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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:17 pm

Noah wrote:I'm trying to do MOVIE 5 BP list:
Is that list okay? What else could I change?
So Kuririn did not improved at all in ~ 2 years?
Gohan is way too high.
I'll bump Piccolo a lot higher. He rivaled Vegeta in the Trunks saga.
Goku is way too high after the Zenkai.
Freeza > Cooler in their True forms.

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Vegito Gogeta power comparison

Post by Chou_Gohan » Tue Jul 21, 2015 7:47 pm

How do you believe Gogeta and Vegito compare to each other in different forms? This is my view:

SSjin 3 Vegito>SSjin 3 Gogeta>>SSjin 2 Vegito>SSjin 2 Gogeta>SSjin Vegito>SSjin Gogeta>>>Base Vegito>Base Gogeta

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:09 pm

Super Saiyan 3 Vegetto > Super Saiyan 2 Vegetto > Super Saiyan Vegetto > Base Vegetto ~ Super Saiyan 3 Gogeta > Super Saiyan 2 Gogeta > Super Saiyan Gogeta > Base Gogeta

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by Doctor. » Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:13 pm

Super Saiyan Vegetto > Super Boo Gohan > Super Boo Gotenks > Super Saiyan 3 Gogeta > Super Saiyan 2 Gogeta > Super Saiyan Gogeta >> SS3 Goku ~/> Base Vegetto >> Base Gogeta

Around that much, obviously SS2 and SS3 Vegetto would break the scale.

I put Gogeta so weak, because the difference between a Goku and Vegeta fusion shouldn't be too superior to a Goten and Trunks one. Plus, Gotenks Boo said that he'd beat a hyphotetical Goku + Gohan fusion, and Gohan Boo said he'd beat a Goku + Vegeta fusion.

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:32 pm

Doctor. wrote:I put Gogeta so weak, because the difference between a Goku and Vegeta fusion shouldn't be too superior to a Goten and Trunks one. Plus, Gotenks Boo said that he'd beat a hypothetical Goku + Gohan fusion, and Gohan Boo said he'd beat a Goku + Vegeta fusion.
I probably should've elaborated on my reasoning. I more or less agree with this. Gohan-Boo said a fusion of Goku and Vegeta was no match for him, and I personally don't see a reason for why strongest form wouldn't be assumed, as it usually is in any power comparison.

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by supercat » Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:16 pm

SSJ Vegetto > SSJ Gogeta > Buuhan > / = Base Vegetto > Buutenks > Base Gogeta

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by Noah » Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:19 pm

Zombie wrote:So Kuririn did not improved at all in ~ 2 years?
Gohan is way too high.
I'll bump Piccolo a lot higher. He rivaled Vegeta in the Trunks saga.
Goku is way too high after the Zenkai.
Freeza > Cooler in their True forms.
So what power level do you think Krillin and Gohan should had?

What makes you say that Freeza > Cooler? Since Cooler confirms in Movie 5 that he is above Freeza and even more in his Fifth Form?
Doctor. wrote:Super Saiyan Vegetto > Super Boo Gohan > Super Boo Gotenks > Super Saiyan 3 Gogeta > Super Saiyan 2 Gogeta > Super Saiyan Gogeta >> SS3 Goku ~/> Base Vegetto >> Base Gogeta
I agree with that but, you think that Gogeta and Gotenks are evenly matched?
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Can this tie in BoG & FnF in with EOZ?

Post by h0kuten » Tue Jul 21, 2015 11:32 pm

I've been playing around with my numbers a little bit and attempted to tie in FnF and BoG in with EOZ. It will take all SSJG transformations and only make them superior to Super Vegetto. Do you think these numbers work? It really decreases the bloat.

Buu Saga

Goku
~Ssj3 36,000,000,000

Super Buu
~Full Power 1,000,000,000,000
Buutenks
~Full Power 2,200,000,000,000
Buuhan
~Full Power 2,800,000,000,000

Vegetto
~Base 2,000,000,000,000
~Ssj 10,000,000,000,000

BoG

Goku
~SSJG 10,800,000,000,000 (BoG)
~SSJG SS 14,400,000,000,000 (FnF)

Beerus
~Full Power 18,000,000,000,000
Whiss
~Full Power 27,000,000,000,000

Goku EOZ
~Base 36,000,000,000
[~Ssj 1,800,000,000,000]
[~Ssj2 3,600,000,000,000]
[~Ssj3 14,400,000,000,000]

Uub
~Calm 5
~Angry 40,000,000,000

What do you think?

