The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:23 am

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Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:28 am

When in doubt, go with the comic writers.
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Post by supercat » Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:10 am

Blocky wrote:Sounds like fun! Now here's more!

Hypothetical SSGSS3 Vegito vs Doctor Manhattan
Uub (EoZ) vs Android 16
Gaint Piccolo (Saiyan Sega) vs Nappa
Kid Gohan, Krillin and Vegeta (Freeza Sega) vs Freeza's Army (Resurrection F and no Shisami)
Master Roshi + Jaco Fusion Dance (Resurrection F) vs Nappa
Scarface & Shorty vs Raditz
Piccolo (Saiyan Sega) vs Tenshinhan, Krillin, Yamcha and Chiaotzu (Saiyan Sega)
Due to being pressed on time, I can only elaborate on a few of these.

-Uub (EoZ) vs Android 16
For this particular comparison, I'm going to assume the events of BoG and FnF did not take place before EoZ. In any case, enraged Uub should be somewhere in between Imperfect Cell on the low end, and Suppressed Perfect Cell on the much higher end of the spectrum.

*****After displaying a sudden outburst of profound anger, the boy viciously charges towards the artificial being. Sensing incredible levels of power on his scanners, Android 16 embraces himself for the attack. Despite realizing that his existence is in imminent danger, he can't seem to muster the will to mercilessly fight back against a mere child. His state of dilemma is forcefully interrupted with a bone shattering punch to his jaw. The sheer might of the attack sends the android skidding back on his feet, eventually throwing him off balance. As he winces in pain he realizes that the attack has left a large dent in his metallic face.

With one last ditch effort to subdue the boy, the damaged android launches his fist as a projectile and sends it flying towards his attacker. Unfazed, Uub angrily catches the flying fist while running and merely throws it behind him. With anger burning in his eyes he gets ready to turn the helpless android into scrap metal. He jumps in the air to deliver his final blow but is immediately restrained midair by Goku.

After jumping out of his teacher's arms, Uub apologizes for letting his anger get to him and hangs his head in shame.

While helping 16 up, Goku explains to him that Uub's innate power is triggered by his uncontrollable state of anger that he has been trying to help him harness. *****

A few key points:

-I just didn't have the heart to have 16 get killed off again! Regardless, the way I described Uub, you would wonder if he still holds a trace of Buu in him. :lol:

-It was either Uub or 16, and we all know that the peaceful nature of the latter would only allow him to display that extent of aggression towards an actual villain and possibly Goku, who ironically was the one to save him here.

-Giant Piccolo (Saiyan Saga) vs Nappa

With heightened levels of confidence Piccolo attempts to stomp Nappa, but misses miserably. Seeing an opening the Saiyan retaliates by firing a powerful ki blast aimed at Piccolo's chest . The attack, minuscule in size compared to the giant Namekian, has enough potency to send him crashing to the floor. Eager to secure his victory, Nappa flies full speed at Piccolo's stomach. However, before he gets the chance deliver the fatal blow, he is shot down from the sky by Gohan. Piccolo seizes the opportunity and launches a giant Makankosappo at his disoriented foe, thereby incinerating him.

-Kid Gohan, Krillin, and Vegeta (Freeza Sega) vs Freeza's Army (Resurrection F and no Shisami)

I don't think this one really needs a story behind it. As for the outcome, I'd say the odds are in the trio's favor if this is Vegeta after his Zenkai from Krillin's attack, and Gohan and Krillin have the same level of power that they did around the time they faced off against Final Form Frieza.

With that being the case, Vegeta and Gohan each should be able to soundly blitz through the vast majority of the mooks. Krillin's efforts would only supplement their advantage.

-Master Roshi + Jaco Fusion Dance (Resurrection F) vs Nappa

Both Jaco and Roshi (FnF) should individually be able to put up a great fight against Nappa, if not make quick work of him. The fusion would be absolute overkill.

-Scarface & Shorty vs Raditz

Tired of being categorized with such low class scum, Raditz challenges Scarface and Shorty. After having some initial fun tossing the duo around, Raditz proceeds to mercilessly decapitate Shorty and snap Scarface's neck from behind.

