"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Fri Jul 10, 2015 8:07 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
Chuquita wrote:I do want to see Kakarrotto and Princess Vegeta in Uni 6, or a taller handsome character who tries to steal Vegeta's position as Gokû's rival away from him, but as there are no promises I can't let myself get too attached to the ideas. >_>
I hear Broly is free, seems to fit your description perfectly, :P On that note I wonder what a Toriyama written Broly would be like?
Actually, a Toriyama-written Brolli fitting that position has entertainment potential imo; I feel like he'd have a lot more quirkiness/more notes to his character than regular-crazy-Brolli. Also, Brolli's almost humorously taller than Vegeta; and Vegeta's tsundere nature would conflict with his ability to protest the situation about Gokû. I would watch this.
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Chuquita wrote:Re: inter uni police

I instantly picture Gokû and Vegeta on the run from Super's own version of Zenigata. XD
Goku and Vegeta: Interdimensional master (cough) criminals.

This should be a thing.
It'd be fun. X3 Vegeta'd have to keep this person off their tails and keep track of Gokû at the same time. X3

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Toonami97 » Fri Jul 10, 2015 8:13 pm

Here's what I think Vegeta will do on this family trip


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHKotCnjYow

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by fadeddreams5 » Fri Jul 10, 2015 8:41 pm

Toonami97 wrote:Here's what I think Vegeta will do on this family trip


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHKotCnjYow
Here's what I'm hoping he does by the end of the trip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIeWhZ0 ... be&t=6m23s

Up to 6:31.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Mewzard » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:29 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:Here's what I'm hoping he does by the end of the trip:
All I want is for it to be a nightmare trip and to get something long these lines from National Lampoon's Vacation from Vegeta:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GQSwMCHJNU#t=25s

It would be the best thing to happen.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Toonami97 » Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:47 pm

Want an Asprin Vegeta

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by FutureGohanSSJ2 » Sat Jul 11, 2015 3:06 am

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TheGmGoken wrote:What if U6 was the manga universe or the GT universe?
This isn't DC or Marvel. All the miscellaneous adaptations or movies or non-canon sequels aren't alternate universes. They're just...not a thing that happened.
They're all alternate timelines in Universe 7, as the Chozenshu basically tells us all adventures (prior to the Universe 6 Arc) happen there. It doesn't specify only things in this continuity or that continuity happened there, it counts everything that was an adventure with Goku and co.
No. The movies didn't happen in Universe 7. GT didn't happen in Universe 7. The manga doesn't have some separate universe from the anime. This isn't Turtles in Time. This isn't Crisis on Infinite Earths. Some things, such as the movies and GT, just: Didn't happen. They're not some alternate universe. They're not an alternate timeline. They just never happened.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Sora Saiyan » Sat Jul 11, 2015 3:14 am

TheGmGoken wrote:What if U6 was the manga universe or the GT universe?
Well to me Super is a continuation of the manga, taking the place of BoG and F, so the first one would be impossible. I think the other Universes are gonna have their own original characters instead of just a GT Universes and so on.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sat Jul 11, 2015 3:24 am

FutureGohanSSJ2 wrote:No. The movies didn't happen in Universe 7. GT didn't happen in Universe 7. The manga doesn't have some separate universe from the anime. This isn't Turtles in Time. This isn't Crisis on Infinite Earths. Some things, such as the movies and GT, just: Didn't happen. They're not some alternate universe. They're not an alternate timeline. They just never happened.
The Chozenshu acknowledge these alternate stories as happening in Universe 7 like all the other Goku and co tales. Even things like Neko Majin, but in some parallel world that's not within the continuity of the manga.

You don't have to accept it if you don't want to, but the information in the guides is what it is.
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Post by FutureGohanSSJ2 » Sat Jul 11, 2015 3:53 am

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
FutureGohanSSJ2 wrote:No. The movies didn't happen in Universe 7. GT didn't happen in Universe 7. The manga doesn't have some separate universe from the anime. This isn't Turtles in Time. This isn't Crisis on Infinite Earths. Some things, such as the movies and GT, just: Didn't happen. They're not some alternate universe. They're not an alternate timeline. They just never happened.
The Chozenshu acknowledge these alternate stories as happening in Universe 7 like all the other Goku and co tales. Even things like Neko Majin, but in some parallel world that's not within the continuity of the manga.

You don't have to accept it if you don't want to, but the information in the guides is what it is.
Really? I'd like to see that. Word for word, please.

Why can't something just not exist, anymore? Hell, why stop here? Let's have Universe 5 be the Dragon Ball Evolution universe. And Universe 4 can be the Xenoverse universe. So on and so forth. Why can't things just be something stupid that was made that has no merit on the series itself? Why does it always have to be some sort of alternate timeline?

