The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Alex9196]

Yajirobe vs Jaco

If it's Minus Jaco he get sliced and eaten. FnF Jaco easily destroys Yajirobe, if Gohan lost power for slacking off, imagine how much Yajirobe did. Even if he didn't lost power he would still lose.

Restricted Super Saiyan Broly (Movie vs. Super Saiyan Grade 3 Trunks (1st day ROSAT - no speed issues)

Trunks has a massive power advantage, put a RR stamp on Broly and he doesn't even last a second.

New Fights:
Grandpa Gohan vs Kuririn(22nd Tenkaichi Budokai)

Kaioshin, Piccolo(Buu Saga), SSJ Kid Trunks and SSJ Kid Goten(Both before Rosat) vs Perfect Cell - Cell Jr voided

Punta vs Ranfan

Tenshinhan(Buu Saga) vs Yakon - Assume he mastered Kaioken, how much depends on your take of the character.

grandpa gohan

perfect cell

punta vs ranfan depends on how much of a pervert he is

tenshinhan

[Captain Space]

New Fights:
Grandpa Gohan vs Kuririn(22nd Tenkaichi Budokai)

Kaioshin, Piccolo(Buu Saga), SSJ Kid Trunks and SSJ Kid Goten(Both before Rosat) vs Perfect Cell - Cell Jr voided

Punta vs Ranfan

Tenshinhan(Buu Saga) vs Yakon - Assume he mastered Kaioken, how much depends on your take of the character.

-Not sure.

-Cell. Piccolo is the only one who's anything like a threat to him, and Cell should be able to take him out quickly enough.

-I got the impression that the 'level of competition' in the later Tenkaichi Budokai was much lower than it had been in the pre-Z era. Punta was presumably weaker than Mr. Satan. Even if Ranfan's distraction tactics don't work (and they probably will, this isn't exactly a genius she's up against), I really don't see Mark Satan, or anyone weaker than him, managing to knock around even a distracted Nam. So, Ranfan.

-Hmm...you might say Yakon was only 3-4 times weaker than SSJ/SSJ2 Goku, but then I doubt kili/kiri scale linearly given the whole "you can destroy a planet with 200-300" thing.

But still Yakon is probably much stronger, and using Kaioken isn't a good idea (emits light for Yakon to eat and tires the user out). So...I guess it comes down to if Yakon will sneak and hide rather than going for an immediate deathblow (probably), and if Tenshinhan can find him (probably) and nail him with a (maybe Kaioken-powered if necessary) Kikoho. So...maybe 60/40 in Tenshinhan's favour?

[supercat]

do you think a gotenks fused with portara earings could have beaten super buu?

SSJ3 Gotenks has already proven that he was a match for Super Buu, and that was while he was fooling around. Take away the horseplay and toss in the increased multipliers from the Potara, and Super Buu has no chance.

what about the other way around. do you think if vegeta and goku fused without portara they would habe been able to defeat buuhan? obviously vegetto could have easily killed buu but he wanted to rescue the absorbed friends.

Base Gogeta would probably take a beating from Buuhan, but the tables would turn instantly the second he goes Super Saiyan.

While the Potara fusion does yield a more substantial multiplier than the fusion dance, because the gap between Vegetto and Buuhan is so immense, there's still plenty of room for Gogeta to fall somewhere in-between.

[ZombieVito]

New Fights:
Grandpa Gohan vs Kuririn(22nd Tenkaichi Budokai)

Kaioshin, Piccolo(Buu Saga), SSJ Kid Trunks and SSJ Kid Goten(Both before Rosat) vs Perfect Cell - Cell Jr voided

Punta vs Ranfan

Tenshinhan(Buu Saga) vs Yakon - Assume he mastered Kaioken, how much depends on your take of the character.

Kuririn one shots.
Kaioshin paralyzes Cell while the rest charge a super attack and vaporize him.
Ranfan one shots.
Yakon still one shots.

[supercat]

New Fights:
Grandpa Gohan vs Kuririn(22nd Tenkaichi Budokai)

Kaioshin, Piccolo(Buu Saga), SSJ Kid Trunks and SSJ Kid Goten(Both before Rosat) vs Perfect Cell - Cell Jr voided

Punta vs Ranfan

Tenshinhan(Buu Saga) vs Yakon - Assume he mastered Kaioken, how much depends on your take of the character.

-Krillin one-shots.

-Kaioshin should be able to defeat Perfect Cell with moderate levels of difficulty.
-Personally, I could see Piccolo closing in on the biological android's perfect form by the Buu arc, so I'd say it could go either way.
-Both Trunks and Goten get taken down in a matter of seconds

-On the very high end, I have Tien at around 1,500,000 - 2,000,000, so with Kaioken x10 he might have a chance.