-Piccolo (Saiyan Sega) vs Tenshinhan, Krillin, Yamcha and Chiaotzu (Saiyan Saga)

After shedding himself of his weighted clothing, Piccolo sharply stares down at his opponents. Although standing their ground, the humans are clearly overwhelmed with apprehension. Yearning to show his former enemies that in no shape or form are they in league with him, Piccolo promptly dispatches each one with a debilitating blow before they even have the chance to showcase their power.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:11 am

Chaozu post 1 year vs. Yajirobe post 1 year

both Saiyan arc, when Vegeta and Nappa arrived.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by supercat » Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:20 am

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Chaozu post 1 year vs. Yajirobe post 1 year

both Saiyan arc, when Vegeta and Nappa arrived.
Yajirobe may have the sheer strength needed to physically out power Chaozu, but the latter's telekinetic abilities, flight, better manipulation of ki, and superior speed are all assets that'll likely bring him the victory here.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kaboom » Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:49 am

Blocky wrote:Majin LSSJ3 Broly (M10) vs Buuhan (with Janemba and Hirudegarn absorbed)
Great Ape SSJ2 Vegeta (Buu Sega) vs Kid Buu
Hypothetical SSJ4 Gotenks (Buu Sega) vs Buuhan
Yamllin (Krillin + Yamcha: Fusion Dance and Saiyan Sega) vs Nappa.
— We can't accurately guess how strong the "Majin" boost would make Broli, since it's based on dormant power, which is usually unpredictable. Personally, I think practically all of Broli's power is already on the surface by default, and he has very little that remains dormant. So he's moderately stronger than he'd normally be at Super Saiyan 3, which is only a bit stronger than SS3 Goku in my book. So regular Evil Boo can kick his ass, without anyone else absorbed.
— If we're just gonna slap the 10x Oozaru boost on top of Vegeta's SS2, then he becomes over twice as strong as SS3 Goku and is more than capable of wiping out Pure Boo. Boo doesn't know about the form's weaknesses, so he probably won't be able to do anything to prevent being defeated.
— Super Saiyan 4's power isn't really predictable, since GT and its books seem to imply it's an on-the-spot dormant power unlock. But whatever boost it may grant to Gotenks, I'd bet a dollar it's plenty more than the 3x or so power increase he'd need to surpass and defeat Gohan-Boo. So Gotenks wins as long as he doesn't screw around and get himself absorbed or something.
— Yamcha and Kuririn are similar enough in power for the Fusion Dance, but their big height difference would probably prevent them from performing it. But putting that aside and assuming it works... They're already not TOO far behind Nappa, between 1/3 and 1/2 of his power. I'm Fusion will be more than enough to leapfrog him in power and let them whoop his butt.
Blocky wrote:Jackie Chun VS Chiaotzu (22nd World Tournament)
Cooler VS Dr.Gero
Imperfect Cell VS Kogu
Tao Pai Pai VS Akkuman
Buuhan + SSJ Vegito Potara Fusion vs SSJ4 Goku (Baby Sega)
Goku (Saiyan Saga)- He can use up to Kaioken X5 vs Base Bardock (Episode of Bardock)
— I'm thinking Jackie Chun definitely wins. He's got a big advantage in power, and he's more than skilled and clever enough to counteract any of Chaozu's tricks.
— As long as Dr. Gero doesn't get to power up via absorptions, Coola wins this fight. And pretty brutally, too. I think 19 and 20 started out a good chunk weaker than 100% Freeza, whom Coola was stated to surpass with his transformation. ...You did mean transformed Coola, right? Regular Coola at 100% in his true form might have a harder time, but I still think he'd win.
— This is a pretty easy fight for Gokua. Super Saiyan Trunks, at least as strong if not stronger than he was at the Cell Games, had to struggle a bit to beat him. But we all saw how incredibly easily he destroyed Stage-1 Cell.
— I'm thinking there's a 50/50 chance that Tao Pai Pai will get caught by the Devilmite Beam and get asploded. If not, then he'll probably be able to pick Devilman apart.
— Super Vegetto alone is already on-par with SS4 Goku. Merging with Boo just makes the fight extremely unfair. Goku's gon' get wrecked.
— We've got no good way to guess how much more powerful Bardock became, if he did at all. But I'd be very surprised if he was pushing the 50,000 mark like Goku would be with a Kaio-Ken x5.
supercat wrote:Well Kaboom did encourage us to explain our view, so I figure it fits the setting :lol:
Damn right. You just carry right on with the mini-fanfic answers.
Blocky wrote:Hypothetical SSGSS3 Vegito vs Doctor Manhattan
Uub (EoZ) vs Android 16
Giant Piccolo (Saiyan Saga) vs Nappa
Kid Gohan, Krillin and Vegeta (Freeza Sega) vs Freeza's Army (Resurrection F and no Shisami)
Master Roshi + Jaco Fusion Dance (Resurrection F) vs Nappa
Scarface & Shorty vs Raditz
Piccolo (Saiyan Saga) vs Tenshinhan, Krillin, Yamcha and Chiaotzu (Saiyan Sega)
— Doctor Manhattan is broken and has abilities way beyond any of the brute-force fighters of Dragon Ball. It'd take someone wielding magic along with power to contend with him. Vegetto gets Rorschach'd.
— No good way to tell. Oob's power only came out in bursts that he couldn't fully control. It'd take a lot for him to get worked up to a fully Pure Boo level, and I'd bet 16 would be able to finish him before that happens.
— Hard to tell. I'm not sure if Piccolo's giant form is supposed to increase his actual power level by any appreciable amount, or just give him an extra edge in raw size and weight. Either way, since his power level isn't too far behind Nappa's (3,500 VS 4,000+), I think it'd actually give him the raw force advantage he'd need to overcome the Saiyan brute.
— I'm sure the team of heroes plus Vegeta are stronger than any of the soldiers... but odds are that the sheer number of them would overwhelm them eventually.
— This would be the most awesomely bizarre Fusion ever (and I want to draw it), and just because of that I'm going to say it kicks Nappa's ass.
— Are these the two simulated Saiyans that the Earthlings fought during their training filler? If they're supposed to be "average" like Raditz, then I guess they'd win because it's 2-against-1.
— I'm thinking the Earthlings win through teamwork and techniques, but they wouldn't have an easy time of it. Yamcha will probably be killed.
SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Chaozu post 1 year vs. Yajirobe post 1 year. Both Saiyan arc, when Vegeta and Nappa arrived.
Could go either way. Yajirobe has a raw power advantage (970 VS 610), but he's got no aptitude in using his ki for anything but brute force melee, so he might be outmaneuvered by Chaozu's tricks and special abilities.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Captain Space » Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:27 am

