuff is too close to the movies? Like it's not even a retelling from the details we've been given and those story boards - it's a shot for shot copypasta.

[ArchedThunder]

Am I the only one who feels this stuff is too close to the movies? Like it's not even a retelling from the details we've been given and those story boards - it's a shot for shot copypasta.

We've barely seen anything.
Besides it looks like there will be changes, for one it seems that Bulma's birthday party is going to be on a cruise liner this time.

[SansrivaaL]

Taking the fact that Akira Toriyama's script on RF movie makes it look like his participation wasnt all that big, meaning he kinda did the same thing on BoG so Akira Toriyama probably didnt like how TOEI saw his script (probably the reason for this retelling and him making a ''thick plot'') more and more I'm starting to feel like this is the more canon ver and the movies were like semi canon ver.

[JulieYBM]

Am I the only one who feels this stuff is too close to the movies? Like it's not even a retelling from the details we've been given and those story boards - it's a shot for shot copypasta.

When were any of those scenes in the storyboards for Episode #2 in the movies?

[NeoKING]

Am I the only one who feels this stuff is too close to the movies? Like it's not even a retelling from the details we've been given and those story boards - it's a shot for shot copypasta.

We've barely seen anything.
Besides it looks like there will be changes, for one it seems that Bulma's birthday party is going to be on a cruise liner this time.

Wow, the setting is different. What a huge, huge difference this makes. Incentive to watch Super over BoG.

Am I the only one who feels this stuff is too close to the movies? Like it's not even a retelling from the details we've been given and those story boards - it's a shot for shot copypasta.

When were any of those scenes in the storyboards for Episode #2 in the movies?

Okay, no Vegeta family filler.

Still doesn't excuse the fact that those Beerus vs. Goku shots are taken straight from BoG, and I'm 95% sure you knew that that's what I was referring to, obvious as that was, but just wanted to have a smart-aleck response.

[Birusu16]

Am I the only one who feels this stuff is too close to the movies? Like it's not even a retelling from the details we've been given and those story boards - it's a shot for shot copypasta.

I'm perfectly happy with that. I never wanted a complete retelling of the movie(s).

[Baggie_Saiyan]

I get why Toriyama/Toei wanted to retell and include both in Super arc but it does devalue the movies quite a lot

Does it though? Does the Z anime devalue the Manga (they might tell the same story but they're a lot different)? Does the extended version of BoG devalue the theatrical version? Some people prefer the theatrical version. As others have said the movies have better and consistent animation and they're 90 minutes and cost half price (or more) of a 12- episode Super set (if we go by FUNi pricing), all the major plays are going to stay the they're just going to get to them a bit differently, and if we're lucky it might be better and if it's not then we have the movies to fall back on.

[Araki]

Still doesn't excuse the fact that those Beerus vs. Goku shots are taken straight from BoG, and I'm 95% sure you knew that that's what I was referring to, obvious as that was, but just wanted to have a smart-aleck response.

Except there are no Beerus vs Goku in those storyboards either. i have no idea where you're seeing copypasta.

And even a different setting by itself makes a difference already, they can't even recycle storyboards in this case.

[Birusu16]

Still doesn't excuse the fact that those Beerus vs. Goku shots are taken straight from BoG, and I'm 95% sure you knew that that's what I was referring to, obvious as that was, but just wanted to have a smart-aleck response.

Except there are no Beerus vs Goku in those storyboards either. i have no idea where you're seeing copypasta.

And even a different setting by itself makes a difference already, they can't even recycle storyboards in this case.

There actually was.

Spoiler:

Both of those shots are pretty much directly taken from BoGs, especially the top one. That happens during their fight in space where Beerus elbows Goku in the back. The other one looks eerily similar to the shot where Beerus elbows Goku in the face during their fight in the cave right after Goku loses his SSJG form in BoGs.

[Araki]

There actually was.

Spoiler:

Both of those shots are pretty much directly taken from BoGs, especially the top one. That happens during their fight in space where Beerus elbows Goku in the back. The other one looks eerily similar to the shot where Beerus elbows Goku in the face during their fight in the cave right after Goku loses his SSJG form in BoGs.

We were talking about the storyboards from episode #2. Those ones (which were not posted here before) don't specify whether they belong in Super. Note how they're not even complete storyboards, just individual pictures, unlike the ones seen from #2. So you can't actually claim they're using that, even less exactly like that.

[NeoKING]

Still doesn't excuse the fact that those Beerus vs. Goku shots are taken straight from BoG, and I'm 95% sure you knew that that's what I was referring to, obvious as that was, but just wanted to have a smart-aleck response.

Except there are no Beerus vs Goku in those storyboards either. i have no idea where you're seeing copypasta.

And even a different setting by itself makes a difference already, they can't even recycle storyboards in this case.

Nice try, but no.

[Araki]

Nice try, but no.

What a great answer, i'm glad you've convinced everyone now.