"(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:21 am

Updated the post with more information now that the PV is out.
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Post by DNA » Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:11 am

Huh, General Bon is a surprise... And he seems to be quite showcased if he's just going to be an enemy with no cards.

So far these are the guys with no cards and that are barely acknowledged:

Majin Ginger, Nikky and Sansho
Majin Zeeun, Angila, Medamatcha and Dorodabo
Majin Dr. Raichi
Majin Gokua, Bido, Zangya and Bujin
Hakaio Hirudegarn
Shadow Goku

The wiki mentions a Hakaio Broli Legendary Super Saiyan? Is that a thing? And wasn't there a Majin Paragus as well?

Also, at 3:28~29 looks like Yamcha is using the Kaioken; which was a thing in Xenoverse, along with Kuririn. Kuririn with Kaioken actually comes all the way back from Supersonic Warriors.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:55 pm

Hakaio LSS Broli is a thing, and Yamcha is just in a stun animation. His face icon isn't red/purple or whatever like Kaioken Goku's is when the card is played.
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Post by DNA » Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:12 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Hakaio LSS Broli is a thing, and Yamcha is just in a stun animation. His face icon isn't red/purple or whatever like Kaioken Goku's is when the card is played.
So other than the ones I listed, is there anyone else? Do you have any footage of Hakaio Broli?

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:16 pm

DNA wrote:Huh, General Bon is a surprise... And he seems to be quite showcased if he's just going to be an enemy with no cards.

So far these are the guys with no cards and that are barely acknowledged:

Majin Ginger, Nikky and Sansho
Majin Zeeun, Angila, Medamatcha and Dorodabo
Majin Dr. Raichi
Majin Gokua, Bido, Zangya and Bujin
Hakaio Hirudegarn
Shadow Goku

The wiki mentions a Hakaio Broli Legendary Super Saiyan? Is that a thing? And wasn't there a Majin Paragus as well?

Also, at 3:28~29 looks like Yamcha is using the Kaioken; which was a thing in Xenoverse, along with Kuririn. Kuririn with Kaioken actually comes all the way back from Supersonic Warriors.
Didn't the Hakaios have the ability to turn anyone into Majin? If so, the Majins that you listed shouldn't get cards, since everyone should get one, right?
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:34 pm

No, the CAA possession mechanic is just a temporary thing, unlike the actual Majin characters (with the M) that DNA listed.

And no, I don't have a video of Hakaio LSS Broli. It's just Broli with an M on him and less hair than the other version.
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Post by DNA » Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:58 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:No, the CAA possession mechanic is just a temporary thing, unlike the actual Majin characters (with the M) that DNA listed.

And no, I don't have a video of Hakaio LSS Broli. It's just Broli with an M on him and less hair than the other version.
Dunno what else I expected :P

So that's it, right? No Four Monarchs, no Tullece Corps, no #14 and #15 and no Paragus.

I re-added all the entries for those ones, plus the missing Hakaio and Shadow Goku, I just used the spare squares instead of creating new rows for blank spaces.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:37 pm

Not that we saw in the respective mission set (though Hakaio LSS Broli was in the one after?).

Early, early leak of one of the SECs (no, not Mira yet). It's just SS3 Bardock though, which was already ruined by the V-Jump announcement of him also being a promo for this month. Though I will say this art looks better than the promo version...

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Post by DNA » Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:51 pm

Damn, now he looks really bad ass in that artwork. Definitely much better than the first leaked card.

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Post by BlazingBarrrager » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:44 pm

DNA wrote:Damn, now he looks really bad ass in that artwork. Definitely much better than the first leaked card.
I second this. If Dimps is going to go nuts with these what-ifs, then they at least need to make them look good.

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Post by DNA » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:50 pm

I mean, other than Trunks Future, all the other ones look bland in my opinion. Well, him and Broli, I still think he look simply brutal.