TheGmGoken wrote:
Goku vs Hal Jordan (New 52)
Honestly, as of the BoG/RF stuff they're probably at similar levels if we go by some of Beerus/Whis' feats and Goku being in the vague vicinity of their power. But a Green Lantern ring isn't pure power; it's one of the most diverse power-sets you can find. Hal can find a way.
SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Chaozu post 1 year vs. Yajirobe post 1 year

both Saiyan arc, when Vegeta and Nappa arrived.
Chaozu; Yajirobe has no defence against telekinesis. As for power...well, we know Yajirobe was stronger as of the King Piccolo arc, but after that all we have is Kami saying they all surpassed him, and then Chaozu making it to Kaio's faster than Goku. Somehow I don't see Yajirobe doing that, even if he actually applied himself (and honestly, in the manga he's not nearly as lazy as filler makes him out to be).
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Post by pacz360 » Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:21 am

TheGmGoken wrote:
Goku vs Hal Jordan (New 52)
What new 52 jordan feats?

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BrolyLSSJ wrote:Archie Super Sonic Vs Current DBZ?
You really hate current db don't you?
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Post by Blocky » Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:30 pm

Super 17 (possessed by Baby and post-KKx10) vs SSJ4 Vegeta
Kid Buu (with Kibito Kai and Babidi absorbed) vs SSJ3 Goku
Demon God Demigra (Final Form) vs Omega Shenron
Gear 4 Luffy vs King Piccolo
Everyone from Dragon Ball (from Pilaf Saga to Piccolo Jr. Saga) vs Radiz
Krillin (When he fight against Guldo) vs Kid Vegeta
LSSJ2 Bio-Broly vs SSJ Goten and Trunks
Veku vs Yamcha (Android sega)
SSJ Goku (Dragonball Super) vs SPC
SSJ3 Evil DBH Bardock vs Whis
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Post by Captain Space » Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:47 pm

To Blocky's post above me:

Super 17 (possessed by Baby and post-KKx10) vs SSJ4 Vegeta: Super 17. Even without those buffs he was outfighting a SSJ4.

Kid Buu (with Kibito Kai and Babidi absorbed) vs SSJ3 Goku: Kid Buu. He was arguably more than Goku could handle anyway, and these would give him a little bit of power, but more importantly intelligence and magical abilities.

Demon God Demigra (Final Form) vs Omega Shenron: Omega Shenron, going by Xenoverse's in-game logic and what levels it generally makes them. Plus Omega has hax abilities and Demigra, in his final form, doesn't to nearly that extent.

Gear 4 Luffy vs King Piccolo: King Piccolo, unless you can show me Luffy blowing up the moon.

