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Post by TAS » Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:17 pm

I guess you're right.. see you in 24 years then.


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Don't get me wrong, I wanted this so bad.. when I first got into the series. Then, looking at it closer, I saw that it could be the worst thing that happened to the series since superstar.


Yeah I know, I think once you get to the point of over examining it, picking it apart, etc, to the point of what can and can't be done it becomes more obvious it turn out for the worst.
So that doesn't prove anything.
The point I believe Mr.Piccolo is trying to make (and even I've said this a few times) is that bad adaptions are put out so often to the point where it's like 10 bad ones to every good 1, so don't try and be too optamistic about it all just because we have a few good adaptions now, ie we're taught history in school for a reason.

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Post by landoku » Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:27 pm

Well I'm no Newbie to the Dragonball series...maybe to the forum, but not the series. I've wanted this for awhile, and still do. You've got to look at it both ways. Yes, it could be the worst thing ever, ORRRRR It could be one of the best. Look, the guys who are doing it, Its there job they KNOW what there doing! Heres a good way to settle this, If your a Transformer fan you can watch that film when it comes out and decide if making Transformers into a live action film is good enough. Then we can use that, as a meter for if this day-in-time movie makers can handle a DBZ Movie.
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Post by Mr. Announcer » Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:27 pm

landoku wrote: WHY! Why, do you guys always insist on saying "Well if they do make a movie they need to be ASIAN actors."
Nothing in the entire dragonball z series shows that the characters are asian! For all we know Toriyama could have made the entire saiyajin race look exactly like Americans!*lol* We dont know, so the whole "Asian actor" thing is stupid. When they make the movie they'll use well known (most likely) American actors. (I think Tom Welling would be GREAT as a young, strong Goku.)
That's true, nothing in Dragonball would ever suggest that. Except that early Dragonball takes place in what could be considered their version of China, most of the characters have black eyes and black hair, and they all, y'know, dress up in gi and such. But yeah, I totally see where you're coming from.
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Post by landoku » Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:29 pm

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landoku wrote: WHY! Why, do you guys always insist on saying "Well if they do make a movie they need to be ASIAN actors."
Nothing in the entire dragonball z series shows that the characters are asian! For all we know Toriyama could have made the entire saiyajin race look exactly like Americans!*lol* We dont know, so the whole "Asian actor" thing is stupid. When they make the movie they'll use well known (most likely) American actors. (I think Tom Welling would be GREAT as a young, strong Goku.)
That true, nothing in Dragonball would ever suggest that. Except that early Dragonball takes place in what could be considered their version of China, and they all, y'know, dress up in gi and such. But yeah, I totally see where you're coming from.
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Post by future_trunks » Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:35 pm

I would see the movie if it came out becasue it's Dragonball, but I don't think I'll like it.

Look at everything they have to do...flying,Ki, super speed teleporting, super fast moves almost impossible to see... it would be really hard and would probably just look extremely fake.

Final Opinion: They shouldn't, but if they do, I'll probably go to it just because it's Dragonball.
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Post by landoku » Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:38 pm

Look at everything they have to do...flying,Ki, super speed teleporting, super fast moves almost impossible to see... it would be really hard and would probably just look extremely fake.
They could do like the Matrix. Not so fast you can't see them fight, but fast enough to be explosive exciting scenes of choreographed martial arts.

*Yawn* I'll argue some more tomorrow. Later.
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Post by Sebastian (SB) » Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:40 pm

I just don't think American actors will work for some of the roles, specifically being the Son family, Muten-Roshi, Kuririn, Tenshinhan, Yamcha, Chaozu, pretty much a majority of the earlier Dragon Ball characters. I can understand them using American actors for the much latter part of the series, where a lot of western & science fictional elements are incorporated into the series. On the flipside, that what scares me as well, that if they do decide to make a Dragon Ball, they'll completely ignore the earlier part of the series while only making brief references & a short introduction much how like they did when the Dragon Ball Z anime was serialized in the states. Again I'll quote myself from ealier in this topic
I can't imagine a DBZ movie done by Americans. Just thinking about it gives me nightmares...OMFGROTF!!! SUPER SAYIANZ 3ZZZZ BIG EXPLOSIONZZZ33 Coming to the theatherzzz this sunday........Oh dear lord no.

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Post by landoku » Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:46 pm

.......Just for further validation
OMG!!!!!!!! Read the post above before you post the samething someone else already adressed!
I just don't think American actors will work for some of the roles, specifically being the Son family, Muten-Roshi, Kuririn, Tenshinhan, Yamcha, Chaozu, pretty much a majority of the earlier Dragon Ball characters. I can understand them using American actors for the much latter part of the series, where a lot of western & science fictional elements are incorporated into the series. On the flipside, that what scares me as well, that if they do decide to make a Dragon Ball, they'll completely ignore the earlier part of the series while only making brief references & a short introduction much how like they did when the Dragon Ball Z anime was serialized in the states. Again I'll quote myself from ealier in this topic
They make a lot of changes to make it more...Realistic like...like take out Choatzu and Puar, Oolong stupid crap like that.