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Post by Dbzejo » Fri Jul 10, 2015 7:03 pm

Whats the big deal with db heroes anyway? Its a freackin card game with cool trailers that are used in AMVs all the time! Fanservice, i guess?

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Post by DNA » Fri Jul 10, 2015 7:12 pm

Dbzejo wrote:Whats the big deal with db heroes anyway? Its a freackin card game with cool trailers that are used in AMVs all the time! Fanservice, i guess?
I guess? Cool trailers, fan service, great artwork for old and new characters. What's the point in you coming here dissing the game anyway?

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Post by Dbzejo » Fri Jul 10, 2015 7:15 pm

DNA wrote:
Dbzejo wrote:Whats the big deal with db heroes anyway? Its a freackin card game with cool trailers that are used in AMVs all the time! Fanservice, i guess?
I guess? Cool trailers, fan service, great artwork for old and new characters. What's the point in you coming here dissing the game anyway?
I'm not dissing the game, i just wanted to see why its so popular, because i saw it pop up quite a few times, thats all.

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Post by DNA » Fri Jul 10, 2015 7:26 pm

Dbzejo wrote:I'm not dissing the game, i just wanted to see why its so popular, because i saw it pop up quite a few times, thats all.
I mean, for me personally, I love getting artwork for old characters and characters that don't have any good artwork. Also we get some cool new forms every now and then.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Jul 10, 2015 7:47 pm

Previously it was basically just the prospect of new forms and "characters" (avatars) for me. But now, it's the fact that Heroes kinda has a "story" with the DBO and Xenoverse inspired Makai Arc. I love me some new plot elements, regardless of medium.
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Post by UpFromTheSkies » Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:01 pm

Dbzejo wrote:Whats the big deal with db heroes anyway? Its a freackin card game with cool trailers that are used in AMVs all the time! Fanservice, i guess?
It may sound boring, but the game is extremely fun and addictive.

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Post by BlazingBarrrager » Sat Jul 11, 2015 2:05 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Previously it was basically just the prospect of new forms and "characters" (avatars) for me. But now, it's the fact that Heroes kinda has a "story" with the DBO and Xenoverse inspired Makai Arc. I love me some new plot elements, regardless of medium.
Story huh? I'll need to check into that.

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Post by DNA » Sat Jul 11, 2015 4:06 pm

BlazingBarrrager wrote:
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Previously it was basically just the prospect of new forms and "characters" (avatars) for me. But now, it's the fact that Heroes kinda has a "story" with the DBO and Xenoverse inspired Makai Arc. I love me some new plot elements, regardless of medium.
Story huh? I'll need to check into that.
The game always had kind of a story, but it's more like plot points really. Like that time where there was a full fledged war between the Saiyans and the Freeza Army and the Heroes were involved. Or when there was a full swarm of Saibaimen.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sat Jul 11, 2015 4:19 pm

Ehhh, every once in a while, maybe. They've certainly been getting more story oriented as the series has evolved (especially in God Mission with the Timeline set ups for the mission screens). There was a general theme to most missions prior to this, but I wouldn't say most of the missions had the same sort of solid "story" like there is now. Before, we'd get a plot point, and then half the missions on the set's mission screen would have nothing to do with it. Not counting the boss missions, which are self contained, we're usually shown material that's like "this set is about the space pirate Bojack" and then half the missions end up being stuff like "fight 5 forms of Goku", "defeat Tao Pai Pai and Murasaki", etc.

For the Makai Arc, we're getting a subset of missions each set that tell a specific progression of events that's actually being addressed properly by the website. Unlike anything before this, they even put up a page on the site specifically for the Makai Arc with character bios for Trunks: Xeno, Masked Saiyan and Mira over the last two sets (possibly more incoming with GDM3 revealing that's Bardock and adding Time Kaioshin and Towa). There's absolutely nothing new on said page that we didn't already know from DBO or Xenoverse though, but it is there. xD
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