Quarter Finals - 1st KSSTK

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Quarter Finals - 1st KSSTK

Post by LightBing » Wed Jul 22, 2015 11:54 am

This thread is to read and vote for the story's of the 1st Kazenshuu Short Story Tenkaichi Budokai. Check the main thread for more info, here.

Only one vote for match!

This round had as a theme Artifacts.

Please vote in the following manner:
Match (nº of the match)
I vote for (name of the user)
Input:(Observations, criticism, what have you...)

Deadline 27/07/2015 17:00 UTC
Thank you for voting!
You can check the results in the main thread.
Match 1
SSJ God Gogeta vs LightBing
Written by SSJ God Gogeta
Written by LightBing
Match 2
Sun-Wukong vs Kamiccolo9
Written by Sun-Wukong
Written by Kamiccolo9
Match 3
jcogginsa vs dae428
Written by jcogginsa
Written by dae428
Match 4
Gyt Kaliba vs Rocketman vs supercat
Gyt Kaliba and Rocketman didn't deliver their story's.

Written by supercat

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Re: Quarter Finals - 1st KSSTK

Post by fadeddreams5 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:07 pm

Match 4: I vote for supercat. n_n


Gotta read the rest.
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Re: Quarter Finals - 1st KSSTK

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:13 pm

Question, for the votes, do you want us to justify our votes, and, if so, how critical do we need to be? I'm assuming that since one of the stated goals of this "tournament" was to "improve our writing skills," you want more than just "I vote for X."
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Re: Quarter Finals - 1st KSSTK

Post by LightBing » Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:35 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:Question, for the votes, do you want us to justify our votes, and, if so, how critical do we need to be? I'm assuming that since one of the stated goals of this "tournament" was to "improve our writing skills," you want more than just "I vote for X."
There's no need for a justification in the sense of A is better than B, because. If in a story you see something that could be improved, say it. If you see something interesting and want to reinforce the writer to explore that aspect, say it. Even if it's negative criticism, I believe it promotes growth and improvement. Of course just saying is bad, or that's stupid, isn't appreciated and helps nobody.

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Re: Quarter Finals - 1st KSSTK

Post by jcogginsa » Wed Jul 22, 2015 2:06 pm

Match 1
I vote for LightBing
Input: Both lack proper grammar. Use "" to denote dialogue

Match 2
I vote for Sun-Wukong


I presume i don't vote for the match i'm in?

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Re: Quarter Finals - 1st KSSTK

Post by LightBing » Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:03 pm

jcogginsa wrote:Match 1
I vote for LightBing
Input: Both lack proper grammar. Use "" to denote dialogue

Match 2
I vote for Sun-Wukong


I presume i don't vote for the match i'm in?
No, contestants don't vote in their matches.
About the "" for dialogue; I did a quick research and it's one of those thing's I never noticed. In my mother tongue it's common to use the - , although "" is also correct. Thanks for that; you live and learn. Gotta educated myself in the grammar department, in most of my English school years I just got by with what I'd learned when I was a kid, watching cartoon network and movies with subtitles.

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Re: Quarter Finals - 1st KSSTK

Post by voltlunok » Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:21 pm

Match 1 I vote SSJ God Gogeta

Match 2 I vote Kamiccolo9

Match 3 I vote jcogginsa

Match 4 I vote Supercat cause he is the only one I can judge.
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Re: Quarter Finals - 1st KSSTK

Post by Zephyr » Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:28 pm

Match 2 voting for Kamiccolo. Haven't read the rest yet.

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Re: Quarter Finals - 1st KSSTK

Post by Doctor. » Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:34 pm

LightBing wrote:
jcogginsa wrote:Match 1
I vote for LightBing
Input: Both lack proper grammar. Use "" to denote dialogue

Match 2
I vote for Sun-Wukong


I presume i don't vote for the match i'm in?
No, contestants don't vote in their matches.
About the "" for dialogue; I did a quick research and it's one of those thing's I never noticed. In my mother tongue it's common to use the - , although "" is also correct. Thanks for that; you live and learn. Gotta educated myself in the grammar department, in most of my English school years I just got by with what I'd learned when I was a kid, watching cartoon network and movies with subtitles.
The dash is used for dialogue in most languages derived from Latin, I guess. I wasn't really aware that English used quotation marks for dialogue before I started reading English books myself and even though I've grown accustomed to it, it's still a habit of mine to use the dash too.

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Re: Quarter Finals - 1st KSSTK

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:40 pm

Light Bing for the first match, although he needs to stick to a consistent tense (you kept jumping between present and past tense.) Gogeta, I liked your story, but you need to work on making your sentences more concise; it was hard to read at some points, which is a big problem for shorter works such as these.

Got some formatting issues with both in the third match. I like the idea behind Jcogginsa's more, but dae428's is better written, so I'm going with it.
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Re: Quarter Finals - 1st KSSTK

Post by Kid Buu » Thu Jul 23, 2015 1:47 am

Match 1: SSJ God Gogeta

Match 2: Kamiccolo9

Match 3: jcogginsa

Match 4: Supercat (by default).
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Re: Quarter Finals - 1st KSSTK

Post by dae428 » Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:15 am

Match 1: SSJ God Gogeta (By a hair)
Match 2: Kamiccolo9

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Re: Quarter Finals - 1st KSSTK

Post by DoomieDoomie911 » Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:16 pm

Match 1: SSJ God Gogeta

Input: the story just flowed better, in my opinion. Both stories had some grammar issues, though.