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by emperior » Sat Jul 11, 2015 5:59 am

Because Future Trunks exists, and there is a movie on his future's story (which in my opinion is canon, since it doesn't contradict anything)
So alternate timelines exist and each movie takes place in another timeline, as well as GT which looks to be what would happen if Beerus never woke up.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Captain Space » Sat Jul 11, 2015 6:11 am

emperior wrote:Because Future Trunks exists, and there is a movie on his future's story (which in my opinion is canon, since it doesn't contradict anything)
So alternate timelines exist and each movie takes place in another timeline, as well as GT which looks to be what would happen if Beerus never woke up.
Pretty sure it does in fact contradict the manga special chapter (in that the TV special has him going SSJ when future Gohan dies, whereas in the manga he's already SSJ as a kid training with Gohan).
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by rolmanus » Sat Jul 11, 2015 6:53 am

So I haven't had the time to write my thoughts on the series this week, but here are my feelings, thoughts about the future of DBS (the ones that I haven't seen here already):

I very much Think Super will go on for more than the three arcs announced so far. If they only wanted to tell te story of universe 6 and the Super Dragon Balls, they could've done it in another movie. It doesn't really worth the effort to retell two arcs juts to tell one more. I'd be dissapointed if the creators would prove me wrong.

I believe Champa will be written in to the expanded BoG arc, and they will meet him before the resurrection of Frieza. I actually think he might be the opponent who will be the reason Vegeta gets to be a god, as Goku promised him after Beerus that next time it's his turn. It'd be awesome to finally see Vegeta in the spotlight for some time, and have him beat a meaningful opponent, or at least put up a good fight.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Stevenseagal » Sat Jul 11, 2015 6:58 am



nope false alarm, picture from heroes
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by ArchedThunder » Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:11 am

Stevenseagal wrote:Credit to cheetah king on Deviantart for this, dunno if it's been posted yet, Potential spoilers for later episode

Think this picture is legit??
It's not from Super, it's from a Dragon Ball Heroes trailer.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Stevenseagal » Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:17 am

ArchedThunder wrote:
Stevenseagal wrote:Credit to cheetah king on Deviantart for this, dunno if it's been posted yet, Potential spoilers for later episode

Think this picture is legit??
It's not from Super, it's from a Dragon Ball Heroes trailer.

Ah thanks for the quick reaction, will remove it then.

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Post by MaGyunia » Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:24 am

TheGmGoken wrote:What if U6 was the manga universe or the GT universe?
I agree with all the previous responses and reactions to this.

The events depicted throughout the 153 episodes of DB and the 291 episodes of DBZ need to be seen as a continuous sequence of the one and only timeline.
GT, the 4 DB movies and the 13 DBZ movies don't "happen" in a different timeline or in an alternate universe, they're rather side-stories which depict "what-if" scenarios. They were also made to explore interesting new characters and circumstances with some potential in terms of background and character development. In actual fact, the only movies from the 13 DBZ ones that COULD fit into the series' main timeline without causing any inconsistencies or plot holes would be movies 9 (right after the Cell Games, and I mean right after it, as Goku's still with Kaiou-sama in the Snake Way) and 13 (soon after Kid Buu's defeat).

All the others WOULD have "happened" in the following circumstances:
Movie 1 - It WOULD have happened slightly before the arrival of Raditz on Earth.
Movie 2 - It WOULD have happened IF Goku had beaten Vegeta and Nappa in the Saiya-jin arc, since he uses Kaio Ken in the movie.
Movie 3 - IF there had been an additional Saiya-jin to have survived the genocide of the race and the destruction of Planet Vegeta and later came to Earth to find Kakarotto. It WOULD have taken place IF Goku had beaten Vegeta and Nappa in the Saiya-jin arc before Tenshinhan, Yamcha, Chaozu and Piccolo died.
Movie 4 - IF there had been an additional Namek-sei-jin who survived the extreme weather conditions on the planet that led to Piccolo being sent to Earth and IF Goku and the others somehow had managed to either beat Freeza after Piccolo is resurrected and Vegeta dies but before he became a full-fledged Super Saiya-jin or had left Namek before that, for some reason.
Movie 5 - IF Cooler ever existed and Goku had somehow beaten Freeza on Namek without having become a full-fledged Super Saiya-jin. It WOULD take place in the 3 year gap between Mirai no Trunks' first arrival from the future and the appearance of #19 and Dr. Gero, since Goku has already returned to Earth.
Movie 6 - IF Cooler ever existed. It WOULD take place right before the Jinzouningen arc, in the 3 year gap between Mirai no Trunks' first arrival from the future and the appearance of #19 and Dr. Gero
Movie 7 - IF the only two Jinzouningen which actually ever existed had been #19 and Dr. Gero (no #16, no #17, no #18, no Cell), and after either Goku or Vegeta and Piccolo had beaten them. It would have happened right after that.
Movie 8 - IF two additional Saiya-jin had survived the genocide of the race and the destruction of Planet Vegeta, and IF one of them WOULD just happen to be the Legendary Super Saiya-jin. It WOULD have happened if Paragas came to Earth during the 10 day-period between Cell's announcement of the Cell Games and the Cell Games themselves, after Goku and Gohan leave the RoSaT, since Gohan is a Super Saiya-jin.
Movie 10 - IF Brolly ever existed and had come to Earth. It WOULD have taken place during the period of time Gohan trains Videl and Goten.
Movie 11 - IF Brolly ever existed. It WOULD have taken place right after the previous movie (and after the Tenkaichi Budokai that led to the Majin Buu arc, but without the arc itself ever happening, as there WOULD have had been a Tenkaichi Budokai which for some reason had a final in which #18 lets Mr. Satan win in exchange for quite a large sum of money).
Movie 12 - IF Goku had defeated Majin Buu in his fat form and had returned to the other world, since both Goku and Vegeta are dead (the latter after blowing himself up against Majin Buu)