[LightBing]

Super Perfect Cell with Kaioken x10 vs Super Boo

Metal Cooler vs Future Gohan

SSJ3 Goku and Vegeta (Both Boo Arc) vs Pure Boo and First Form Freeza(FnF)

[Captain Space]

Super Perfect Cell with Kaioken x10 vs Super Boo

Metal Cooler vs Future Gohan

SSJ3 Goku and Vegeta (Both Boo Arc) vs Pure Boo and First Form Freeza(FnF)

Even if a x10 boost brings him up to Buu's level, Cell won't be able to sustain it for long enough, and Buu can take it. So, Buu.

Meta-Cooler > SSJ vegeta > SSJ Future Trunks ~ SSJ Future Gohan, so Cooler.

Either of them should be able to take Buu if they both have SSJ3. But Freeza's power is...kind of impossible to guess at. "Between weakened-as-all-hell SSJ Gohan and Godku" is a pretty wide margin for him to fit into somewhere.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Super Perfect Cell with Kaioken x10 vs Super Boo

Metal Cooler vs Future Gohan

SSJ3 Goku and Vegeta (Both Boo Arc) vs Pure Boo and First Form Freeza(FnF)

-Cell gets slaughtered.
-Two-armed or one-armed? Either way he's losing badly, the latter might last an extra second.
-I don't know.

[Lord Beerus]

Super Perfect Cell with Kaioken x10 vs Super Boo

Metal Cooler vs Future Gohan

SSJ3 Goku and Vegeta (Both Boo Arc) vs Pure Boo and First Form Freeza(FnF)

- Super Boo crushes SPC
- Future Gohan gets slaughtered
- If stamina is not a an issue, I see Goku and Vegeta pulling this one out of the bag.

[Blocky]

Base 25th WMAT Goku vs Imperfect Cell (Pre-Human absorption)
Great Ape Buuhan vs SSJ1 Vegito
SPC's using Shin-Kikoho and Kaioken at the same time vs SSJ2 Gohan's Father-Son Kamehameha
SSJ Raditz and and SSJ Nappa vs The Ginyu Force
Mystic Broly (M10) vs Buutenks
Goku + Gohan Fusion Potara (Buu Sega) vs Vegito

[Captain Space]

Base 25th WMAT Goku vs Imperfect Cell (Pre-Human absorption)
Great Ape Buuhan vs SSJ1 Vegito
SPC's using Shin-Kikoho and Kaioken at the same time vs SSJ2 Gohan's Father-Son Kamehameha
SSJ Raditz and and SSJ Nappa vs The Ginyu Force
Mystic Broly (M10) vs Buutenks
Goku + Gohan Fusion Potara (Buu Sega) vs Vegito

Given that Trunks wasn't too far below him if at all in base, Goku.

Buuhan gets stronger, but not faster; this plays out like grade 3 Trunks vs. Cell. Vegetto still wins.

Cell, no question.

Depends on what you think SSJ does, and if any body-changing tomfoolery happens.

Buutenks. Movie 10 Broly is probably around the same level as, or not that much higher than, post-Z-sword-training SSJ2 Gohan, and Gohan specifically had a lot of hidden potential to draw out.

This is another opinionated one (rival thing vs. difference between Gohan and Vegeta's power)...I'm gonna say the Goku-Gohan fusion.

[supercat]

Super Perfect Cell with Kaioken x10 vs Super Boo

Metal Cooler vs Future Gohan

SSJ3 Goku and Vegeta (Both Boo Arc) vs Pure Boo and First Form Freeza(FnF)

Super Buu one-shots.

Future Gohan takes a worse beating than he did against 17.

After watching Goku and Vegeta toss Kid Buu around, Frieza decides to step in and exact his revenge. With the utmost ease, the tyrant crushes both Saiyans and subjects them to the worst pain they've ever felt. Thrilled with his victory, the emperor of evil offers Kid Buu a position as one of his elites. Not knowing what to make of his job offer, Kid Buu rushes Frieza for the sheer purpose of torturing another being. Disgusted with the vile menace, Frieza obliterates him after giving him a good beating.

