Do you think the end of Z will be re-written/retconned?
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Do you think the end of Z will be re-written/retconned?
With the events of battle of gods, fukkatsu no f and now the universe 6 saga I personally think it should be rewritten because they are already a lot of things that contradict that ending like goku and vegeta obtaining ssg/ssgss and them training with whis and so on. I would like to here your opinions on this
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Nothing contradicts that ending. There are even two versions of that ending and they barely contradict each other.
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We'll find out when they do the Ssjg ritual cause if pan is going to be born less then a year after Buu's defeat then it will have to be re-written.
Personally I think it should cause it was written at a time where Toriyama was tired of the franchise unlike now so chances are he can come up with a better one.
Personally I think it should cause it was written at a time where Toriyama was tired of the franchise unlike now so chances are he can come up with a better one.
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If Pan is part of the SSjG ritual, it might be. If they don't it could create a plot hole, but it really just depends.
Pan could potentially contradict the ending. Only by one line, but still.B wrote:Nothing contradicts that ending. There are even two versions of that ending and they barely contradict each other.
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If Videl is pregnant in Super, it means that the promotional info were wrong about the series starting 6 months after Boo's death. They've been wrong before, when they said that Gohan & Videl are about to get married, while they were actually recently married. The series itself only says that 6 months after Boo's death, they used the DBs to make everyone forget about Boo, it doesn't say that the current events take place 6 months after Boo's death.
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Furthermore Beerus has still been asleep for 39 years, just like in BoG, which means, if Super does take place in Age 774, then Beerus went to sleep a couple of years before even Goku was born and Vegeta would only be 3 years at the time. If the destruction of the planet Vegeta by the hands of Freeza gets referenced by Whis in Super, then we should pay attention to him possibly refencing a timeframe. If Whis for example says that Planet Vegeta was destroyed a month or so after Beerus went to sleep, then it lines up with BoG's timeline placement, but obviously not with Super.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:If Videl is pregnant in Super, it means that the promotional info were wrong about the series starting 6 months after Boo's death. They've been wrong before, when they said that Gohan & Videl are about to get married, while they were actually recently married. The series itself only says that 6 months after Boo's death, they used the DBs to make everyone forget about Boo, it doesn't say that the current events take place 6 months after Boo's death.
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Yeah Super doesn't take place just 6 months after the Buu Saga. EoZ is safe.
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But it can't take place too much longer after episode 207 of Z, because that was when Vegeta told Trunks that he was taking him to the amusement park. Considering that, it would make sense for it to take place 7-9 months after the end of the Boo arc.Marco Polo wrote:Yeah Super doesn't take place just 6 months after the Buu Saga. EoZ is safe.
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Vegeta could just be a major procrastinator.DoomieDoomie911 wrote:But it can't take place too much longer after episode 207 of Z, because that was when Vegeta told Trunks that he was taking him to the amusement park. Considering that, it would make sense for it to take place 7-9 months after the end of the Boo arc.Marco Polo wrote:Yeah Super doesn't take place just 6 months after the Buu Saga. EoZ is safe.
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It's possible, but postponing it for years? I don't think so...Polyphase Avatron wrote:Vegeta could just be a major procrastinator.DoomieDoomie911 wrote:But it can't take place too much longer after episode 207 of Z, because that was when Vegeta told Trunks that he was taking him to the amusement park. Considering that, it would make sense for it to take place 7-9 months after the end of the Boo arc.Marco Polo wrote:Yeah Super doesn't take place just 6 months after the Buu Saga. EoZ is safe.
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With how fast they were to retcon BOG and F, yeah I wouldn't be surprised if they retcon the ending. I'd like a more interesting take on Uub, if they still wanna do him.
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Oob has never, ever gotten the attention I think he deserves. I wish there was something official showing his training and adventures with Goku. As much as I like the time frame of Super, it would have been great if it had taken place then.Chuquita wrote:With how fast they were to retcon BOG and F, yeah I wouldn't be surprised if they retcon the ending. I'd like a more interesting take on Uub, if they still wanna do him.
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In all honesty it really doesn't matter. I always thought the EOZ was a crap ending to begin with, but to recton it would just open up a huge can of worms and I doubt they'll do that. Most likely they'll spend most of the Super series in the Universe 6, where time is pretty much free to go anywhere and as long as it wants without running into the EOZ 10 year time limit.
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Maybe there will be an alternate timeline thing like in Xenoverse.
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Depends. If the series is successful and goes on beyond the Universe 6 arc, I am sure they will rewrite it. If not, I don't think they will.
A rewrite might happen, though, by moving Uub's appearance sooner than it was originally and then the ending of Super could be the actual new ending.
A rewrite might happen, though, by moving Uub's appearance sooner than it was originally and then the ending of Super could be the actual new ending.
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My problem with how Uub was treated is that Goku was still the main character in GT, but the ending of Z felt like Goku was passing the torch on. If Super goes past EoZ I'd love to see a large focus on Uub, with Gohan, Vegeta, Goten/Trunks, and occasionally Goku serving as the ensemble.DoomieDoomie911 wrote:Oob has never, ever gotten the attention I think he deserves. I wish there was something official showing his training and adventures with Goku. As much as I like the time frame of Super, it would have been great if it had taken place then.Chuquita wrote:With how fast they were to retcon BOG and F, yeah I wouldn't be surprised if they retcon the ending. I'd like a more interesting take on Uub, if they still wanna do him.
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same with the Gohan after Cell saga and look what happened. DBZ can't pass on torches to save its life.funrush wrote:but the ending of Z felt like Goku was passing the torch on.
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EOZ is short, vague and doesn't feature any transformations (not even blonde SSJ). For now they can keep cramming whatever they want in the 10-year period. As long as the current arc has an ending in which the good guys win (and they will obviously), EOZ can be stuck at the end just fine. This isn't GT situation which obviously doesn't work with the new stuff
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Strong possibility with the way things are going. They might just make Pan older, but if that's the case then it's not too bad.
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Exactly. That's one of the problems I have with GT.funrush wrote:My problem with how Uub was treated is that Goku was still the main character in GT, but the ending of Z felt like Goku was passing the torch on. If Super goes past EoZ I'd love to see a large focus on Uub, with Gohan, Vegeta, Goten/Trunks, and occasionally Goku serving as the ensemble.DoomieDoomie911 wrote:Oob has never, ever gotten the attention I think he deserves. I wish there was something official showing his training and adventures with Goku. As much as I like the time frame of Super, it would have been great if it had taken place then.Chuquita wrote:With how fast they were to retcon BOG and F, yeah I wouldn't be surprised if they retcon the ending. I'd like a more interesting take on Uub, if they still wanna do him.
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