Death Battle: Goku vs Superman 2

[Bullza]

I was interested in how they'd calculate Goku's powers as a God but they didn't do that either this time.

There was really no difference to be had that SSJ God was used here. It could have simply have been SSJ4 Goku or SSJ4 Gogeta or really just any character period. The videos purpose seemed to be just be to explain why Superman was plain unbeatable.

[The Monkey King]

From what I understand, they are using baseline Supes against a composite Goku. Seems fair to me.

Nope, they combined the feats and abilities of 2 different Supermen (Post-C and N52), while they use none of Goku's 'non canon' feats in their analysis.

[pacz360]

I don't get what was the point of this rematch really.fans are bitch about this once again plus why they couldn't wait for super to be done so once again another battle they fucked up again.

[dbzfan7]

They used a less powerful Superman in this match-up, didn't they? Then why did he have less trouble against a stronger Goku? It looks like they really slacked off in the battle, even if it looks great, it should have been much longer though.

They used a composite of new 52 and Post Crisis according to the panel. So if anything you have a more powerful Superman.

Still think there's no point in bothering since Supes is just too insane. Fight was portrayed perfectly actually. Goku knocks Supes around til Supes finally loses his patience and ends it easily.

[SansrivaaL]

Yes Goku is the man that breaks limits but Superman as the guy that has no limits? total BS.
I wanna know how they scaled SSGSS tho, that form has barely no feats besides being pierced by a mob laser.
Fight was boring and fast. First one was way better.

[dbgtFO]

Shouldn't they have mentioned that Beerus has destroyed suns?

Either way, I was surprised they mentioned that Goku being a "Superman clone" was largely due to the dub's fault. Also surprised they portrayed Goku as selfishly as they did, I liked that, he was an asshole this time around. Battle was much better in terms of animation than the next, though I kinda doubt that Superman could just walk through that Kamehameha like it was nothing when he was having trouble handling SSG Goku's Kamehameha a while back in the fight lol.

They went ahead and replicated some of Burst Limit's and Xenoverse's cutscenes too, it really made it better.

They were also inspired some of SS2 Goku's battle scene against Kid Buu from the DBZ Tenkaichi Opening.
Goku kneeing Superman in the back and landing some hits.

[Saiyan007]

They used a less powerful Superman in this match-up, didn't they? Then why did he have less trouble against a stronger Goku? It looks like they really slacked off in the battle, even if it looks great, it should have been much longer though.

They combined Post Crisis and N52 Superman into one person vs Canon Goku

[Dbzk1999]

They handled that very well. I completely agreed with what they said. I love how they made it seem that it wouldn't be right for Goku to beat Superman. Goku represents someone who wants to fight the best while Superman represents the best. Literally nothing can beat Superman... Not even Goku... and I'm totally cool with that. Because if Goku were to beat Superman then he just wouldn't be the Goku we know. It's the same reason why Goku didn't beat Beerus. Goku represents the fighter... Not the winner.

Let's keep it that way because he's so much more of an interesting character.

Now if only there actually WERE beings that couldn't beat superman

[dario03]

They handled that very well. I completely agreed with what they said. I love how they made it seem that it wouldn't be right for Goku to beat Superman. Goku represents someone who wants to fight the best while Superman represents the best. Literally nothing can beat Superman... Not even Goku... and I'm totally cool with that. Because if Goku were to beat Superman then he just wouldn't be the Goku we know. It's the same reason why Goku didn't beat Beerus. Goku represents the fighter... Not the winner.

Let's keep it that way because he's so much more of an interesting character.

But Goku always wins in the end!!! DBZ is all about the heroes winning it doesn't matter if Goku is weaker, he is the underdog of the show he always finds ways to surpass someone since the old school Dragon Ball.

He might surpass people later on but he doesn't always win the actual fight.
Vegeta was beat by Gohan falling on him.
Cell was killed by Gohan after Goku gave up against Cell and later killed by Cell exploding.
Even with Buu Goku only won by borrowing energy from everybody.

[dbzfan7]

Yes Goku is the man that breaks limits but Superman as the guy that has no limits? total BS.
I wanna know how they scaled SSGSS tho, that form has barely no feats besides being pierced by a mob laser.
Fight was boring and fast. First one was way better.

He lifted infinity and he's even more insanely fast than they portrayed last time. I find it hard to believe that there are some people above him like Darkseid. I think by no limits they mean, the writers can literally have him do ANYTHING, and it won't be bullshit.