[Lord Beerus]

Base 25th WMAT Goku vs Imperfect Cell (Pre-Human absorption)
Great Ape Buuhan vs SSJ1 Vegito
SPC's using Shin-Kikoho and Kaioken at the same time vs SSJ2 Gohan's Father-Son Kamehameha
SSJ Raditz and and SSJ Nappa vs The Ginyu Force
Mystic Broly (M10) vs Buutenks
Goku + Gohan Fusion Potara (Buu Sega) vs Vegito

- Goku brushed Cell aside like a dry, old leaf
- Vegetto still one shots
- SSJ2 Gohan still overpowers SPC
- SSJ Nappa and Raditz win
- Buutenks is way above SSJ2 tier, which Movie 10 Broly would be in, so Buutenks wins comfortably
- Goku/Gohan should yield a stronger fusion in comparison to Vegetto. So I'm backin Goku/Gohan

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Base 25th WMAT Goku vs Imperfect Cell (Pre-Human absorption)

Base Goku wins, without transforming.

Great Ape Buuhan vs SSJ1 Vegito

Lol wut? If it's 10x Gohan-Boo, he'd have a big power advantage, but bad speed disadvantage. I will give it to Vegetto 8/10 times.

SSJ Raditz and and SSJ Nappa vs The Ginyu Force

Rough numbers...

Raditz: 1,350
-Super Saiyan: 67,500

Nappa: 7,500
-Super Saiyan: 375,000

Gurd: 9,000

Reacoom/Butta/Jheese: 36,000

Cap'n Ginyu: 120,000

Nappa would solo. Raditz can beat any besides Ginyu.

Goku + Gohan Fusion Potara (Buu Sega) vs Vegito

Vegetto gets slaughtered, if Base Gokhan can handle Gotenks-Boo, he's well above Vegetto IMO.

[supercat]

Base 25th WMAT Goku vs Imperfect Cell (Pre-Human absorption)
Great Ape Buuhan vs SSJ1 Vegito
SPC's using Shin-Kikoho and Kaioken at the same time vs SSJ2 Gohan's Father-Son Kamehameha
SSJ Raditz and and SSJ Nappa vs The Ginyu Force
Mystic Broly (M10) vs Buutenks
Goku + Gohan Fusion Potara (Buu Sega) vs Vegito

-Goku crushes the giant insect.

-The gap between Buuhan and Vegetto was larger than 10x in my opinion, so the former still gets destroyed.

-Super Perfect Cell was already holding his own against that Kamehameha, so with the Shin Kikoho and the Kaioken at his disposal, he would win with the utmost ease.

-Barring Guldo's time freezing abilities and Ginyu's body swapping technique, Nappa alone could handle everyone including the captain himself with relative ease. Raditz on the other hand should be able to casually trump everyone with the exclusion of Ginyu.

-Not sure what kind of boost Broly would get, but I'd be exceptionally surprised if he caught up to someone like Buutenks.

-If the father son fusion obtains the same multipliers that Goku and Vegeta obtained, Vegetto doesn't stand a chance. Ultimate Gohan was far above any level of power that Vegeta was able to display in the Buu arc.

[Alex9196]

Base 25th WMAT Goku vs Imperfect Cell (Pre-Human absorption)
Great Ape Buuhan vs SSJ1 Vegito
SPC's using Shin-Kikoho and Kaioken at the same time vs SSJ2 Gohan's Father-Son Kamehameha
SSJ Raditz and and SSJ Nappa vs The Ginyu Force
Mystic Broly (M10) vs Buutenks
Goku + Gohan Fusion Potara (Buu Sega) vs Vegito

nappa wouldnt be able to transform because he has no hair. the ginyu force allready celebrates their victory, but then radditz goes straight ssj3, since he has the hair.

[Draconic]

Sorry if already answered but: Raditz vs Tarble

[Captain Space]

Sorry if already answered but: Raditz vs Tarble

Raditz. The saiyan with full combat training and experience versus the saiyan with very little to none of the above.

[supercat]

Sorry if already answered but: Raditz vs Tarble

The fact that Tarble was sent away to a remote location tells me that he is simply not meant for combat. With that said, I'm beginning to wonder if King Vegeta sent his son away from the potential dangers heading their way because he deeply treasured him.

[Alex9196]

Sorry if already answered but: Raditz vs Tarble

The fact that Tarble was sent away to a remote location tells me that he is simply not meant for combat. With that said, I'm beginning to wonder if King Vegeta sent his son away from the potential dangers heading their way because he deeply treasured him.

for me its clear that he was scum to him. like vegeta didnt give a shit about killing his long year comrad nappa, i dont think his father would have problems sending away his son, especially since he allready had vegeta and the saiyans send their babys away anyway. its not a big deal to most of them

i wonder what king vegeta would have done with broly if he was his son. i dont think he would have tried to murder him than.