Basaku wrote: Sailor Moon is internationally recognized, parodied, referenced and influental. Maybe no as widely today but is sure made a bigger stamp on the global pop culture along with Dragon Ball then any other anime/manga that came from Japan
I don't think Sailor Moon is worth the hyperbole of "any other" -- not that it isn't hugely influential and defines the magical girl anime genre for most people. But what about Robotech or Voltron or Gundam Wing? Saint Seiya? Speed Racer? Neon Genesis Evangelion? Akira? Captain Tsubasa? Different parts of the world and different decades latched on the different anime.
Maybe I'm dating myself since I'm naming very old anime. :p
Retan wrote:SO I was on my tablet and had it translate a few of the comments from the japanese people and they think the show has been pretty awful so far it seems like (From the few translated half way decently anyway ) and they want to get to the fights (Or maybe they were just talking about how awful beeruses fight was. But who knows it was just a few random people on the site ShinGaijin posted above.
I saw a few people complaining about the lack of fights, but I saw a *lot* more complaints about the timeslot, people talking about recording it or sleeping through it. Well, I think so, anyway.
'Cause Google Trends solves everything. Miley Cyrus is way higher than most other music/pop acts yet it doesn't really say much. Sailor Moon is internationally recognized, parodied, referenced and influental. Maybe no as widely today but is sure made a bigger stamp on the global pop culture along with Dragon Ball then any other anime/manga that came from Japan
That's talk of being influential though, that's not the same as just being outright famous and popular. I wouldn't say Pokémon was influential no but it is famous worldwide. It is has a level of fame that no other anime outside of Dragon Ball Z has.
On Wikipedia it mentions that the series had poor ratings in the US and poor DVD sales in the UK. This is the complete opposite of how Pokémon and DBZ faired which is why it doesn't seem to be as ingrained in western pop culture.
On YouTube there's 27 pages worth of DBZ videos that have over 1 million views. Sailor Moon has just one and a half pages.
It is well known but not that to that extent. If Pokémon was Superman and DBZ was Batman then Sailor Moon is The Flash.
Chuquita wrote:Well if One Piece and Conan were low too...was last weekend a big shore/beach weekend in Japan? Was the weather really nice?
Some people in that board were talking about the weather, so it could be that.
As someone in Japan right now, I can tell you that the weather is unreal at the moment. Extremely hot! It was nearing 40C when I was in Kanazawa on that Sunday, I believe.
Whether that has any real bearing on ratings, I'm not really sure.
Vegeta was trending on Twitter here, so I think the episode was at least popular.
No, it ranked #7, because of shows that didn't air last week -- Doraemon, Crayonshin chan and Detective Conan. It was only .1% off from Detective Conan, though.
Well, that's a significant drop, but seeing as how almost everything dropped as well, then it's a good rating, I guess.
As long as it stays constantly in the top 10, I'll be happy. I'm guessing once we reach the U6 arc, and get to the climax, it'll average around 4th and 3rd place.
Man, looks like Vegeta family day shenanigans didn't entice a lot of people. That, and most kids will probably be outside enjoying the summer weather rather than watching anime.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
There is also other competition for Super to deal with such as Doraemon, Detective Conan, Yo-Kai Watch, Kamen Rider, Super Sentai, Shin-chan and other popular shows with kids under the age of 13 in Japan. At least if merchandise sales are good then I hope Super will keep on going.
Hellspawn28 wrote:I wonder why the ratings drop? Did people in Japan not like the first episode?
Mostly because Crayon Shin-chan, Doraemon, and Detective Conan did not air last week, and they usually take up a larger percentage of the viewing audience. A 5.6% is honestly where I expected Super to be, as in today's rating system that's pretty good to average. The only reason the series got a 7.9% ratings share the first week is because it's a rating "share" system, as-in everything is done as a percentage of the whole. If you have fewer shows participating in the shared audience, the size of which does not change, then other show's percentages of the whole audience go up. When more shows participate, the percentages go down. The individual share percentages aren't always the best for gauging popularity, just viewership. Overall, without taking in a bunch of different factors it's really hard to draw any sort of solid conclusion by comparing a single show to its own previous rating shares.
Here's the whole ratings list, for those that want it.
It should be noted that Crayon Shin-chan, Doraemon, and Detective Conan did not air last week, so it is no surprise they drop the ratings for other shows.
That seems like a non-intuitive system of measurement, especially since the shows are not on at the same time so the number people you are taking "shares" of might have a lot of duplicates. Thanks for clarifying!
It's definitely just been an off week. One Piece had a 7.0 this week. I just went through all of 2015's ratings and it was always above a 8.0 except for two instances where it had a 7.3 in March and a 7.0 in April.
Others have been at a low point in the ratings this week too. I don't know why the ratings dropped but for some reason they did.
So it has nothing to do with Dragon Ball Super itself and it'll go up next week like the others.
FortuneSSJ wrote:So far, Super is having the same ratings than Buu arc Kai. I was expecting more.
It's honestly the sort of ratings you should expect for a shonen anime in the summer. But the ratings should get better once the action starts.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Lord Beerus wrote:
It's honestly the sort of ratings you should expect for a shonen anime in the summer. But the ratings should get better once the action starts.
Not really. One Piece is a shounen and its always higher.
With a new series, I was expecting Super to get on par with One Piece, but its always lower. And the reason why super episode 1 ranked so high was because some series didn't air that week. So, nothing new in these rankings. Buu arc Kai all over again.
I also don't understand why anyone: Funimation, Crunchyroll, etc... isn't streaming Super episodes for overseas fanbase.
Its the most famous anime worlwide and Toei is just shooting in their own foot. Long live piracy!
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A world without Dragon Ball is just boring.
Favourite old DB Animators: Masaki Sato and Tadayoshi Yamamuro
Favourite new DB Animators: Yuya Takahashi and Chikashi Kubota
) and they want to get to the fights (Or maybe they were just talking about how awful beeruses fight was. But who knows it was just a few random people on the site ShinGaijin posted above.