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Re: Can this tie in BoG & FnF in with EOZ?

Post by supercat » Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:17 am

h0kuten wrote:I've been playing around with my numbers a little bit and attempted to tie in FnF and BoG in with EOZ. It will take all SSJG transformations and only make them superior to Super Vegetto. Do you think these numbers work? It really decreases the bloat.

Buu Saga

Goku
~Ssj3 36,000,000,000

Super Buu
~Full Power 1,000,000,000,000
Buutenks
~Full Power 2,200,000,000,000
Buuhan
~Full Power 2,800,000,000,000

Vegetto
~Base 2,000,000,000,000
~Ssj 10,000,000,000,000

BoG

Goku
~SSJG 10,800,000,000,000 (BoG)
~SSJG SS 14,400,000,000,000 (FnF)

Beerus
~Full Power 18,000,000,000,000
Whiss
~Full Power 27,000,000,000,000

Goku EOZ
~Base 36,000,000,000
[~Ssj 1,800,000,000,000]
[~Ssj2 3,600,000,000,000]
[~Ssj3 14,400,000,000,000]

Uub
~Calm 5
~Angry 40,000,000,000

What do you think?
Looks really good. I'd say Base Vegetto could be a little higher, but honestly I feel it could go either way.

Other than that, the only other ones I disagree with are Beerus, Whis, and SSG Goku. You do have SSG Goku (BoG) at 60% of Beerus, which is accurate. However, the way I see it, since SSJ Vegetto is more or less around 20% of Beerus, the trio should be a lot higher.

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Re: Vegito Gogeta power comparison

Post by Kaboom » Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:28 am

Chou_Gohan wrote:How do you believe Gogeta and Vegito compare to each other in different forms?
I've never bought that there was some gigantic difference between Gogeta and Vegetto, or Potara and the Fusion Dance in general. I think that Goku and Vegeta just make for a particularly effective Fusion, math and "logic" be damned, and that all else being equal, the ideal Potara Fusion will be "only" be a few times stronger than the ideal Dance Fusion.

So Super Vegetto and Super Gogeta are the #1 and #2 strongest characters in the original story, and everyone else is competing for third place. Whatever form Vegetto is using, Gogeta would need to use one higher to contend with or defeat him. If I were to take the official Super Saiyan multipliers into account and then rank the two Fusions in terms of power (because ">" chains are annoying and asinine) ...

1) SS3 Vegetto
2) SS2 Vegetto
3) SS3 Gogeta
4) SS1 Vegetto
5) SS2 Gogeta
6) SS1 Gogeta
7) Gohan-Boo


...I guess it'd be something like that.
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Re: Vegito Gogeta power comparison

Post by supercat » Wed Jul 22, 2015 2:02 am

Kaboom wrote:
Chou_Gohan wrote:How do you believe Gogeta and Vegito compare to each other in different forms?
I've never bought that there was some gigantic difference between Gogeta and Vegetto, or Potara and the Fusion Dance in general. I think that Goku and Vegeta just make for a particularly effective Fusion, math and "logic" be damned, and that all else being equal, the ideal Potara Fusion will be "only" be a few times stronger than the ideal Dance Fusion.

So Super Vegetto and Super Gogeta are the #1 and #2 strongest characters in the original story, and everyone else is competing for third place. Whatever form Vegetto is using, Gogeta would need to use one higher to contend with or defeat him. If I were to take the official Super Saiyan multipliers into account and then rank the two Fusions in terms of power (because ">" chains are annoying and asinine) ...

1) SS3 Vegetto
2) SS2 Vegetto
3) SS3 Gogeta
4) SS1 Vegetto
5) SS2 Gogeta
6) SS1 Gogeta
7) Gohan-Boo


...I guess it'd be something like that.
Finally someone who agrees with me in regards to where Vegetto and Gogeta potentially stand.

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Wed Jul 22, 2015 2:57 am

Noah wrote:
Zombie wrote:So Kuririn did not improved at all in ~ 2 years?
Gohan is way too high.
I'll bump Piccolo a lot higher. He rivaled Vegeta in the Trunks saga.
Goku is way too high after the Zenkai.
Freeza > Cooler in their True forms.
So what power level do you think Krillin and Gohan should had?

