"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Captain Space » Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:57 am

eledoremassis02 wrote:What about the movie verse? Or possible one where Goku and Vegeta are still evil? Or Daburas universe?
Well, specifically for the last one, Dabura's home realm is actually a part of the 'main' universe (it's sort of sitting at the bottom of the giant sphere that's usually used to represent the DB cosmos).
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Post by Michelle91 » Sat Jul 11, 2015 10:16 am

Super made Movie 13 no longer fit given how Super is set 6 months after Buu and they just used the Dragon Balls four months after Kid Buu's defeat. Meaning that Super is set two months after the last wish was used. No way that they can get the Dragon Balls back to normal after so soon. In 1995 - 2014, Movie 13 could have taken place a year after Buu.
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Post by Noah » Sat Jul 11, 2015 10:52 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:Super made Movie 13 no longer fit given how Super is set 6 months after Buu and they just used the Dragon Balls four months after Kid Buu's defeat. Meaning that Super is set two months after the last wish was used. No way that they can get the Dragon Balls back to normal after so soon. In 1995 - 2014, Movie 13 could have taken place a year after Buu.
Movie 14 and probably Movie 15 too :lol:
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Michelle91 » Sat Jul 11, 2015 11:08 am

Yeah given how Super is going to retell those two movies. I think Movie 9 is the only DBZ movie that can fit into the timeline now.
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Post by MaGyunia » Sat Jul 11, 2015 2:15 pm

I bet you we'll see some Vegeta anger in a matter of hours.

By the beginning of the Majin Buu arc he's already a family man but still has a lot of anger deep down inside of him, but his decision to let Babidi control him and kill hundreds of people at the stadium was probably the last instance of really evil stuff done by Vegeta. After the Majin Buu arc, the transition is complete. However, the fact that he has become a family guy and one of the "good ones" fighting for good and out of love and sense of protection of his family, "friends" and life in general shouldn't mean he's lost his character and the way he interacts with others or presents himself and now become Mr. Nice Guy all of a sudden. That's never going to happen, it wouldn't be Vegeta if it did. Piccolo never has or will lose his degree of seriousness either, even after having become a full-fledged, 100% good fighter, but that also has to do with the typical Namek-sei-jin personality.

Piccolo completed the transition within one or two arcs, but it took Vegeta, who was first introduced as absolutely ruthless and evil and a smaller version of Freeza, almost the entirety of DBZ to undergo the same process. By the Freeza or Jinzouningen arcs Piccolo's evil has all but disappeared, but Vegeta's transition was much more gradual and incremental.

He'll just go insane in the middle of the annoying crowd of "human insects having fun". Obviously they're not going to have him kill anybody - the show can't get that serious this early and Vegeta is pretty much done with his killing days -, but he might just have an explosion of rage and destroy something while deliberately doing it in a way so that he doesn't kill anybody in the process.

We've got to sympathize with him, that's a hard position to be in. Being introverted and thinking lowly of pretty much every single being that surrounds you can't make it easy to interact between them in the context of a society.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by fadeddreams5 » Sat Jul 11, 2015 2:27 pm

I feel we saw a progression of Vegeta's character in BoG and the 2008 OVA (a bit out of character in the latter), but he completely regressed in F. All of a sudden, he "hates" Goku again, is once again obsessed with surpassing him, actually fought him in a childish scuffle, was indifferent towards Frieza, showed no emotions over his resurrection, and just seemed like he had a stick up his ass like in the early Buu saga again.

lol. I think I hate that movie. Took an idea the fanboy in me always dreamed of, and burned it all to the ground...

I'm remaining optimistic that Super will make up for it.
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Post by VegettoEX » Sat Jul 11, 2015 2:31 pm

It's in reference to special broadcast details/trivia/games/etc. you can do with your remote in Japan. We covered it during the official Twitter account's daily countdown.
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Post by soulnova » Sat Jul 11, 2015 2:40 pm

MaGyunia wrote:I bet you we'll see some Vegeta anger in a matter of hours.

By the beginning of the Majin Buu arc he's already a family man but still has a lot of anger deep down inside of him, but his decision to let Babidi control him and kill hundreds of people at the stadium was probably the last instance of really evil stuff done by Vegeta. After the Majin Buu arc, the transition is complete. However, the fact that he has become a family guy and one of the "good ones" fighting for good and out of love and sense of protection of his family, "friends" and life in general shouldn't mean he's lost his character and the way he interacts with others or presents himself and now become Mr. Nice Guy all of a sudden. That's never going to happen, it wouldn't be Vegeta if it did.

Piccolo completed the transition within one or two arcs, but it took Vegeta, who was first introduced as absolutely ruthless and evil and a smaller version of Freeza, almost the entirety of DBZ to undergo the same process. By the Freeza or Jinzouningen arcs Piccolo's evil has all but disappeared, but Vegeta's transition was much more gradual and incremental.

He'll just go insane in the middle of the annoying crowd of "human insects having fun". Obviously they're not going to have him kill anybody - the show can't get that serious this early and Vegeta is pretty much done with his killing days -, but he might just have an explosion of rage and destroy something while deliberately doing it in way so that he doesn't kill anybody in the process.

We've got to sympathize with him, that's a hard position to be in. Being introverted and thinking lowly of pretty much every single being that surrounds you can't make it easy to interact between them in the context of a society.

