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Post by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:01 am

Absolutely stoked for this. It feels like we've been waiting years, and yet...I still haven't picked up the 3rd volume. :P These are always gonna be definite purchases, though. They're of such a high quality, and they look so nice standing on my shelf. Easily my favourite English release of the series, including DVDs and Blu-Rays (that are currently available, anyway).

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Post by sbk » Fri Jul 03, 2015 3:37 pm

Greatest news ever

It only took forever

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Post by Kendamu » Fri Jul 03, 2015 4:51 pm

I am really excited for this! I had all but given up completely! I've been bugging VIZ and Shonen Jump on Twitter for MONTHS about this!

I even made a Tweet to VIZ and Shonen Jump a few days ago saying, "I guess I better just collect the Japanese ones because the US ones are never coming back." If anyone from either social media team read that Tweet, they were probably grinning ear-to-ear because of what was going to be announced a few days later.

I need to make sure to preorder these as they appear because I want to read them on Day 1!

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Post by mikezilla2 » Sat Jul 04, 2015 11:40 pm

dos anyone think they will do a full run ?

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Post by jrdemr » Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:41 am

I wouldn't guarantee it, but possibly. They probably just licensed the Saiyan arc at first to gauge how the market would react, and since apparently it sold well enough, they decided to publish the rest. Can't imagine they'd do it arc-by-arc again, but then again, this is Viz, so anything's possible...

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Post by DBZ_Lee » Sun Jul 05, 2015 2:08 pm

I'm still absolutely delighted with this announcement. I pre-ordered the first three in a heartbeat, and will be doing so again as soon as Amazon lists the new volumes.
I hope they are committed to seeing this through to the end, though I suppose they will review the sales after each arc, in order to ensure they are turning over enough of a profit to continue.

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Post by Tyro » Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:01 pm

I would totally support this, but the bottom line (for me) is that they would have to give the translation a tune-up. They're almost there though.

Removal of (99% of) visual censorship? Check.

Keeping the Japanese SFX? Check.

Not editing the speech bubbles to fit the translation? Check.

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Post by jrdemr » Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:21 pm

I've been thinking about it and we still know very little about this release:

.Will it be serialized in Shonen Jump first before being printed?
(I sure hope not, it would take ages to finish the Freeza arc. But it's probably not the case, they announced the continuation at Anime Expo, the same event where they announced the print edition of the Saiyan arc. When they announced the serialization in SJ, they made the announcement on the magazine itself.)

.When will it come out?
(The Saiyan arc announcement did come with a release date. Maybe this was a bit of a last minute decision and they don't have all the kinks worked out yet. Either way, we probably won't get it before February 2016, Viz makes all of its announcements quite a few months in advance - Jaco was announced a full 10 months before it came out.)

.Is this just the Freeza arc or will we get everything until the end of Buu?
(The million-dollar question, though we also didn't get this information the first time around (as we all know). As I said before, we'll probably get everything until the end this time. They probably just licensed the Saiyan arc at first to gauge how the market would react, and since apparently it sold well enough, they decided to publish the rest. Can't imagine they'd do it arc-by-arc again.)

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Post by Dbzfan94 » Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:48 am

I would really love a new translation but it's not a deal breaker for me. They're minor annoyances.
Also it would be even better if Viz releases the DB part of the manga instead of just Z.

Yes I know the manga in Japan is Dragon Ball from beginning to end, I was just trying to clarify

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Post by UpFromTheSkies » Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:05 pm

2015, the year of Dragon Ball. Now if Bandai would just announce an English version of Dragon Ball Heroes...

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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:57 pm

So, after re-reading my Volumes 1-3, is anyone else disappointed Gohan's gi in the Saiyan arc was purple and not green like the original?

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Post by Dbzfan94 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:00 pm

Is there any announcement of a release date? I haven't seen anything

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SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:So, after re-reading my Volumes 1-3, is anyone else disappointed Gohan's gi in the Saiyan arc was purple and not green like the original?
It would have been nice to see the FC manga be a little more faithful to Toriyama's original colors. I understand that this is easier said than done as even Toriyama wasn't completely consistent in his own work, especially if you take into consideration all of the special illustrations he drew. Off the top of my head these are a few places I would have made a different decision.

* Karin should have been colored blue with a white snout. Pure blue or brown would have also been acceptable.

* Kame-sennin's house should have been blue. I think they went with white since Toriyama used it for Jumpland.

* Pure Evil Boo should have been as pink as all the other Boos. It was a step up from the anime but still.

* It's cool that the FC manga wanted to preserve the original colors used for chapters 1-2, but I would have liked if they were just consistent throughout, maybe even sticking with Goku's purple dogi until he gets to the 21st Tenkaichi Budokai. That way the it would be consistent with the dark shading used in the manga.

* Aura color could have been more consistent between white and yellow. Seemed kind of arbitrary.

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Post by Dbzfan94 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:18 pm

Tyro wrote:
SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:So, after re-reading my Volumes 1-3, is anyone else disappointed Gohan's gi in the Saiyan arc was purple and not green like the original?
It would have been nice to see the FC manga be a little more faithful to Toriyama's original colors. I understand that this is easier said than done as even Toriyama wasn't completely consistent in his own work, especially if you take into consideration all of the special illustrations he drew. Off the top of my head these are a few places I would have made a different decision.