Match 2: Kamiccolo9

Input: both stories were pretty good, but "The Emperor's Holiday" took the cake.

Match 3: jcogginsa

Input: I really like both stories, but jcogginsa's was just a bit better. I was disappointed by the ending, though. Why would you end it there? Why not put more? It really seemed like a weird place to end it.

You're story was pretty good, dae428, but I really wish you had wrote something original. It kind of felt like I was reading a written version of the anime. Nothing against you, I just really prefer original stories for things like this.

Match 4: I really, really enjoyed your story, supercat! Great job! :thumbup:

I honestly enjoyed everyone stories, and I look forward to the next round! Good job, everyone! :clap:
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Re: Quarter Finals - 1st KSSTK

Post by dae428 » Sat Jul 25, 2015 2:03 am

DoomieDoomie911 wrote: dae428, but I really wish you had wrote something original. It kind of felt like I was reading a written version of the anime. Nothing against you, I just really prefer original stories for things like this.
Thanks for the review. Yeah, I guess it was a bit unoriginal to just to retell a manga chapter. I was originally going to write a parody creepypasta story about a Red Ribbon Army member who saw Goku as some sort murderous blood thirst killer/spirit thing who was related to the Dragon Balls, but I felt like my writing in it was really lackluster and bland so I kind of held off on it. Eventually I kind of forgot about the story thing until I realized it was due tomorrow. The parody wasn't going anywhere so I just figured it would be fun to go more in depth with the manga and go further into the state of minds of the characters. However, I started the story off way earlier than I should have and I ended up with way too many words. With little time left, I had to take out whole chunks of the story which led to really messy consequences that I didn't really have time to correct properly.

In short, not my best work, but hey it was fun and I'm really looking forward to another tournament like this in the future! I really hope this tournament thing grows. :D

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Re: Quarter Finals - 1st KSSTK

Post by DoomieDoomie911 » Sat Jul 25, 2015 10:49 am

dae428 wrote:In short, not my best work, but hey it was fun and I'm really looking forward to another tournament like this in the future! I really hope this tournament thing grows. :D
I certainly do too! I think this was a fantastic idea!

Also, that Red Ribbon Army idea sounded really good! If we have another tournament like this (or if you advance to the next round), you should really do something like that.
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Re: Quarter Finals - 1st KSSTK

Post by LightBing » Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:28 pm

Match 2
I vote for Kamiccolo9
Input:It was A really fun and graphic story by Kamiccolo9, good entertainment. Sun-Wukong story didn't click with me, the first part felt a little forced to reach the second part. If you had left out a reason to stumble upon the sword and just started from there, it would leave you with more room to develop it.

Match 3
I vote for dae428
Input: I like the different perspective of the already told story; but it was a little too close to the original. Sure, it was greatly described but it felt like the manga with some side notes/commentary's.
jcogginsa enticing writing but you didn't deliver, it felt redundant by the end.

Voting time is ending. Hurry people!

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Re: Quarter Finals - 1st KSSTK

Post by fadeddreams5 » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:54 pm

I'm going to edit this post as I read the stories.

Match 1:
Match 2:
Match 3:
Match 4:
Last edited by fadeddreams5 on Sun Jul 26, 2015 8:11 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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Re: Quarter Finals - 1st KSSTK

Post by LightBing » Sun Jul 26, 2015 2:08 pm

Thanks for taking the time to give these detailed reviews, fadeddreams5!

You hit the nail(pun intended) on the head regarding my story. I had to cut down a lot, while I was writing, new ideas just kept coming. I'm very tempted in continuing the story in a longer format, without cutting whole pieces. You did get one thing wrong, Cargo reason for more power isn't to protect others but himself. He doesn't want to be oppressed by anything or anyone. He admires Goku because he's an example of resistance and victory over overwhelming power. I address this in the story.

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Re: Quarter Finals - 1st KSSTK

Post by fadeddreams5 » Sun Jul 26, 2015 2:26 pm

LightBing wrote:You did get one thing wrong, Cargo reason for more power isn't to protect others but himself. He doesn't want to be oppressed by anything or anyone. He admires Goku because he's an example of resistance and victory over overwhelming power. I address this in the story.
Ah. I missed that. That's what he meant by new horizons, and why he was called selfish.
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Re: Quarter Finals - 1st KSSTK

Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Mon Jul 27, 2015 4:59 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:I'm going to edit this post as I read the stories.

Match 1:
Thanks, fadeddreams5! :D

Yeah, I didn't have a lot of time on my hands to write it; I blame myself for not doing a quick spell-check before handing it in.. :oops:
Anyway, as I said above I didn't have a lot of time to write it and by the end I wasn't satisfied with it. I wanted to keep going and improve it but lack of time got in the way of that... You made some very good points and I hope when I get some more free time I can go back and redo it and use the points above to make it better.
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