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Re: Do you think the weaker z warriors will travel to Univer

Post by Doctor. » Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:05 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:How will they go? They are gods, they are supposed to be neutral.
Yea, they do a pretty terrible job at being neutral.

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Re: Do you think the weaker z warriors will travel to Univer

Post by dbzfan7 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:10 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:How will they go? They are gods, they are supposed to be neutral.
Just wait and see. They're new beloved characters, and they're sure to have some reason to come along. I can't see them being thrown into the background and ignored for an arc. For sure a written reason will exist that will have them go. Could be something stupid like someone in universe 6 owes Beerus something. The only way they wouldn't show up is if something else grabs their attention and donates screen time to them in universe 7, or the new characters are gonna get a lot of screen time which they'll take from Beerus and Whis.
Doctor. wrote:Yea, they do a pretty terrible job at being neutral.
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Re: Do you think the weaker z warriors will travel to Univer

Post by Chuquita » Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:31 pm

I've got two ways I can think of it going:

-the reF arc really does end with Freeza blowing the planet up and Whis can't/won't turn back time, but somehow they rescued Vegeta before Earth gets blown up because he's shown walking into the portal with Gokû in the opening so...the entire group that survives Freeza's final attack + a rescued Vegeta.

Other theory:

-reF ends like regular F does, and the opening really is showing what's going to happen; that it'll be just Gokû and Vegeta heading to Uni 6 while a second storyline (because Super seems to, at least 3 episodes in, enjoy having multiple storylines running at the same time--and I like multiple storylines at the same time too so I'm good with that) has the weaker fighters headlining a story that takes place on regular ol' Uni 7 Earth while Gokû and Vegeta are gone (like how the Garlic Jr arc did, only it won't be like the Garlic Jr arc).
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Re: Do you think the weaker z warriors will travel to Univer

Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:48 pm

I see Piccolo and Tien tagging along. But guys like Krillin, #18, Yamcha and Roshi are gonna get left behind because they are fodder at this stage. As for Gohan, they'll probably leave him behind because he has a family to support and all that jazz.

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Re: Do you think the weaker z warriors will travel to Univer

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Lord Beerus wrote:I see Piccolo and Tenshinhan tagging along. But guys like Krillin, #18, Yamcha and Roshi are gonna get left behind because they are fodder at this stage. As for Gohan, they'll probably leave him behind because he has a family to support and all that jazz.
Wait, #18 and Kuririn are fodder but Tenshinhan is not?

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Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:26 pm

Doctor. wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:I see Piccolo and Tenshinhan tagging along. But guys like Krillin, #18, Yamcha and Roshi are gonna get left behind because they are fodder at this stage. As for Gohan, they'll probably leave him behind because he has a family to support and all that jazz.
Wait, #18 and Kuririn are fodder but Tenshinhan is not?
Tien's a lone wolf with no real responsibility such as a family or job, apart from farming as a hobby, and focuses solely on training which mean there is nothing holding him back from joining in the universe adventures.

In this day and age of Dragon Ball, if you have a responsibility that doesn't concern training or fighting, you're pretty much fodder.
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Re: Do you think the weaker z warriors will travel to Univer

Post by Doctor. » Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:27 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
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Lord Beerus wrote:I see Piccolo and Tenshinhan tagging along. But guys like Krillin, #18, Yamcha and Roshi are gonna get left behind because they are fodder at this stage. As for Gohan, they'll probably leave him behind because he has a family to support and all that jazz.
Wait, #18 and Kuririn are fodder but Tenshinhan is not?
He's a lone wolf with no real responsibility such as family or job, and focuses solely on training which mean there is nothing holding him back from joining in the universe adventures.

In this day and age of Dragon Ball, if you have a responsibility that doesn't concern training or fighting, you're pretty fodder.
He's not a lone wolf, he's not going to leave Chaozu unprotected, he practically died for him back in the Saiyan arc.

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Re: Do you think the weaker z warriors will travel to Univer

Post by dbzfan7 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:30 pm

Lord Beerus wrote: In this day and age of Dragon Ball, if you have a responsibility that doesn't concern training or fighting, you're pretty fodder.
Well don't forget food. If you like anything beyond fighting, training, and food, you're useless. Hopefully the new characters of universe 6 change this as I'm tired of that having to be the prerequisite for all the top tiers. Piccolo doesn't like food, and he seems to be getting more engrossed in Gohan's family, so that means he's screwed XD. Tenshinhan isn't a big food guy, so he's also screwed.

