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Re: Death Battle: Goku vs Superman 2: 1 Day to go

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:02 pm

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Kamiccolo9 wrote:I don't know why people think this absorption thing will matter. The last time Goku absorbed an attack, it took so much out of him that he couldn't even fly anymore. Assuming he even absorbed it in the first place, and didn't simply disperse it.
We had a tidbit on what he did with Beerus's attack.

By using his own energy he can absorb and cancel out a enemy's attack.
A tidbit from where?

And I still don't see why it matters. Apparently it takes so much out of Goku that he passes out, and, unlike Superman, he doesn't recharge from standing in the sun.
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Re: Death Battle: Goku vs Superman 2: 1 Day to go

Post by Bullza » Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:12 pm

Well after Superman used the Super Flare he was rendered unconscious afterwards. Perhaps it's something that at the end of the fight he'll use it against Goku but he'll negate it like Beerus' attack.

Superman would fall unconscious while Goku would be exhausted but conscious and therefore the winner.

Or there will be Kamehameha vs Heat Vision struggle, Goku will have the edge and it'll push Superman into unleashing the Super Flare which would kill Goku and Superman would be unconscious but alive so therefore the winner.

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Re: Death Battle: Goku vs Superman 2: 1 Day to go

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:17 pm

Bullza wrote:Well after Superman used the Super Flare he was rendered unconscious afterwards. Perhaps it's something that at the end of the fight he'll use it against Goku but he'll negate it like Beerus' attack.

Superman would fall unconscious while Goku would be exhausted but conscious and therefore the winner.

Or there will be Kamehameha vs Heat Vision struggle, Goku will have the edge and it'll push Superman into unleashing the Super Flare which would kill Goku and Superman would be unconscious but alive so therefore the winner.
All of which would be complete bullshit, as Godku has no feats to speak of, but I'm sure that won't matter anyway.
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Re: Death Battle: Goku vs Superman 2: 1 Day to go

Post by TheGmGoken » Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:45 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
KentalSSJ6 wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:I don't know why people think this absorption thing will matter. The last time Goku absorbed an attack, it took so much out of him that he couldn't even fly anymore. Assuming he even absorbed it in the first place, and didn't simply disperse it.
We had a tidbit on what he did with Beerus's attack.

By using his own energy he can absorb and cancel out a enemy's attack.
A tidbit from where?

And I still don't see why it matters. Apparently it takes so much out of Goku that he passes out, and, unlike Superman, he doesn't recharge from standing in the sun.
In New 52 when Supes does that Flare attack. It takes waay to much outta him. Even more so than Goku absorbing the attack Beerus launched.

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Re: Death Battle: Goku vs Superman 2: 1 Day to go

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Fri Jul 17, 2015 11:42 pm

They should do Goku vs. Batman instead. After all, Batman is a god too now:

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Post by jcogginsa » Fri Jul 17, 2015 11:46 pm

Context:

Metron's chair has all sorts of knowledge mojo in it. Wonder Woman used the Lasso of Truth to make him admit that his knowledge could help save earth from Darkseid and the Anti-Monitor's war, so Diana yanked Metron off and Batman sat in the chair, becoming a god of knowledge

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Jul 17, 2015 11:48 pm

So if Superman loses, will the video will get the same level of dislikes and hate from Superman and DC fans? DC and Superman fanboys are just as big as DBZ.
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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Fri Jul 17, 2015 11:48 pm

Makes at least as much sense as holding hands with 6 pure-hearted Saiyans I guess.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sat Jul 18, 2015 12:04 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:So if Superman loses, will the video will get the same level of dislikes and hate from Superman and DC fans? DC and Superman fanboys are just as big as DBZ.
Its a lose-lose battle hear. No matter what happens be it a repeat of last year or backlash form Supes fans, nothing but spite and vitrol will come out of it.

Goku VS Superman brings the absolute worst out of both characters fanbases.
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Post by dario03 » Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:36 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:So if Superman loses, will the video will get the same level of dislikes and hate from Superman and DC fans? DC and Superman fanboys are just as big as DBZ.
I'm thinking a bit less. But we'll probably find out real soon.

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Post by GokuRules987 » Sat Jul 18, 2015 2:30 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:So if Superman loses, will the video will get the same level of dislikes and hate from Superman and DC fans? DC and Superman fanboys are just as big as DBZ.
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Remember comics is a small niche market compared to manga and anime. their only mainstream in US to say for the least but manga and anime is shipped thru world wide. Only a small handful of dedicated comic nerds only read superman comics but the rest are the mainstream fans that follow superman from the actual live action movies like for example superman vs batman, man of steel etc
Do these movies depict superman fighting against a universe level threats, surviving 12 supernovas, sneezing solar systems or even holding a multiverse at the tip of his finger?
Ofcourse not, so then Superman fans should have no real reason to dislike that their hero lost to a character who has solar system/galaxy level busting. Constantly fights against villains who are trying to blow up the earth and are universal threats.

I believe Goku will win because hes just a better writen character. Superman cant even outrun a bullet lol
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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sat Jul 18, 2015 2:32 am

Superman is actually one of the most well-recognized fictional characters worldwide, last time I checked.
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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sat Jul 18, 2015 2:42 am

Anyway, if you compare the characters on Google Trends, Goku is only slightly ahead two times in 10 years or so, and is currently a bit higher than Superman (probably because of RoF and Super being made). However Superman has several spikes where he goes way ahead of Goku (when his movies were released, probably).
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Post by GokuRules987 » Sat Jul 18, 2015 2:53 am

Polyphase Avatron wrote:Superman is actually one of the most well-recognized fictional characters worldwide, last time I checked.
Well Goku is also a very recognized fictional character worldwide, but atleast Goku has more dedicated fans than Superman. Superman is just too old school! Most people dont care about some old school outdated superhero that runs around with undies and saves people, and at times he can literally be a walking plot device.

So i highly doubt that Superman being one of the most recognized fictional character is going to make more people side with him or encourage internet discussions about him, since a lot of them are not even an actual fans of superman.
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He's a cultural icon. You know what that means?
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Post by Darkblade1995 » Sat Jul 18, 2015 6:56 am

Polyphase Avatron wrote:He's a cultural icon. You know what that means?
But isn't Goku... I don't know, maybe, also a cultural icon. I mean, in Japan the guy even has a own official day. I don't think Superman has such a thing.

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Post by Bullza » Sat Jul 18, 2015 7:41 am

He is a cultural icon but Superman is the most famous fictional character in the world not named Mickey Mouse. He's on a completely different level.
So if Superman loses, will the video will get the same level of dislikes and hate from Superman and DC fans?
Nah it'd get a lot of dislikes but not to the same extent. Goku is the more liked character possibly out of the two and the last video got so many dislikes because he lost.

I've noticed that DBZ/Goku fans seem to be much more passionate about the series than say Superman fans are with Superman. Fans of Superman will like Superman but DBZ fans will love Goku.

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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sat Jul 18, 2015 7:47 am

Some DBZ fans are rather obsessed with power levels and strength, both within the series and in regards to other series... more than most other fandoms I've noticed.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:19 am

Polyphase Avatron wrote:Some DBZ fans are rather obsessed with power levels and strength, both within the series and in regards to other series... more than most other fandoms I've noticed.
Maybe because the series is heavily based around battle powers? Not only we literally had numbers for a short time while most other series don't have, but a battle is almost always decided by who has the greatest battle power. Skill doesn't mean anything (except if you are like Oob in the manga), unless you can raise your battle power through a special technique, and we special abilities such as infinite stamina only count when the fight is even, which is rare.
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James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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