New "Remastered Box Set" Information

ect5150 · Post by **ect5150** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:29 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:Remaster the show

I know you don't need convincing, but after getting a Dragon Box set, and comparing some image quality, there is no comparing. So, to convince some other... in terms of re-mastering the series, I'm just convinced we should all buy the stuff from Japan.

Funi's image

A size-comparable image from DragonBox movies

The resolution it is actually displayed in (although, this only works for the movies, not for the episodes, but its only here to prove the point.

For the people planning on getting the new releases, if FUNI doesn't provide you with that kind of quality improvement, I doubt it'll be worth the money.

DaemonCorps · Post by **DaemonCorps** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:03 pm

I think the major thing FUNi doesn't want to do is have to go and re-clean up the footage in full screen. Though remastering the footage in widescreen was a bad move to begin with

. Another thing would be that re-doing future releases to be in fullscreen would end up defeating FUNi's purpose of being consistent with their releases.

As for how much of the picture we're losing, I think we should also keep in mind that the additional footage on the sides will decrease how much more of the footage will be lost on the top and bottom. Let's also hope that FUNi moves the 'camera' in accordance with what's going on, so we won't have to end up with entire scenes messed up because the speaker's face is close up-ed.

Regardless, yeah, it still sucks that it'll be widescreen (<EDITED: yeah, this whole full/widescreen crap is completely messing with my head)

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Conan the SSJ · Post by **Conan the SSJ** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:14 pm

DaemonCorps wrote:Regardless, yeah, it still sucks that it'll be fullscreen ...

I'm just guessing you worded that wrong. >_>;;

But anywho, I'm definitely with ya' in hoping FUNi can pan the camera angles properly for certain shots (Vegeta's Spirit Bomb impact among others) in the same style that a "full-screen" pan-and-scan movie does. If they do, that'll certainly help IMO. What we all gotta keep in mind is FUNi's "wide-screen" is covering the original film prints, not the noticeably zoomed-in digi-beta masters they used for the previous single releases. So the crop may not be as nearly bad as most think.

Soluzar · Post by **Soluzar** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:18 pm

FUNiRepBlue wrote:As promised as we receive new information about the DBZ release that we'll post it.
Here is a direct quote:

"Our announcement about the digital remastered and restored Dragon Ball Z series, and the release of Dragon Ball Z Season One in February, definitely rejuvenated discussions on Dragon Ball Z. There are a lot of questions and misconceptions that have been floating around, so FUNimation has developed an FAQ that will be posted at the beginning of next week. We had the team of experts who developed the digitally remastered series and controlled all aspects of the process (digital remastering, restoration, compression, etc.) address the inquiries into the technical aspects of the upcoming release. This team will also provide some visual examples of what the fans can expect."

So there you have it! We're doing our best to get you as much information as possible. I'll give the details when we get the FAQ up. In the meantime have a great weekend!

~FUNiRepBlue~

http://animenation.net/forums/showthrea ... ost5989342

This message was posted today. I take offense to their use of the word "misconception". They're trying to imply we're wrong about the pseudo-widescreen, and that makes me angry. I'm not stupid, or ignorant. Nor am I labouring under any misconceptions. Their own staff provided the comparison images, so I know what I see.

Feh.

fps_anth · Post by **fps_anth** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:22 pm

Sounds like a fun read.

"Are you really going to crop footage at the top and bottom of the picture?"

"Barely. But there will be MORE, NEVER BEFORE SEEN footage on the sides of each frame! How can you turn this down? This is the way Dragon Ball was meant to be seen. Blah. Chris Sabat."

Probably gonna look something like that.

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:24 pm

Soluzar wrote:This message was posted today. I take offense to their use of the word "misconception". They're trying to imply we're wrong about the pseudo-widescreen, and that makes me angry. I'm not stupid, or ignorant. Nor am I labouring under any misconceptions. Their own staff provided the comparison images, so I know what I see.

Feh.

Eh, don't shoot the messenger. FUNiRepBlue told me they'd be doing this, and at any rate she's in marketing and I don't think she had anything to do with any of the decisions here (aside from how to relay information to the public and advertise the product).

Oh well, we'll see what these 'FAQ's' are, I actually gave her some questions too that she said they might use.

-Corey

Soluzar · Post by **Soluzar** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:30 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:Eh, don't shoot the messenger. FUNiRepBlue told me they'd be doing this, and at any rate she's in marketing and I don't think she had anything to do with any of the decisions here (aside from how to relay information to the public and advertise the product).

I clearly stated in my post on AnimeNation that I was addressing my comments to FUNimation as a whole, and not to her. Blue isn't the problem at all, and she's not the one who has made me feel so patronised.

Oh well, we'll see what these 'FAQ's' are, I actually gave her some questions too that she said they might use.

The odds seem good that what they are is nothing but spin control. Unless they can tell us that the footage isn't really cropped, they aren't getting my money.

Eclipse · Post by **Eclipse** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:36 pm

Hmm...this might clear things up for the whole. But honestly, I'm only in it for the comparison pics. =P

"Are you really going to crop footage at the top and bottom of the picture?"

"Barely. But there will be MORE, NEVER BEFORE SEEN footage on the sides of each frame! How can you turn this down? This is the way Dragon Ball was meant to be seen. Blah. Chris Sabat."