Boo nearly fit the requirements, but he suddenly stopped liking to fight. All he needed was training and he would fit along with the others. Oob was dropped cause they realized he wasn't a food guy.
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Re: Do you think the weaker z warriors will travel to Univer

Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:37 pm

Doctor. wrote:He's not a lone wolf, he's not going to leave Chaozu unprotected, he practically died for him back in the Saiyan arc.
He'll ditch Chaozu with Yamcha just like he did in Resurrection F. Hell, he'll do it again in Super. Problem solved.

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Re: Do you think the weaker z warriors will travel to Univer

Post by Akyon » Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:28 am

Personally I think Piccolo, Gohan, Krillin and the kids will at bare minimum be the ones following Goku and Vegeta just going off the splashpage promotional art. I'm still betting Krillin's cop job will be rewritten so he ends up joining the Galactic Police alongside Jaco.

Tenshinhan and 18 may come too. Maaaaybe Roshi, but I won't hold my breath for him, Yamcha or Chiaoutzu, more's the pity.
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Re: Do you think the weaker z warriors will travel to Univer

Post by Basaku » Thu Jul 23, 2015 11:43 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote: You mean play their roles & have cool fights until the main villain comes & kicks their asses, which is when Goku suddenly appears and saves the day? Because that's so different from what we saw in BoG & FnF.
It's not like anyone looks at BOG/ROF as a good/decent/average standard how to handle characters not named Goku or Vegeta

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Re: Do you think the weaker z warriors will travel to Univer

Post by ShadowBardock89 » Fri Jul 24, 2015 1:22 am

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Re: Do you think the weaker z warriors will travel to Univer

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Jul 24, 2015 4:58 am

Basaku wrote:It's not like anyone looks at BOG/ROF as a good/decent/average standard how to handle characters not named Goku or Vegeta
Gohan, Piccolo, Kuririn, Tenshinhan, Kame-sennin, and Jaco had awesome fight scenes, better than Vegeta. You don't need a high battle power & blue hair to look cool.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Do you think the weaker z warriors will travel to Univer

Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Jul 24, 2015 7:12 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Basaku wrote:It's not like anyone looks at BOG/ROF as a good/decent/average standard how to handle characters not named Goku or Vegeta
Gohan, Piccolo, Kuririn, Tenshinhan, Kame-sennin, and Jaco had awesome fight scenes, better than Vegeta. You don't need a high battle power & blue hair to look cool.
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Re: Do you think the weaker z warriors will travel to Univer

Post by bubibartra » Fri Jul 24, 2015 8:26 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:How will they go? They are gods, they are supposed to be neutral.

in Fnf they were not exactly neutral ....

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Re: Do you think the weaker z warriors will travel to Univer

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Jul 24, 2015 8:41 am

bubibartra wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:How will they go? They are gods, they are supposed to be neutral.

in Fnf they were not exactly neutral ....

ask frezer....
They had the excuse to bring back Earth because of the food, aka for their selfish reasons.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Do you think the weaker z warriors will travel to Univer

Post by Basaku » Fri Jul 24, 2015 8:52 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Basaku wrote:It's not like anyone looks at BOG/ROF as a good/decent/average standard how to handle characters not named Goku or Vegeta
Gohan, Piccolo, Kuririn, Tenshinhan, Kame-sennin, and Jaco had awesome fight scenes, better than Vegeta. You don't need a high battle power & blue hair to look cool.
Fighting fodder enemies and gags is good stuff now? Krillin & Gohan's plot on Namek, or Krillin/18 romance in Cell saga are good example of meaningful, suspensful and surprising involvement of not-top-tier fighters in the series. Freeza's fodder army is nothing but throwing a bone. They shouldn't even bother

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Re: Do you think the weaker z warriors will travel to Univer

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:40 am

Basaku wrote:Fighting fodder enemies and gags is good stuff now? Krillin & Gohan's plot on Namek, or Krillin/18 romance in Cell saga are good example of meaningful, suspensful and surprising involvement of not-top-tier fighters in the series. Freeza's fodder army is nothing but throwing a bone. They shouldn't even bother
You mean that you were expecting to see things that happened in over 50 chapters in 90-minute movies? I'm extremely happy that I saw gag situations in BoG, which we had to see for a long time, and I was even more happy to see the Z-Senshi fighting 1000 soldiers & kicking their asses in cool fighting scenes, something we had never seen before (which also proved to be a challenge for them, even though they could have followed the easy way and kill everyone in a few seconds, they decided to do it the slow way to buy time for Goku).
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Do you think the weaker z warriors will travel to Univer

Post by Basaku » Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:03 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote: You mean that you were expecting to see things that happened in over 50 chapters in 90-minute movies?
You mean like countless other movies can utilize large casts and give multiple characters big arcs and involve them deeply within the plot within 90 minutes? Of course it's less than a TV show, but it's not an excuse to relegate 99% of the cast to gags and fodder fights

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