The moral alignment of Beerus

[Polyphase Avatron]

I'm confused as to why the Kaioshin are making a big deal out of Beerus. If his job is really necessary, than they should understand he does what needs to be done. I could understand they fear Goku would get himself and his world killed, but outside that it's still apparently necessary. So they should probably highlight that more instead of "Oh shit Beerus is back, how many worlds will be destoryed." I'd think they'd say. "Beerus has awoken, tis a shame some worlds will have to go."

Well it's like when there's a hurricane, earthquake, or a volcanic eruption. It's part of nature and has to take its course, but it's really dangerous and still something to worry about.

[Rocketman]

What I meant was, for example, how Chichi is always telling him he needs to make money, he never once considers just robbing a bank or something, even though he easily could.

That's still covered under "Good", not "Lawful".

[Kamiccolo9]

What I meant was, for example, how Chichi is always telling him he needs to make money, he never once considers just robbing a bank or something, even though he easily could.

That's still covered under "Good", not "Lawful".

I wouldn't be surprised if Goku considered it only for Chi-Chi to explain to him that it's wrong to steal.

[dbzfan7]

I'm confused as to why the Kaioshin are making a big deal out of Beerus. If his job is really necessary, than they should understand he does what needs to be done. I could understand they fear Goku would get himself and his world killed, but outside that it's still apparently necessary. So they should probably highlight that more instead of "Oh shit Beerus is back, how many worlds will be destoryed." I'd think they'd say. "Beerus has awoken, tis a shame some worlds will have to go."

Well it's like when there's a hurricane, earthquake, or a volcanic eruption. It's part of nature and has to take its course, but it's really dangerous and still something to worry about.

That's not considered necessary for the world. At least I don't think so. Beerus is necessary, but they act like he is a plague and it's horrible thing he's back. If anything they should be more appreciative that he's bring supposed balance.

[singsing]

I'm confused as to why the Kaioshin are making a big deal out of Beerus. If his job is really necessary, than they should understand he does what needs to be done. I could understand they fear Goku would get himself and his world killed, but outside that it's still apparently necessary. So they should probably highlight that more instead of "Oh shit Beerus is back, how many worlds will be destoryed." I'd think they'd say. "Beerus has awoken, tis a shame some worlds will have to go."

Well it's like when there's a hurricane, earthquake, or a volcanic eruption. It's part of nature and has to take its course, but it's really dangerous and still something to worry about.

That's not considered necessary for the world. At least I don't think so. Beerus is necessary, but they act like he is a plague and it's horrible thing he's back. If anything they should be more appreciative that he's bring supposed balance.

Well they're gods of creation and naturally would be upset their polar opposite is going around doing things they find terrible. It's a necessity sure, but your first quote pretty much sums it up. They're ready and resigned to the worlds being destroyed, and hope not too many will be lost.

[Polyphase Avatron]

I'm confused as to why the Kaioshin are making a big deal out of Beerus. If his job is really necessary, than they should understand he does what needs to be done. I could understand they fear Goku would get himself and his world killed, but outside that it's still apparently necessary. So they should probably highlight that more instead of "Oh shit Beerus is back, how many worlds will be destoryed." I'd think they'd say. "Beerus has awoken, tis a shame some worlds will have to go."

Well it's like when there's a hurricane, earthquake, or a volcanic eruption. It's part of nature and has to take its course, but it's really dangerous and still something to worry about.

That's not considered necessary for the world. At least I don't think so. Beerus is necessary, but they act like he is a plague and it's horrible thing he's back. If anything they should be more appreciative that he's bring supposed balance.

Actually those things are necessary in a way because the atmosphere needs to be cycled and the tectonic stresses inside the Earth need to be released.

[dbzfan7]

That's not considered necessary for the world. At least I don't think so. Beerus is necessary, but they act like he is a plague and it's horrible thing he's back. If anything they should be more appreciative that he's bring supposed balance.

Actually those things are necessary in a way because the atmosphere needs to be cycled and the tectonic stresses inside the Earth need to be released.

That's interesting. Even so they don't seem to at all treat his return as necessary kinda like atmospheric needs as you say it. Though in reality neither do we. Though I think a balance that effects the universe is kinda a much bigger necessity than just one planet.

That's not considered necessary for the world. At least I don't think so. Beerus is necessary, but they act like he is a plague and it's horrible thing he's back. If anything they should be more appreciative that he's bring supposed balance.

Well they're gods of creation and naturally would be upset their polar opposite is going around doing things they find terrible. It's a necessity sure, but your first quote pretty much sums it up. They're ready and resigned to the worlds being destroyed, and hope not too many will be lost.

They don't seem to imply that. They seem to imply more that Beerus is a plague more than anything from the comments I'm seeing.

[Doctor.]

In this week's episode of Super, Elder Kaioshin just said Beerus' job has no purpose. So where do we stand now? It's obvious he's just being allowed to do as he pleases because of his strength.

[Alex9196]

In this week's episode of Super, Elder Kaioshin just said Beerus' job has no purpose. So where do we stand now? It's obvious he's just being allowed to do as he pleases because of his strength.

thats kind of what i thought, but then why is this title there? and what i also asked me, why doesnt whis claim it if he is far stronger. also beerus doesnt seem to be a character who is still training. i mean he slept for around 40 years or so period.

[singsing]

In this week's episode of Super, Elder Kaioshin just said Beerus' job has no purpose. So where do we stand now? It's obvious he's just being allowed to do as he pleases because of his strength.

thats kind of what i thought, but then why is this title there? and what i also asked me, why doesnt whis claim it if he is far stronger. also beerus doesnt seem to be a character who is still training. i mean he slept for around 40 years or so period.