I'm thinking his outburst will probably push people into the ground and explode anything playing loud music.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Michelle91 » Sat Jul 11, 2015 4:50 pm

Does anything that a new android/cyborg will appear in Super? I don't want it to happen, but with the whole going to other worlds then I could see it happening.
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Post by Chuquita » Sat Jul 11, 2015 5:05 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Does anything that a new android/cyborg will appear in Super? I don't want it to happen, but with the whole going to other worlds then I could see it happening.
Arale. :3

In Universe 6 Senbei finally agreed at some point to give Arale the adult body she kept bugging him for in Dr. Slump, and adult Arale (who is still very much herself in personality) joins the Super Dragon Ball search-party resulting in much shenanigans. :mrgreen:
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Post by Captain Space » Sat Jul 11, 2015 5:20 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Does anything that a new android/cyborg will appear in Super? I don't want it to happen, but with the whole going to other worlds then I could see it happening.
Seems unlikely, given the recent more fantasy-ish push, gods and all that, but not impossible I suppose. (I mean, yeah, RF had plenty of sci-fi, but Freeza's main thing in that was a nigh-magical transformation.)
Chuquita wrote: Arale. :3

In Universe 6 Senbei finally agreed at some point to give Arale the adult body she kept bugging him for in Dr. Slump, and adult Arale (who is still very much herself in personality) joins the Super Dragon Ball search-party resulting in much shenanigans. :mrgreen:
So in universe 6, this happened:

(spoiler for big image)
...yeah, I'd be down for that.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Sat Jul 11, 2015 5:29 pm

Chuquita wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:Does anything that a new android/cyborg will appear in Super? I don't want it to happen, but with the whole going to other worlds then I could see it happening.
Arale. :3

In Universe 6 Senbei finally agreed at some point to give Arale the adult body she kept bugging him for in Dr. Slump, and adult Arale (who is still very much herself in personality) joins the Super Dragon Ball search-party resulting in much shenanigans. :mrgreen:
Didn't she already become an adult?

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I'd love for her to appear in Super.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Sat Jul 11, 2015 5:31 pm

Re: Arale vs Cell:

Yes. X3 Much yes!

Re: Dr. Slump Briefly Returns scan

She did; that's where I got the idea. :3
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Post by MaGyunia » Sat Jul 11, 2015 5:32 pm

Goddamn it, I can't believe we'll be watching another episode one week after that insane experience we went through exactly one week ago. Can't believe we're getting one new episode a week and we'll all be watching it at the same time again. This will become routine, but a wonderful one. I'm super-hyped. Goddamn it, I love this.

Honestly, tears came into my eyes last week when the first visuals from DBSuper showed up shortly after the clock reached 9h00. And right at the second episode we're getting Vegeta's version of a family-trip, the reappearance of Kaiou-sama, some more of Beerus' awesome character, Vegeta going insane in the middle of a human crowd and who-knows what else.

Can't believe that at 31 years of age in 2015 I would be watching a new series from DBZ in real-time in Japanese. I honestly thought it would never happen. It's an entirely different experience from Kai and the 2008, 2013 and 2015 movies, as in, it's not something that happens one time, you get to absorb it fully and add it to the rest, and it's done; you get to see new canon stuff with the entire environment of Dragonball in original Japanese exactly at the time it's happening in Japan and all around the world, and the experience gets to be repeated every single week.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Captain Space » Sat Jul 11, 2015 5:34 pm

UpFromTheSkies wrote: Didn't she already become an adult?

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I'd love for her to appear in Super.
Wait...what was that? I've never seen that before.
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Post by MaGyunia » Sat Jul 11, 2015 5:45 pm

I mean, it's been 18 years. Some of my friends weren't even BORN when Dragonball had ended. It's really hard to grasp the enormity and significance of this event. I'm sure most of you share the exact same sensation. I'd be glad to have survived this long even if it was just to be alive and kicking and present while this is taking place and I get to follow it as it happens.

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Post by DoomieDoomie911 » Sat Jul 11, 2015 5:46 pm

MaGyunia wrote:Goddamn it, I can't believe we'll be watching another episode one week after that insane experience we went through exactly one week ago. Can't believe we're getting one new episode a week and we'll all be watching it at the same time again. This will become routine, but a wonderful one. I'm super-hyped. Goddamn it, I love this.

Honestly, tears came into my eyes last week when the first visuals from DBSuper showed up shortly after the clock reached 9h00. And right at the second episode we're getting Vegeta's version of a family-trip, the reappearance of Kaiou-sama, some more of Beerus' awesome character, Vegeta going insane in the middle of a human crowd and who-knows what else.

Can't believe that at 31 years of age in 2015 I would be watching a new series from DBZ in real-time in Japanese. I honestly thought it would never happen. It's an entirely different experience from Kai and the 2008, 2013 and 2015 movies, as in, it's not something that happens one time, you get to absorb it fully and add it to the rest, and it's done; you get to see new canon stuff with the entire environment of Dragonball in original Japanese exactly at the time it's happening in Japan and all around the world, and the experience gets to be repeated every single week.
I agree. It's absolutely great! :D If you had told me a year ago that there was going to be a new Dragon Ball series, I would have laughed. I never thought that this would happen, and I'm so, so happy that it is! :mrgreen:
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Post by MaGyunia » Sat Jul 11, 2015 5:55 pm

And the opening theme has me totally addicted. Can't get it out of my head (and don't want to). It just adds to the whole experience I've described. They could have hardly chosen a better opening visuals + opening theme combo.

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Post by godku23 » Sat Jul 11, 2015 6:08 pm

Speaking of the opening theme, is there a full version of it out.
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