Don't forget Reverse Widescreen! (ends shameless reference to fake product for the last time)

TheMajinRedComet · Post by **TheMajinRedComet** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 6:23 pm

Nothing will make you happy will it! if you dont like Funi, move to the UK and deal with the big green or move to Japan and spend 800$ for the full screen dragonbox. You kids are acting like it is 1997 and you have something to complain about. Back then the 1st season edited box set cost more then this. I think we should all just calm down and enjoy Christmas and wait this thing out and judge on Feb. 7 or when EX puts up some comparisions.

Sorry to sound angry, but we should looking at the fact the the pros out wiegh the cons.

Brad Redfield · Post by **Brad Redfield** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 6:50 pm

TheMajinRedComet wrote:Nothing will make you happy will it!

Sure there is! Just release the series in it's OAR and I'm happy.

if you dont like Funi

Never said I hated FUNimation. Just how they're handling the series.

You kids are acting like it is 1997 and you have something to complain about.

That's becasue there is something to complain about, silly.

Back then the 1st season edited box set cost more then this.

Anime and manga in general was expensive back then. *Remembers the Ranma manga costing $17 a volume*

I think we should all just calm down and enjoy Christmas

Good idea.

and wait this thing out and judge on Feb. 7 or when EX puts up some comparisions.

Will he even be purchasing this set?

Sorry to sound angry, but we should looking at the fact the the pros out wiegh the cons.

For you maybe but attaining the original aspect ratio of a piece of entertainment is very important to me and other people and sadly, it does outweigh the pros. Sorry.

Sebastian (SB) · Post by **Sebastian (SB)** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 12:35 am

I'll second Brad with this. I've been diligently waiting for the series to be remastered &/or have Dragon Box footage so I can get the full experience & have the satisfication of watching the whole series in its original Japanese language w/ excellent english subtitles & economic boxes for about......5 years? Being the big Dragon Ball fan that I am, FUNi is fucking up. I guess I'll just have to stick to purchasing the feature films & TV specials

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Tanooki Kuribo · Post by **Tanooki Kuribo** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 1:23 am

and wait this thing out and judge on Feb. 7 or when EX puts up some comparisions

OR when I post images of the box art and menu screen shots on or about the last week of January. ::Lightning crash:: BWA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

Sorry, you know the drill. I put up some crappy review, people request some videos, we have some coffie and cake...

fps_anth · Post by **fps_anth** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 2:25 am

Wow, it's 19 bucks at CD Universe right now. I highly suggest that you forget about the Widescreen problem and just purchase this. The price is amazing for 39 episodes.

http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.a ... ovie&BAB=M

Brad Redfield · Post by **Brad Redfield** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 2:37 am

fps_anth wrote:I highly suggest that you forget about the Widescreen problem and just purchase this.

No I will not, Sam I Am! I will not in a box and with a fox--

I mean, even at that price I wouldn't touch the set. Funimation isn't getting my money on this release until they fix the problem.

Alucard · Post by **Alucard** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:28 am

Why did CD Universe wrote in the DVD features:

CD Universe wrote:Box Set
Full Screen -
1.33
Audio:
(unspecified) - English, Japanese

Now they're just messing with our heads

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BrollysKin · Post by **BrollysKin** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:39 am

Well I bought it anyway. We are more than likely not going to get these in full-screen, and even if we do I only paid 22 dollars. So I can just buy a new copy. There is no way I am going to buy the Japanese individual releases. Too much money.

Snail · Post by **Snail** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 6:13 am

They seriously need to atleast give us an answer to the godamn question that's bugging us. What the freak is driving them to release the series in widescreen? *shakes head.

Like before, I'll stick to my guess: They're doing this so they can release something like... "The Ultimate Full Screen Remastered Editions". Whee smell that cash flow?*rolls eyes.

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:21 pm

http://community.funimation.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=15411

Hm, per FUNi's new FAQ (not the DVD FAQ that we've been told is coming), the reaction to the widescreen announcement has been "anything but positive."

Will the set get pushed back again? We'll see...

-Corey

Vegetasan · Post by **Vegetasan** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:30 pm

MajinVejitaXV wrote:http://community.funimation.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=15411

Hm, per FUNi's new FAQ (not the DVD FAQ that we've been told is coming), the reaction to the widescreen announcement has been "anything but positive."

Will the set get pushed back again? We'll see...

-Corey

Quote: "Apparently Faulconer hasn't heard anything about his music being replaced..."

Did this guy get his info from my post?? Because that's almost word for word what I said here, about Faulconer's response to my e-mail.. Plagiarism!!

I guess that's a good sign though.. Means FUNi reps do indeed browse fan boards in order to get a feel for our reactions and what we want.

Tanooki Kuribo · Post by **Tanooki Kuribo** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:12 pm

Hm, per FUNi's new FAQ (not the DVD FAQ that we've been told is coming), the reaction to the widescreen announcement has been "anything but positive."

Thats really interesting to know that FUNimation knows the fans are against this. Would they still release this product knowing its going against what fans want? The (Dragon) balls in your cort now FUNi, what do you do, what DO you do?

Edit:

I just finished reading that FAQ in full and I wanted to bring somthing to your attention...

.... we come to another feature that has been given a lot of attention: the revised English audio track. Apparently, FUNimation has taken the time to go back and fix the audio of the dub to provide a sense of consistancy throughout the series. For example, Kyle Hebert, widely known as the voice of Teenage Gohan and the Narrator of DBZ, has recently reported that he has gone back and recorded over the lines of the former narrator, Dale Kelly, so that he will be the only narrator throughout the entire 291 episode series.

Thats pretty awesome on FUNimations part. Do you think they will go back and un-darn the script?