Cause he's Whis, he just doesn't care

[Birusu16]

In this week's episode of Super, Elder Kaioshin just said Beerus' job has no purpose. So where do we stand now? It's obvious he's just being allowed to do as he pleases because of his strength.

thats kind of what i thought, but then why is this title there? and what i also asked me, why doesnt whis claim it if he is far stronger. also beerus doesnt seem to be a character who is still training. i mean he slept for around 40 years or so period.

Probably because it's not a title.

[Alex9196]

what would it be then? it seems like whis chooses who gets to be god of destruction, since he asked goku. so if goku would say yes, he would be the god of destruction. so its a title.

[Birusu16]

what would it be then? it seems like whis chooses who gets to be god of destruction, since he asked goku. so if goku would say yes, he would be the god of destruction. so its a title.

He's likely like the Kaioshin. Born as deities. Episode 3 of Super pretty much said that the Gods of Destruction are essentially mirror images of Kaioshin except they destroy and take life whereas the Kaioshin create and give life. I don't put much stock into that statement from Whis and I see it as being retconned in Super. One thing's for sure it's certainly not a title. This episode makes that clear as he has no specific job.

[Alex9196]

oh wait i am gonna tell you my new opinion later. havent watched ep 3 by now.

[rereboy]

In this week's episode of Super, Elder Kaioshin just said Beerus' job has no purpose. So where do we stand now? It's obvious he's just being allowed to do as he pleases because of his strength.

No, he says Beerus' actions have no purpose (other that satisfying his whims), not his job.

Kaioshin starts by explaining a bit about gods of destruction, saying that they are the opposite of the gods of creation, thus implying that its a matter of balance. Then he talks about Beerus and how he acts with no purpose other than satisfying his whims.

Like I said in another topic, the role of God of destruction =/= Beerus. Just like the old Kaioshin is a much better Kaioshin than the young one, there are people out there who would be better god of destruction and worse gods of destruction.

We saw Beerus hint at someone else taking over the role of god of destruction in his movie. Obviously, that someone wouldn't act exactly like Beerus. As we know, Beerus doesn't act because of his job and its purpose, only because of his whims. Someone who had that role and actually acted solely in line with the purposes of his job, would be a better god of destruction.

Fans shouldn't believe that everything that Beerus does is the best way to be the god of destruction just because he is the current god of destruction. That would be like saying that everything that Kami did as Kami is flawles while what Dende does as Kami is also flawless, when its obvious that they won't act exactly the same way, so, obviously, one of them would have a better response regarding certain situations than the other one.

[Lord Frieza]

In this week's episode of Super, Elder Kaioshin just said Beerus' job has no purpose. So where do we stand now? It's obvious he's just being allowed to do as he pleases because of his strength.

No, he says Beerus' actions have no purpose (other that satisfying his whims), not his job.

Kaioshin starts by explaining a bit about gods of destruction, saying that they are the opposite of the gods of creation, thus implying that its a matter of balance. Then he talks about Beerus and how he acts with no purpose other than satisfying his whims.

Like I said in another topic, the role of God of destruction =/= Beerus. Just like the old Kaioshin is a much better Kaioshin than the young one, there are people out there who would be better god of destruction and worse gods of destruction.

We saw Beerus hint at someone else taking over the role of god of destruction in his movie. Obviously, that someone wouldn't act exactly like Beerus. As we know, Beerus doesn't act because of his job and its purpose, only because of his whims. Someone who had that role and actually acted solely in line with the purposes of his job, would be a better god of destruction.

Fans shouldn't believe that everything that Beerus does is the best way to be the god of destruction just because he is the current god of destruction. That would be like saying that everything that Kami did as Kami is flawles while what Dende does as Kami is also flawless, when its obvious that they won't act exactly the same way, so, obviously, one of them would have a better response regarding certain situations than the other one.

This is why I really want to get to Champa so we can compare the two Gods of Destruction. Really thought while he dose abuse his power somewhat Beerus's job is to destroy. Whats more fare that he constantly way up the value of every planet and person or instead act like an unpredictable force of nature that destroys all equally.

Besides its not like Beerus is free to do as he like, at least not fully. He is bound to Whis in more ways then one. He cannot teleport to anywhere in the universe or see whats going on in far off places like the other gods can. Without Whis he'd might be trapped at his temple and would have no idea whats been happening while he was asleep. Plus if he ever step out of line Whis can just beat him up and rewind time. Its funny, The God of Destruction is kind of shackled to his/her Attendant. I guess thats how they keep them from misbehaving.

[ekrolo2]

Super makes it pretty clear that Beerus is kind of a bad God of Destruction in that he doesn't really put much thought into his decisions to destroy worlds. He does it on a whim and his reasoning for it is quite petty which makes him pretty f*cking dangerous to anyone who runs into him. He's kind of like the Greek Gods in that respect, all powerful beings who let their own huge personality flaws constantly dictate their actions.

[shadd21]

Since Super implied that Beerus is a "bad" Hakaishin, i wonder if his fight with Goku will inspire him to change his ways and not destroy planets on a whem, If Goku's "Quit Enjoying the Destruction" line from BoG is any indication, he definitely wouldn't approve of Beerus' actions.

[ParkerAL]

While Dragon Ball Super has shown Beerus being a huge asshole and even enjoying the destructive nature of his job, I still wouldn't call him evil in the way Freeza was evil. We've seen Freeza kill, torture and torment people and take immense pleasure from doing so. All the people we've seen Beerus kill went out in a near instantaneous planetary exposition. When facing individuals, he's always knocked them, even the alien from episode 2. So at the very least, he doesn't share the personal sadism displayed by other Dragon Ball villians.