Everyone from Dragon Ball (from Pilaf Saga to Piccolo Jr. Saga) vs Radiz: The team. Too many crazy special abilities; one or another will do the trick, or Raditz will just run out of stamina.

Krillin (When he fight against Guldo) vs Kid Vegeta: Krillin. He was already able to take on multiple Saibamen in the saiyan saga, which is Kid Vegeta's only showing. Then Krillin got the power-unlock and shot up to over 10,000...

LSSJ2 Bio-Broly vs SSJ Goten and Trunks: How does that even work? Was Bio-Broly in an SSJ form to begin with?

Veku vs Yamcha (Android): As in android-17-Yamcha from Dragon Ball Multiverse? If not, "android" isn't really specific enough (consider the differences between 19, 18, 16, Cell...).

SSJ Goku (Dragonball Super) vs SPC: Uh...maybe Cell, at a guess? I'm not 100% on this one...

SSJ3 Evil Bardock vs Whis: As in just an evil Bardock (in which case, Whis), or the evil Heroes version of Bardock who was apparently smacking around SSJ4's in base (in which case, Bardock)?
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Post by ZombieVito » Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:57 pm

Well since these two are canon now, new battles:

Black vs Caroni.
Killer vs Caroni.
Jewel vs Caroni.

Punter vs Pirozhki
Jewel vs Pirozhki
Killer vs Pirozhki

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Post by Blocky » Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:01 pm

Captain Space wrote: Veku vs Yamcha (Android): As in android-17-Yamcha from Dragon Ball Multiverse? If not, "android" isn't really specific enough (consider the differences between 19, 18, 16, Cell...).
I mean Android sega.

And yes, It's the evil DBH one, Bio-Broly was having LSSJ hair and how KP able to bust moons? Wasn't Roshi's Moon busting thing was a outiler?

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Blocky wrote:
Captain Space wrote: Veku vs Yamcha (Android): As in android-17-Yamcha from Dragon Ball Multiverse? If not, "android" isn't really specific enough (consider the differences between 19, 18, 16, Cell...).
I mean Android sega.

And yes, It's the evil DBH one, Bio-Broly was having LSSJ hair and how KP able to bust moons? Wasn't Roshi's Moon busting thing was a outiler?
Oh, right. Probably Veku, to be honest, then.

And in that case Bardock wins for sure, and Bio-Broly wins in a straight-up fight but loses if they splash him a bit.

"Outlier" is a silly argument. He did it. It happened. Roshi blew up the moon. It wasn't a one-off gag, it was a plot point which affected his fight and had callbacks in two subsequent arcs.
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Post by Blocky » Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:10 pm

Captain Space wrote:
Blocky wrote:
Captain Space wrote: Veku vs Yamcha (Android): As in android-17-Yamcha from Dragon Ball Multiverse? If not, "android" isn't really specific enough (consider the differences between 19, 18, 16, Cell...).
I mean Android sega.

And yes, It's the evil DBH one, Bio-Broly was having LSSJ hair and how KP able to bust moons? Wasn't Roshi's Moon busting thing was a outiler?
Oh, right. Probably Veku, to be honest, then.

And in that case Bardock wins for sure, and Bio-Broly wins in a straight-up fight but loses if they splash him a bit.

"Outlier" is a silly argument. He did it. It happened. Roshi blew up the moon. It wasn't a one-off gag, it was a plot point which affected his fight and had callbacks in two subsequent arcs.
Didn't KP gotten tried after he use out two city busting ki attacks and yet he's still beyond Roshi

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Post by Captain Space » Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:28 pm

Blocky wrote:
Didn't KP gotten tried after he use out two city busting ki attacks and yet he's still beyond Roshi
Evidently they contained more destructive power within that smaller area. It's like comparing an armour-piercing round to a scattershot type deal.

(i.e. if it was just the size of destruction that counted, no way Frieza's death beam would ever kill anybody.)
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Doctor. » Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:34 pm

Nappa's blast when he arrived on Earth covered an area that would hit multiple countries. Later, when he uses it again against Goku, it would be the size of a few houses at best. Yet, without a doubt, the latter blast must have been stronger.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by AvatarReiko » Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:57 pm

EoS Krillin, Yamcha vs Planet Vegeta

BOG SSJ2 Vegeta vs Buutenks

Note: Vegeta is not eneraged.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:03 pm

AvatarReiko wrote:BOG SSJ2 Vegeta vs Buutenks

Note: Vegeta is not eneraged.
Gotenks-Boo spits out Gotenks, Gotenks reverts to Base form, and single-shots Vegeta. What is there indicating Vegeta got that strong in 5 years?

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