What is a "Side Story?" Dragon Ball GT Edition

[Kamiccolo9]

I think that the OP pretty much answered his own question on what a side story is.

It wasn't a question. The topic was meant to be informative, not interrogative.

[Cetra]

Side story in regards to GT means non canon. I'm sorry if you like GT but its disgrace to the franchise. I dont hate it, but i know its non canon and new stuff ignores it.

Is there any official source from Akira Toriyama or Studio Toei you can provide to prove that they have defined it in context of Dragon Ball as "side-story = not canonical = out of continuity x"? Because, if you do not have such a thing for your reasoning, you don't know that it is not non-canonical. Undefined is not the same thing as a state of non-existence.

[Dbzejo]

Side story in regards to GT means non canon. I'm sorry if you like GT but its disgrace to the franchise. I dont hate it, but i know its non canon and new stuff ignores it.

Is there any official source from Akira Toriyama or Studio Toei you can provide to prove that they have defined it in context of Dragon Ball as "side-story = not canonical = out of continuity x"? Because, if not, you don't know that it is not non-canonical.

Toriyama ignored GT in all ways possible? Also, for the last time- it shows Hell (which differs from Toriyamas version) and Cooler (non canon movie character) escaping from it and Dragon Fist attack (from non canon 1995 movie). I wont respond to this thread anymore...

[Cetra]

Side story in regards to GT means non canon. I'm sorry if you like GT but its disgrace to the franchise. I dont hate it, but i know its non canon and new stuff ignores it.

Is there any official source from Akira Toriyama or Studio Toei you can provide to prove that they have defined it in context of Dragon Ball as "side-story = not canonical = out of continuity x"? Because, if not, you don't know that it is not non-canonical.

Toriyama ignored GT in all ways possible? Also, for the last time- it shows Hell (which differs from Toriyamas version) and Cooler (non canon movie character) escaping from it and Dragon Fist attack (from non canon 1995 movie). I wont respond to this thread anymore...

So to put it in a nutshell you don't have a source and it is just your interpretation of ambigious things and you don't know it. Okay, just wanted to be sure.

[Dbzejo]

Is there any official source from Akira Toriyama or Studio Toei you can provide to prove that they have defined it in context of Dragon Ball as "side-story = not canonical = out of continuity x"? Because, if not, you don't know that it is not non-canonical.

Toriyama ignored GT in all ways possible? Also, for the last time- it shows Hell (which differs from Toriyamas version) and Cooler (non canon movie character) escaping from it and Dragon Fist attack (from non canon 1995 movie). I wont respond to this thread anymore...

So to put it in a nutshell you don't have a source and it is just your interpretation of ambigious things and you don't know it. Okay, just wanted to be sure.

Ok, actually I'm gonna respond just one more time. I just saw your signature and realised that no matter what i say i will never be right. Thats all.

[Hellspawn28]

If Coola escapes out of Hell then that would mean that Movie 6 happens and that movie can't fit anywhere in the timeline of the show. Maybe if Toei just had Bojack or Hirudegarn flying out of Hell then it won't have been a big issue.

[Cetra]

Ok, actually I'm gonna respond just one more time. I just saw your signature and realised that no matter what i say i will never be right. Thats all.

You are right exactly when either Akira Toriyama or Studio Toei decide to make a actual, unequivocal statement about the canonicity management that excludes Dragon Ball Grand Tour. Before that you are not. Any ambigious things will not lead to what you and other think and which seems "logical" because it it excludes too many variables to just cime to that conclusion. And inconsistencies like Cooler are (who is not even that inconsistent because he can fit easily with just some small details changed and even if not, Dragon Ball is a good example of artistic freedom where authors just decide to include something because they want to) really no reason to throw away an entire series.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

GT is now treated as an alternate timeline, but that doesn't make it non-canon. It's still acknowledged by video-games after all.

[Hellspawn28]

who is not even that inconsistent because he can fit easily with just some small details changed

Maybe with Movie 5, but not with Movie 6. Return of Coola can't fit anywhere no matter where you try to put it. It can't be in the three year training period because no one knows where New Namek is at until Goku went to see King Kai in the later part of the Cell saga. Not to mention Dende is the Kami of Earth until he doesn't become one until later, no one was surprise to see Vegeta there and that he is a SSj. It can't be during the Cell games 7 day break given how Gohan is the same height as Krillin, Gohan can't go SSj, Trunks is nowhere to be seen, neither Goku or Vegeta go beyond SSj. Coola in GT is a plot hole since he was officially killed off in Movie 6 when they blew up the last parts of him from what I can recall.

I think GT at this rate is just another alternate timeline and Trunks changing history give birth to infinite different timelines that exist in Universe 7. I think if Toriyama said if GT took place in another timeline then I think fans would be cool with that.

[Kamiccolo9]

who is not even that inconsistent because he can fit easily with just some small details changed

Maybe with Movie 5, but not with Movie 6. Return of Coola can't fit anywhere no matter where you try to put it. It can't be in the three year training period because no one knows where New Namek is at until Goku went to see King Kai in the later part of the Cell saga. Not to mention Dende is the Kami of Earth until he doesn't become one until later, no one was surprise to see Vegeta there and that he is a SSj. It can't be during the Cell games 7 day break given how Gohan is the same height as Krillin, Gohan can't go SSj, Trunks is nowhere to be seen, neither Goku or Vegeta go beyond SSj. Coola in GT is a plot hole since he was officially killed off in Movie 6 when they blew up the last parts of him from what I can recall.

I think GT at this rate is just another alternate timeline and Trunks changing history give birth to infinite different timelines that exist in Universe 7. I think if Toriyama said if GT took place in another timeline then I think fans would be cool with that.

Cooler being in GT is as much a "plothole" as Gregory and Satan's disciples being in Super.

A plothole has to actually contradict something. Cooler being in GT does not. One would have to assume that GT follows the exact same events as Movies 5 and 6, which is a fact that is not in evidence.

And while all of this is incredibly fascinating, it is off-topic.