"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Helios518 » Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:45 pm

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Chuquita wrote:Maybe Universe 6 has a Vegetto who never unfused? >_>

Could be fun, but I want an alt Gokû and Vegeta more.
Doubtful. That would mean Vegito never saved Gohan, Goten and Trunks and just outright murdered Buu with them still inside, which is something I couldn't really see Goku and Vegeta doing.
Unless they go the Multiverse Route but I really don't want Vegetto to come back.If he does I hope his strongest transformation is SSJ3.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Noah » Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:48 pm

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LightBing wrote:I think BoG arc will be extended with Champa insertion, maybe to display Vegeta turning SSG and set the ground for the Universe 6 plot. FnF can be placed far into the future.
Not possible, Toriyama specifically stated "F" arc follows BoG arc.
I think that would be interesting if U6 Arc would place before RoF Arc... Don't remember who said before that Goku and Vegeta go on a trip in U6 after absorb SSJG powers but they lose to U6 Hakaishin, so they come back to train with Whis to master SSJG powers to turn into SSJGSSJs, it would be cool...
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I reckon it could be used when Goku says that fusion won't work against Beerus, him thinking about it.
But was he meant that a SSJ3 Gogeta or a SSJ3 Vegetto wouldn't work against Beerus? (I know that Gogeta isn't canon, but I don't know... Goku might have though in Metamoru Fusion)
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:51 pm

Helios518 wrote:
FutureGohanSSJ2 wrote:
Chuquita wrote:Maybe Universe 6 has a Vegetto who never unfused? >_>

Could be fun, but I want an alt Gokû and Vegeta more.
Doubtful. That would mean Vegito never saved Gohan, Goten and Trunks and just outright murdered Buu with them still inside, which is something I couldn't really see Goku and Vegeta doing.
Unless they go the Multiverse Route but I really don't want Vegetto to come back.If he does I hope his strongest transformation is SSJ3.
I don't think you have anything to worry about. The other 11 universe, since the moment of their introduction, have never been implied to simply be things like Trunks' timeline, where it's just alternate version of the characters we know. So the people hoping to see GT!Goku, Fem!Goku, Fat!Goku, Evil!Goku or any other alterations as such are most likely going to end up disappointed.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:53 pm

I would love the Uni 6 arc to be Gokû and Vegeta's "Class Field Trip" under Professor Whis in which during their adventure they learn how to bluper; but the way Super was vaguely outlined makes me think we're definitely gonna reF first, and then do Uni 6 after.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:43 pm

FutureGohanSSJ2 wrote:
Chuquita wrote:Maybe Universe 6 has a Vegetto who never unfused? >_>

Could be fun, but I want an alt Gokû and Vegeta more.
Doubtful. That would mean Vegito never saved Gohan, Goten and Trunks and just outright murdered Buu with them still inside, which is something I couldn't really see Goku and Vegeta doing.
I'm pretty sure Piccolo's, Gohan's, Goten's and Trunks souls where separated after Buu died similar what happen #17 after Cell died if Vegito killed Buu.
TheDevilsCorpse wrote: I don't think you have anything to worry about. The other 11 universe, since the moment of their introduction, have never been implied to simply be things like Trunks' timeline, where it's just alternate version of the characters we know. So the people hoping to see GT!Goku, Fem!Goku, Fat!Goku, Evil!Goku or any other alterations as such are most likely going to end up disappointed.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Jul 21, 2015 11:23 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:I don't think you have anything to worry about. The other 11 universe, since the moment of their introduction, have never been implied to simply be things like Trunks' timeline, where it's just alternate version of the characters we know. So the people hoping to see GT!Goku, Fem!Goku, Fat!Goku, Evil!Goku or any other alterations as such are most likely going to end up disappointed.
Thank KamiGodKingKaio(shin). We have enough of one Goku and one Vegeta. Toriyama mentioned a whole bunch of new characters when talking about Super, and that's what I want to see. Not some stupid shit alternate Goku Vegeta garbage. Hell the only time I'd ever actually be inclined to like alternate versions of said characters, is if it's actually a drastic beneficial change. Like if an alternate Goku was a total coward. Or if an alternate Beerus was a complete pacifist. Though please no Evil Goku stuff...I've had enough fanfic delving with "Original the super saiyan forms, do not steal."
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Ushabtis » Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:01 am

Only alternate goku I want to see is GT versions....but I'd much rather have Toriyama have fun with Super and introduce a bunch of new interesting characters instead of copy and pasting ideas we've seen since forever.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:48 am

I just want a universe full of fat versions of the Saiyans, who, instead of having crazy eating habits and staying fit, are all on super hardcore diets, but can't lose weight.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Faustus » Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:52 am

Have it so the universes share a metaphysical link too, so it turns out that all the extra calories U7 Goku's been shoving down his throat have really been going to his AU counterpart all along. When the AU versions find this out, they have the U7 cast go on rigorous diets while they enjoy the pleasures of food.

