The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Doctor. » Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:54 am

What if Vegeta is the one to go SSG in Super?

I don't think Goku would be the type to ask for the SSG ritual like Vegeta (presumably) did from BoG to F, so what would happen?
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by fadeddreams5 » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:17 pm

Doctor. wrote:What if Vegeta is the one to go SSG in Super?

I don't think Goku would be the type to ask for the SSG ritual like Vegeta (presumably) did from BoG to F, so what would happen?
Vegeta would turn SSJG, and he would lose. Literally everything would happen the same, only the dialogue would be different.
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Doctor. » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:40 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:
Doctor. wrote:What if Vegeta is the one to go SSG in Super?

I don't think Goku would be the type to ask for the SSG ritual like Vegeta (presumably) did from BoG to F, so what would happen?
Vegeta would turn SSJG, and he would lose. Literally everything would happen the same, only the dialogue would be different.
I was kinda asking what would happen in F, since Goku wouldn't be a SSG.
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by fadeddreams5 » Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:22 pm

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Doctor. wrote:What if Vegeta is the one to go SSG in Super?

I don't think Goku would be the type to ask for the SSG ritual like Vegeta (presumably) did from BoG to F, so what would happen?
Vegeta would turn SSJG, and he would lose. Literally everything would happen the same, only the dialogue would be different.
I was kinda asking what would happen in F, since Goku wouldn't be a SSG.
Frieza easily knocks Goku out, but Vegeta saves him and beats Frieza. Unlike Goku, he wouldn't be caught off-guard by Sorbet, and he'd quickly finish the job. I don't think Frieza would have the chance to blow up the planet if Vegeta fought him first. Frieza was already defeated and desperate when Vegeta stepped in after Goku in F.

On-topic - Kid Buu meets the Cell Jrs shortly after blowing up the Earth. They like each other. What happens next?
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Doctor. » Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:24 pm

Wait, what, why, how?! :crazy:

Anyway... the Cell Jrs would be extremely weak and easily killed by SS2 Vegeta while Goku is fighting Boo. What were you trying to propose?
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by singsing » Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:36 pm

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fadeddreams5 wrote:What if Bebi possessed Goku instead of Vegeta?
Not much would have changed, probably. Goku & Vegeta are on the same level, with Goku surpassing him because of Super Saiyan 3. However, Goku can barely stay transformed because of his child body, so Goku-Baby wouldn't be able to use it. So, the story goes on the same with SS4 Vegeta defeating Oozaru Baby.
Except didn't Goku only get his tail back because he was a child (which doesn't make sense since they weren't supposed to grow them back at all because they were too strong, but whatever)? Vegeta wouldn't have gotten his tail back, and I don't think Bulma woulda thought to invent a Bruitz wave generator given zero context.
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by fadeddreams5 » Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:46 pm

Doctor. wrote:Wait, what, why, how?! :crazy:

Anyway... the Cell Jrs would be extremely weak and easily killed by SS2 Vegeta while Goku is fighting Boo. What were you trying to propose?
Happy fun time!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqhfLTsEeZg

Only with... murder involved...
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Alex9196 » Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:59 pm

what if the old kai awakened gokus powers instead of gohans? do you think mystic goku would have been stronger than gohan? and also would he make the same mistakes against buu, letting him absorb gotenks and piccolo.
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by singsing » Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:25 pm

Alex9196 wrote:what if the old kai awakened gokus powers instead of gohans? do you think mystic goku would have been stronger than gohan? and also would he make the same mistakes against buu, letting him absorb gotenks and piccolo.
Nope, at that point in the series Gohan still had the highest potential.
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by fadeddreams5 » Thu Jul 16, 2015 12:54 am

Beerus visits the Earth to get a cake Bulma promised him. As he is about to take his first bite, a green ball of energy vaporizes Bulma's party scene and his cake. It's Broly. Beerus, infuriated, charges at Broly, only to realize nothing he does can hurt Broly because Beerus is not the protagonist. The rest of the Z-fighters are in shock, but decide to fight anyways. Mr. Satan, the main character of this story, is drunk in the background. What happens next?
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Alex9196 » Thu Jul 16, 2015 1:55 am

Mr. Satan charges at Broly thinking he is dreaming like against buu. as he is about to use his dynamite kick, broly gets behind him and uses the move he used against gohan in brolys second coming and presses his knee in Satans back. then he rips out his arms and kills him. after mr satan gone broly fights with beerus and the others in a serious fight. the others probably win and due to poor planing on brolys part satan gets wished back with the dragon balls, since this guy managed to be the ONLY HUMAN who didnt die on earth yet, claims fame and fortune others should get and gets away with everything.
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:18 pm

singsing wrote:Except didn't Goku only get his tail back because he was a child (which doesn't make sense since they weren't supposed to grow them back at all because they were too strong, but whatever)?
Goku being a kid had nothing to do with his tail.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by LightBing » Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:39 pm

What if Tsuru-Sennin was Goku's first master?
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:43 pm

LightBing wrote:What if Tsuru-Sennin was Goku's first master?
Goku becomes Turles.
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:05 pm

What if Tien, Yamcha, Krillin, & Chazou trained in the Room of Spirit and Time to prepare for Vegeta & Nappa. How strong would they be and what could have happen in the Saiyan saga?
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by LightBing » Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:45 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:What if Tenshinhan, Yamcha, Krillin, & Chazou trained in the Room of Spirit and Time to prepare for Vegeta & Nappa. How strong would they be and what could have happen in the Saiyan saga?
If they trained for a full year and in pairs they would be at their Android Saga levels, at least. Chiaotzu would solo the invading forces.
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by LightBing » Sun Jul 19, 2015 12:48 pm

What if Vegeta successfully destroyed the Earth with his galick gun, awakening Buu.
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Alex9196 » Sun Jul 19, 2015 1:05 pm

LightBing wrote:What if Vegeta successfully destroyed the Earth with his galick gun, awakening Buu.
buu would have shattered some planets. freeza would eventually notice him and train to beat him. it depends how fast they meet and how much time freeza has to train. if he has enough he beats buu and is the emporor of the universe, at least until beerus wakes up many years later.

if he doesnt have enough time buu kills him and keeps going on destroying planets until whis notices it. he would either wake up beerus to take care of him or do it himself.
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:46 pm

So what if Vegeta went SSj2 after Cell killed Future Trunks. Would things be the same or different?
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Doctor. » Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:51 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:So what if Vegeta went SSj2 after Cell killed Future Trunks. Would things be the same or different?
Vegeta would at best reach SS Gohan's strength, maybe full-power Cell if he's lucky. The outcome would be the same, Cell would tank the hit, then proceed to one shot him, resulting in Gohan having to step in.

Vegeta reaching SS2 so soon could have serious implications in the Boo arc though, he could reach SS3 now that he isn't worried about reaching SS2.
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