Both the Bardock special and the Trunks special depict events which happened off-screen in DBZ's storyline (in Trunks' movie case, before he decided to go back in the past to warn Goku and the others about the Jinzouningen, which generated a different timeline - pretty much similar to what happened in Back to the Future 2)

The 2008 special, BoG and Fukkatsu no F were up until very recently considered to be follow-up continuations of DBZ's main, one and only timeline, and the 2008 special by itself can still be considered to be canon, as there's nothing there that contradicts what we've been seeing or hearing about in DBSuper, but BoG and Fukkatsu no F have also been basically turned into side-stories which are going to be retold, with the introduction of the same characters and stages but at a different timing and in different circumstances.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Captain Space » Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:37 am

MaGyunia wrote: Movie 6 - IF Cooler ever existed. It WOULD take place right before the Jinzouningen arc, in the 3 year gap between Mirai no Trunks' first arrival from the future and the appearance of #19 and Dr. Gero
Not quite--Piccolo is already fused with Kami in the movie, and Dende is the new Kami of Earth.

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Movie 12 - IF Goku had defeated Majin Buu in his fat form and had returned to the other world, since both Goku and Vegeta are dead (the latter after blowing himself up against Majin Buu)[/quote]

If that had happened, there'd be no Gotenks and mystic Gohan, both of whom are in the movie.

Other than that, your assessments are all accurate, though.
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Post by MaGyunia » Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:42 am

Captain Space wrote:
MaGyunia wrote: Movie 6 - IF Cooler ever existed. It WOULD take place right before the Jinzouningen arc, in the 3 year gap between Mirai no Trunks' first arrival from the future and the appearance of #19 and Dr. Gero
Not quite--Piccolo is already fused with Kami in the movie, and Dende is the new Kami of Earth.
Movie 12 - IF Goku had defeated Majin Buu in his fat form and had returned to the other world, since both Goku and Vegeta are dead (the latter after blowing himself up against Majin Buu)[/quote]

If that had happened, there'd be no Gotenks and mystic Gohan, both of whom are in the movie.

Other than that, your assessments are all accurate, though.[/quote]

You're right, I screwed up on those 2. I made this up in a rush, though. I'll come up with the circumstances in which those 2 WOULD have been possible after giving it some thought.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Barunks » Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:18 am

FutureGohanSSJ2 wrote:
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
FutureGohanSSJ2 wrote:No. The movies didn't happen in Universe 7. GT didn't happen in Universe 7. The manga doesn't have some separate universe from the anime. This isn't Turtles in Time. This isn't Crisis on Infinite Earths. Some things, such as the movies and GT, just: Didn't happen. They're not some alternate universe. They're not an alternate timeline. They just never happened.
The Chozenshu acknowledge these alternate stories as happening in Universe 7 like all the other Goku and co tales. Even things like Neko Majin, but in some parallel world that's not within the continuity of the manga.

You don't have to accept it if you don't want to, but the information in the guides is what it is.
Really? I'd like to see that. Word for word, please.

Why can't something just not exist, anymore? Hell, why stop here? Let's have Universe 5 be the Dragon Ball Evolution universe. And Universe 4 can be the Xenoverse universe. So on and so forth. Why can't things just be something stupid that was made that has no merit on the series itself? Why does it always have to be some sort of alternate timeline?
You seem to have such an obsessive dislike for the movies/GT that it's starting to seem kind of unhealthy.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by eledoremassis02 » Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:40 am

What about the movie verse? Or possible one where Goku and Vegeta are still evil? Or Daburas universe?

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