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Post by dbgtFO » Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:36 am

Faustus wrote:Have it so the universes share a metaphysical link too, so it turns out that all the extra calories U7 Goku's been shoving down his throat have really been going to his AU counterpart all along. When the AU versions find this out, they have the U7 cast go on rigorous diets while they enjoy the pleasures of food.
About that metaphysical link, in the podcast episode from a week back, Herms mentioned some tidbit about how in other some other universe planets were mysteriously disappearing..
What if the continued use of the Dragon Balls in Universe 7 has an effect on other universes too? As in bringing back life in one universe somehow destroys life in another to balance things out. That could be Toriyama's take on Elder Kaioshin's warning on not using the Dragon Balls(not to say that the Elder Kaioshin would know exactly what would happen with contined use of the DBs, just that he would know something bad would happen).

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:48 am

That's not exactly what the what the tidbit was. As per Herm's twitter:
Super Start Guide's DBS intro says "in addition" to threats like Beerus or the revived Freeza, planets near Earth are mysteriously vanishing. "What's happening on Earth, and what are the 'Super Dragon Balls'?" So vanishing planets could be related to Universe 6 rather than Beerus.

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So the planets disappearing could be related to Universe 6, but there is certainly nothing saying they are disappearing from said universe...
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Post by Cetra » Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:50 am

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Post by dbgtFO » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:17 am

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:That's not exactly what the what the tidbit was. As per Herm's twitter:
Super Start Guide's DBS intro says "in addition" to threats like Beerus or the revived Freeza, planets near Earth are mysteriously vanishing. "What's happening on Earth, and what are the 'Super Dragon Balls'?" So vanishing planets could be related to Universe 6 rather than Beerus.
Oh, I see. Well if the disappearing of planets is going to be brought up during the Universe 6 arc, I guess Gohan and co. could fight the villains in their universe, while Goku and Vegeta are in Universe 6.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sangofe » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:10 am

Ushabtis wrote:but I'd much rather have Toriyama have fun with Super and introduce a bunch of new interesting characters instead of copy and pasting ideas we've seen since forever.
Yeah, good start with the BoG and F rehashes >_> Let's hope...

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by LightBing » Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:12 am

VegettoEX wrote:
LightBing wrote:Could you please post what he said, I was looking for it and couldn't find it.
It was a comment from Toriyama displayed during the "Complete Showcase Event"-
Akira Toriyama wrote:“Dragon Ball Super” is a complete continuation of the Majin Buu story arc. It’s got a bit of post-battle aftermath, continues with the “Battle of Gods” arc where the God of Destruction Beerus appears and the “Revival of ‘F'” arc where Freeza comes back to life, and then, I’ve written a strange new story where they finally depart from this universe. They’re fighting against their neighbors, Universe 6! They’ll yell at me if I give away too many spoilers, so I’ll keep the rest a secret, but they’re chasing after giant Super Dragon Balls; I think things will unfold in a bright and simple way, that will be really fun and exciting!
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I guess it is almost certain that BoG arc will be followed by the FnF arc, still there could be something in between or the FnF arc could be greatly expanded, and what Mr Toriyama referred to as the Universe 6 arc is like the Android Arc with the Trunks warning done prior; to make a parallel. The manga points to the early appearance of Champa so a set up is going to be done.

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Post by soulnova » Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:18 pm

dbgtFO wrote:About that metaphysical link, in the podcast episode from a week back, Herms mentioned some tidbit about how in other some other universe planets were mysteriously disappearing..
What if the continued use of the Dragon Balls in Universe 7 has an effect on other universes too? As in bringing back life in one universe somehow destroys life in another to balance things out. That could be Toriyama's take on Elder Kaioshin's warning on not using the Dragon Balls(not to say that the Elder Kaioshin would know exactly what would happen with contined use of the DBs, just that he would know something bad would happen).

Yeah, I mentioned the same before. It could be very interesting if something like that happens. I still don't know how the Super Dragon Balls would come into play though. Why would they need to find them instead of using U7's set? Would they be more powerful? What could they want that requires more power than the Earth and Namekian Dragon Balls?
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Post by White Oni » Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:46 pm

Has anyone seen these villians before? I found this post on tumblr and I'm clueless as to where the image is from... Praying to all goodness this isn't real...

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White Oni wrote:Has anyone seen these villians before? I found this post on tumblr and I'm clueless as to where the image is from... Praying to all goodness this isn't real...

http://whiteoni.tumblr.com/post/1247575 ... ng-serious
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Ajay wrote:
White Oni wrote:Has anyone seen these villians before? I found this post on tumblr and I'm clueless as to where the image is from... Praying to all goodness this isn't real...

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Captain Space » Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:00 pm

Yeah, saw this being shared around Facebook, did my best to tell people it ain't real, but you'll still get plenty of people who believe it is. Hopefully this won't be as persistent a rumour as AF or Hoshi or whatever.
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