That is my biggest problem. This fight was really boring. I can think of plenty of memorable moments from the last one, but this one hardly had shit. Only memorable moment was Supes being a boss and walking through Goku's Kamehameha. That's about it. The trailer was more hype than the fight itself.

[The Monkey King]

Also I can't help but find it funny that they used a feat with no time frame to deduce that a technically non-canon Superman is over 1,000,000 times the speed of light while in episode 2 of DBS Beerus has a feat which makes him over 3 billion times the speed of light with a stated time-frame.

It seems that with this match-up Superman supporters seem to forget just how ridiculously powerful DB characters are. Like in their explanation at the end they boasted about how Superman's feats are physically impossible. I mean are Goku's feats possible by comparison or something?

[dario03]

I was expecting n52 supes so was surprised they brought up the Vega flight speed and lifting infinity feats. Especially since IIRC they didn't mention those in the last battle and it would have made a lot of sense to.

[Doctor.]

I really enjoyed MasakoX's voice acting in this, though. I really think he can do a good serious Goku, that SSGSS Kamehameha proves it for me.

[Polyphase Avatron]

They handled that very well. I completely agreed with what they said. I love how they made it seem that it wouldn't be right for Goku to beat Superman. Goku represents someone who wants to fight the best while Superman represents the best. Literally nothing can beat Superman... Not even Goku... and I'm totally cool with that. Because if Goku were to beat Superman then he just wouldn't be the Goku we know. It's the same reason why Goku didn't beat Beerus. Goku represents the fighter... Not the winner.

Let's keep it that way because he's so much more of an interesting character.

You know I can name hundreds of characters from just his own setting (DC Comics) who are stronger than Superman and could beat him (many of them very easily). And many of them have.

[Kamiccolo9]

They handled that very well. I completely agreed with what they said. I love how they made it seem that it wouldn't be right for Goku to beat Superman. Goku represents someone who wants to fight the best while Superman represents the best. Literally nothing can beat Superman... Not even Goku... and I'm totally cool with that. Because if Goku were to beat Superman then he just wouldn't be the Goku we know. It's the same reason why Goku didn't beat Beerus. Goku represents the fighter... Not the winner.

Let's keep it that way because he's so much more of an interesting character.

You know I can name hundreds of characters from just his own setting (DC Comics) who are stronger than Superman and could beat him (many of them very easily). And many of them have.

Same. It's not like Superman is physically unbeatable, he just manages to overcome stuff even when the odds are against him.

Somewhat like a certain stinking monkey from Vegeta, in fact.

[GokuRules987]

This battle was done completely unfair! why? because they used post crisis and 52 superman against some movie version of Goku?

They also tried to make superman somekind of indomitable omnipotent tie breaker hero!?? since when did superman had all that strenght huh? Superman can become limitless thru the power of sun, but before he can reach that level it will take billion of years.
I would like to see if screw attack was to do God Cloth Seiya vs Superman death battle! Seiya could literally punch billions of exploding galaxies at superman in 1 second before he even realizes what hit him and vaporize him beyond existance! lol
And not even pre crisis feats will save him!

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

They mentioned a certain website that does match ups like Death Battle, and for some reason Goku vs Superman debate in that website was ban forever, which site is that ?

[GokuRules987]

They mentioned a certain website that does match ups like Death Battle, and for some reason Goku vs Superman debate in that website was ban forever, which site is that ?

Comicvine

[TheGmGoken]

The fight was boring. Like seriously boring. But predictable outcome. Goku character is someone who trains. Makes sense Superman stronger. Roshi said there's always a stronger man. Have zero issue in this. Just send Gurren Lagann to kill them both.

The trailer was better than the actual fight.

[Daisetsu]

But Goku always wins in the end!!! DBZ is all about the heroes winning it doesn't matter if Goku is weaker, he is the underdog of the show he always finds ways to surpass someone since the old school Dragon Ball.

Yet, he lost to Beerus. And Roshi, Tenshinhan, Piccolo (twice, technically), Cell, Ginyu and Vegeta (again, technically twice). Also, Dragon Ball is all about adventure and Goku working to make himself stronger, not heroes winning.

It all makes sense. Vegeta is the only DBZ character who won his death battle (without the reasoning that if they used Shadow's comic self, his Hyper form should be freaking Superman level as far as I know)

Shadow doesn't have a hyper form... If you're talking about when he takes off those suppressor rings, well he barely managed to put the Ark out of the atmosphere (even with Sonic's help) and he was even in his Super form at the point!