* Karin should have been colored blue with a white snout. Pure blue or brown would have also been acceptable.

* Kame-sennin's house should have been blue. I think they went with white since Toriyama used it for Jumpland.

* Pure Evil Boo should have been as pink as all the other Boos. It was a step up from the anime but still.

* It's cool that the FC manga wanted to preserve the original colors used for chapters 1-2, but I would have liked if they were just consistent throughout, maybe even sticking with Goku's purple dogi until he gets to the 21st Tenkaichi Budokai. That way the it would be consistent with the dark shading used in the manga.

* Aura color could have been more consistent between white and yellow. Seemed kind of arbitrary.
Was Evil Buu always pink in the manga? The anime was gray obviously, and the FC made him a pinkish-gray. Was there any images of him actually pink? That'd be really interesting to see

Also one thing I don't like about the FC besides the old translation is that all the Ki attacks are yellow. The different colors of the attacks really made them stand out.

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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:26 pm

Tyro wrote:It would have been nice to see the FC manga be a little more faithful to Toriyama's original colors. I understand that this is easier said than done as even Toriyama wasn't completely consistent in his own work, especially if you take into consideration all of the special illustrations he drew. Off the top of my head these are a few places I would have made a different decision.

* Karin should have been colored blue with a white snout. Pure blue or brown would have also been acceptable.

* Kame-sennin's house should have been blue. I think they went with white since Toriyama used it for Jumpland.

* Pure Evil Boo should have been as pink as all the other Boos. It was a step up from the anime but still.

* It's cool that the FC manga wanted to preserve the original colors used for chapters 1-2, but I would have liked if they were just consistent throughout, maybe even sticking with Goku's purple dogi until he gets to the 21st Tenkaichi Budokai. That way the it would be consistent with the dark shading used in the manga.

* Aura color could have been more consistent between white and yellow. Seemed kind of arbitrary.
I agree with all your points. Especially the bottom one. I personally have OCD towards things like that, but overall, I'd have to say things like Ki blast color (always yellow) was more consistent than the anime where a KHH could be red, blue, or yellow.

As for Karin, I recall seeing him blue in that one color chapter, and brown in my Complete Illustrations book, but has he been gold in any official material / drawings? I vaguely remember that, and personally, would've preferred that.

Also, another question since I'm assuming you have all of the volumes and not just 3 like me, what color did they make Goku's Nyoi-bō's holder? The thing he keeps it in? I recall one colored chapter making it purple.

Same for Kinto'un, I recall one chapter having that as purple as well.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:54 pm

This thread exists for that very reason. The Nyoibo holder is orange at first (using the original colors) and purple thereafter. Kinto'un is yellow.

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Post by Tyro » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:55 pm

Dbzfan94 wrote:Was Evil Buu always pink in the manga? The anime was gray obviously, and the FC made him a pinkish-gray. Was there any images of him actually pink? That'd be really interesting to see
Since he's around for all of one chapter in the manga we never get to see Pure Evil Boo in any full color pictures or special illustrations. He was "colored" the same color as all the other Boos in Daizenshuu 4 (in red-grey scale), and Daizenshuu #10 even had some cards and artwork that show him as completely pink like all the others. I think the FC manga decided to take a hint from the anime and make him darker.
Dbzfan94 wrote:Also one thing I don't like about the FC besides the old translation is that all the Ki attacks are yellow. The different colors of the attacks really made them stand out.
I actually like that a lot, especially for the Kamehameha. The Kamehameha is just a big ki attack when you think about it, so I'm glad they normalized most ki attacks to yellow, which itself is maybe supposed to represent white/colorlessness. The one time we see the Kamehameha used in the manga's full color pages it is white.
SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:As for Karin, I recall seeing him blue in that one color chapter, and brown in my Complete Illustrations book, but has he been gold in any official material / drawings? I vaguely remember that, and personally, would've preferred that.
Are you thinking of when he was drawn on top of the number 11 in one of the Dragon Ball calendars? I normally lump that in with the brown category, but it definitely had some orange qualities to it. He's also been green-ish in the refreshed tankobon spine art.
SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Also, another question since I'm assuming you have all of the volumes and not just 3 like me, what color did they make Goku's Nyoi-bō's holder? The thing he keeps it in? I recall one colored chapter making it purple.

Same for Kinto'un, I recall one chapter having that as purple as well.
The Nyoibo sheath is orange in the first two chapters and consistently purple afterwards in the FC manga. I think it's been colored several different ways throughout its lifetime. I know it was brown on Weekly Shonen Jump 1984 #50.

Kintoun is another special case. Gosh, it's been: white, purple, yellow, blue, maybe some others? I think it was actually colored purple more often in the manga than yellow. But Shueisha probably just took a note from anime and went with iconic yellow. This would make for some good research.

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Post by funrush » Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:20 pm

To be sure, this is only the Freeza arc for now?

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Post by ZombieVito » Wed Jul 15, 2015 3:00 am

I'm having very bizarre feelings about this. A few months ago I would have been thrilled for them to finally start releasing the rest of the series but now? I just don't want them anymore.

They were taking way too long to release these damn things that I just resigned myself to only have my Kai Blu Rays. I'll just get the Buu Kai arc on Blu Ray when it releases and call it a day.

Too little too late Viz.

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Post by DBZ_Lee » Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:49 am

Viz just told me on twitter the next edition will release May 2016.

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