What makes you say that Freeza > Cooler? Since Cooler confirms in Movie 5 that he is above Freeza and even more in his Fifth Form?
Kuririn: 110,000
Gohan: 450,000

I don't remember where but it was confirmed Cooler only surpassed Freeza when he unlocked his 5th form.

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Re: Vegito Gogeta power comparison

Post by miguelnuva1 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:49 am

supercat wrote:
Kaboom wrote:
Chou_Gohan wrote:How do you believe Gogeta and Vegito compare to each other in different forms?
I've never bought that there was some gigantic difference between Gogeta and Vegetto, or Potara and the Fusion Dance in general. I think that Goku and Vegeta just make for a particularly effective Fusion, math and "logic" be damned, and that all else being equal, the ideal Potara Fusion will be "only" be a few times stronger than the ideal Dance Fusion.

So Super Vegetto and Super Gogeta are the #1 and #2 strongest characters in the original story, and everyone else is competing for third place. Whatever form Vegetto is using, Gogeta would need to use one higher to contend with or defeat him. If I were to take the official Super Saiyan multipliers into account and then rank the two Fusions in terms of power (because ">" chains are annoying and asinine) ...

1) SS3 Vegetto
2) SS2 Vegetto
3) SS3 Gogeta
4) SS1 Vegetto
5) SS2 Gogeta
6) SS1 Gogeta
7) Gohan-Boo


...I guess it'd be something like that.
Finally someone who agrees with me in regards to where Vegetto and Gogeta potentially stand.
I agree but mine is like this

1. SSJ3 Vegito
2. SSJ3 Gogeta
3. SSJ2 Vegito
4. SSJ2 Gogeta
5. SSJ Vegito
6. Buuhan
7. SSJ Gogeta.

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by Doctor. » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:51 am

Noah wrote:I agree with that but, you think that Gogeta and Gotenks are evenly matched?
Gogeta is superior due to Goku and Vegeta being stronger than Goten and Trunks. They're not miles away from their strength, though, so the two are comparable more or less.

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Re: Vegito Gogeta power comparison

Post by supercat » Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:24 am

miguelnuva1 wrote:I agree but mine is like this

1. SSJ3 Vegito
2. SSJ3 Gogeta
3. SSJ2 Vegito
4. SSJ2 Gogeta
5. SSJ Vegito
6. Buuhan
7. SSJ Gogeta.
Basically in line with the way I see things, except I have SSJ Gogeta a bit stronger than Buuhan.

Because the gap between Vegetto and Buuhan was quite immense to say the least, I feel there's still plenty of room for SSJ Gogeta to fit somewhere in between his counterpart and the vile menace.

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by Alex9196 » Thu Jul 23, 2015 1:55 pm

Does anyone has a powerlevel list on the movies?

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:36 pm

Alex9196 wrote:Does anyone has a powerlevel list on the movies?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ztA ... _UKXnw/pub

Some of the movies are incorporated into this list.

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by LightBing » Thu Jul 23, 2015 5:27 pm

Tell me what you guys think, this one is kinda rough in comparison to my numbers until the Namek Arc.

Multipliers:
Zarbon’s Monster - x1,30 base
Oozaru - x10 base
SSJ - x40 base + (Mastery)
SSJG2 - x80 base
SSJG3 - x160 base
SSJ2 - x200 base
SSJ3 - X400 base
Absorption - Buu + Absorbed
Dance - Base+base x500
Dance SSJ - x4 + (Mastery)
Dance SSJ3 - x8
Potara - (?) Depends on the individuals

Scale:
100.000.000.000 = 1 G

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by miguelnuva1 » Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:21 pm

LightBing wrote:Tell me what you guys think, this one is kinda rough in comparison to my numbers until the Namek Arc.

Multipliers:
Zarbon’s Monster - x1,30 base
Oozaru - x10 base
SSJ - x40 base + (Mastery)
SSJG2 - x80 base
SSJG3 - x160 base
SSJ2 - x200 base
SSJ3 - X400 base
Absorption - Buu + Absorbed
Dance - Base+base x500
Dance SSJ - x4 + (Mastery)
Dance SSJ3 - x8
Potara - (?) Depends on the individuals

Scale:
100.000.000.000 = 1 G
Didn't finish the list but Trunks said Goku was stronger than what he expected.

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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by Kaboom » Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:32 pm

Alex9196 wrote:Does anyone has a powerlevel list on the movies?
I do have one; I keep a link for it in my signature. I try to make it fun to read.
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