A Saiyan's Transformation Tree

[Hitiro]

That's illogical because you can be righteous without having every facet of your life be good. Piccolo's logic doesn't make sense unless he meant something like pure hearted. Because as far as I'm aware, just having a girl friend at a young age shouldn't invalidate someone being a righteous person. But it would possibly invalidate a person from being pure-hearted.

So, what do you want me to do? Rewrite the movie because it goes against your opinion of what makes someone righteous in a gag scene?

What was said was it takes Good-hearted Saiyan's. In my book that is a pure heart. Honestly it makes no sense otherwise. Anybody can be righteous, even people who have been villainous. Even excluding the gag scene there is talk between the characters as the ritual takes place about Vegeta. It shouldn't matter at that point because all that matters would be that he is righteous in that moment, his bad deeds before shouldn't matter. We also have the fact that he is considered a good guy when he is brought back in the Boo arc. So their statements would hold no weight unless it is on about good in the strictest of sense. Which would be a pure hearted person.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Herms just translated the full Chozenshu entry for Super Saiyan God over in the translation thread:

• Super Saiyan-Derived Technique:
  Super Saiyan God*
  People: Son Goku
  Characteristics: The condition is that 6 Saiyans with righteous hearts must be assembled. It is then created when 5 of the righteous Saiyans send their ki into the remaining one. In the film “Battle of Gods”, Goku became Super Saiyan God when he received ki from Gohan, Goten, Trunks, Vegeta, and Pan inside Videl’s womb. He powers up to such an extent that he far surpasses Super Saiyan 3, his hair becomes red, and his body becomes somewhat slender.

[Hitiro]

Herms just translated the full Chozenshu entry for Super Saiyan God over in the translation thread:

• Super Saiyan-Derived Technique:
  Super Saiyan God*
  People: Son Goku
  Characteristics: The condition is that 6 Saiyans with righteous hearts must be assembled. It is then created when 5 of the righteous Saiyans send their ki into the remaining one. In the film “Battle of Gods”, Goku became Super Saiyan God when he received ki from Gohan, Goten, Trunks, Vegeta, and Pan inside Videl’s womb. He powers up to such an extent that he far surpasses Super Saiyan 3, his hair becomes red, and his body becomes somewhat slender.

I don't see why they made so much of a deal with Vegeta being bad then. Because it's not about being a good person in that case. Just doing the right thing in that single instance.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

What was said was it takes Good-hearted Saiyan's. In my book that is a pure heart. Honestly it makes no sense otherwise. Anybody can be righteous, even people who have been villainous. Even excluding the gag scene there is talk between the characters as the ritual takes place about Vegeta. It shouldn't matter at that point because all that matters would be that he is righteous in that moment, his bad deeds before shouldn't matter. We also have the fact that he is considered a good guy when he is brought back in the Boo arc. So their statements would hold no weight unless it is on about good in the strictest of sense. Which would be a pure hearted person.

If they were talking about pure-heart (which they don't, as TheDevilsCorpse just proved), how would Vegeta be able to participate? This is what doesn't make sense about pure-heart, Vegeta doesn't have one, he is still a merciless killer as we saw in FnF. The reasons you mentioned about Vegeta being righteous is exactly why Vegeta was capable of participating in the ritual, which we were also told in the movie.

[Hitiro]

If they were talking about pure-heart (which they don't, as TheDevilsCorpse just proved), how would Vegeta be able to participate? This is what doesn't make sense about pure-heart, Vegeta doesn't have one, he is still a merciless killer as we saw in FnF. The reasons you mentioned about Vegeta being righteous is exactly why Vegeta was capable of participating in the ritual, which we were also told in the movie.

Goku has killed tons before he went up against Akkuman and his beam had no effect on Goku and he maintains the ability to ride a cloud that only people of pure heart can ride. Gohan also killed Cell yet he can still ride Kinto'un. Killing someone does not automatically a bad guy in this story. Vegeta would still be in the right for killing Freeza for several reasons. He could easily be trying to spare the universe from his terror yet again. So I don't see why Vegeta couldn't participate now.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Goku has killed tons before he went up against Akkuman and his beam had no effect on Goku and he maintains the ability to ride a cloud that only people of pure heart can ride. Gohan also killed Cell yet he can still ride Kinto'un. Killing someone does not automatically a bad guy in this story. Vegeta would still be in the right for killing Freeza for several reasons. He could easily be trying to spare the universe from his terror yet again. So I don't see why Vegeta couldn't participate now.

Goku was an uneducated idiot, and Gohan had no choice. Vegeta kills because he likes it. He has turned into a good guy now, but he doesn't have a pure heart.