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Post by Sebastian (SB) » Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:51 pm

Dude, I did read your post & quite frankly I don't care. Tom Welling as Son Goku scares the shit out of me by the way. They'll probably end calling the movie "Dragon Spheres" or something, completely alter it, & then say it was inspired by "Dragon Ball Z".
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Post by Mr.Piccolo » Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:52 pm

:arrow: Everybody read this post three times over! Seriously. The "DUDE IT SHOULD HAPPEN LOL THANKZ TOM WELLING" posts and responces have been stabbed and gagged and pushed down a hill. ;P

I guess its all based on one's opinion. If you think its a good idea, that's you. I don't. I also think the Matrix (sequels) were the shittest movies known to man. You obviously don't. Again, its based on your opinion. However, the points made about having the means to make that movie now aren't seen so clearly. I have the supplies take a picture of a toilet. Will I? Hell no. Reason being that no matter what angle its in, its still gonna be a goddamn toilet. Okay, maybe that was the worst example of all time.
I'm just at a loss of words how the Street Fighter example didn't click with you people.

Keep in mind with that Spiderman example, the original didn't make that money but it was very close to its roots, the comics (yes, I know this because I've seen it). The newer line of comic book movies are made to please the general public, not staying genuine to the story it comes from. The cost? Their paycheck courtesy of whoever feels like watching it at the price of the opinion of loyal fans. Do you know where I'm getting at here?

As said many times, it sounds like a good idea, but there is a big difference between an idea and an action (actions speak louder than words, blah). In short, all this movie would do is milk the series even more and in the end, true fans won't enjoy it as much as they think they would/could. My two cents.
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Post by future_trunks » Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:53 pm

Sebastian(SB) wrote: "Dragon Spheres" or something, completely alter it, & then say it was inspired by "Dragon Ball Z".
MY EYES. What would be so great about a live action movie, serioulsy.
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Post by Sebastian (SB) » Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:57 pm

Well, generally, I wouldn't mind if they made a movie inspired by the series, rather than put the name on it.
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Post by TAS » Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:58 pm

They could do like the Matrix. Not so fast you can't see them fight, but fast enough to be explosive exciting scenes of choreographed martial arts.
^Look at it like this.

In the Matrix sequels and the Star War prequels, what was the point of doing them in live action when 90% of everything you saw was CGI?

If they have to rely that much on CGI, then it might as well be entirely CGI.

Note there was a reason why Advent Children was CGI and not live action, and it ended up turning out a lot better then it EVER would have with live actors.
You've got to look at it both ways. Yes, it could be the worst thing ever, ORRRRR It could be one of the best.
No, at best it be decent.

See like what's "the best" out there nowdays in terms of adaptions? Most people probaly say Spider-Man, X-Men, LOTR, and Harry Potter. Like I really doubt they could do it better then how the Spider-Man movies were handled or anywhere near as good for that matter, which is why I say "decent at best"
Look, the guys who are doing it, Its there job they KNOW what there doing!
You can't say that because you/we have no clue as to who is actually going to handle it, and/or in what exact way.

Note what directors out there do more adaptions then any other directors? Uwe Boll and Paul Anderson. Now look at the actual movies they did, and ask yourself how many of them were good or done well or whatever?

You should be taking every possible thing into consideration here, like the fact that someone like Uwe Boll or Paul Anderson will get to direct it.
Heres a good way to settle this, If your a Transformer fan you can watch that film when it comes out and decide if making Transformers into a live action film is good enough. Then we can use that, as a meter for if this day-in-time movie makers can handle a DBZ Movie.
No because Transformers isn't anything like DBZ, nor is it even an anime, not to mention it's a lot easier to pull off the DBZ would be. For starters 90% of Transformers is going to be live action, rather then the other way around. It's a very easy concept to adapt in comparision to DBZ.

I mean if any of the other animes that were going to be adapted actually ended up getting made then that be something to compare it to, but there isn't even anything close to DBZ that's been adapted into live action, thus it's kinda hard to give an example of anything by comparision.

Also even when you look at the anime stuff that was going to be adapted to live action (AKIRA, Ghost In The Shell, Ninja Scroll, Evangelion) it's all stuff that be really easy to do in comparision to DBZ (hell AKIRA, Ghost In The Shell, and Evangelion, for the most part have the same basic Neo-Tokyo setting, same type of technology, etc)

Maybe if a good live action Street Fighter movie was made, that might be a good stepping stone to DBZ given the similarities (crazy martial arts, ki blast, odd chars, large cast, etc) but we as of yet haven't seen anything like that.
Well, generally, I wouldn't mind if they made a movie inspired by the series, rather than put the name on it.
EXACTLY!

Just do something similar rather then just trying to change or adapt so much given all the problems that come up.

And if that works out well then maybe they could do an exact DBZ movie.

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Post by Mr. Announcer » Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:03 pm

landoku wrote:
Mr. Announcer wrote:
landoku wrote: WHY! Why, do you guys always insist on saying "Well if they do make a movie they need to be ASIAN actors."
Nothing in the entire dragonball z series shows that the characters are asian! For all we know Toriyama could have made the entire saiyajin race look exactly like Americans!*lol* We dont know, so the whole "Asian actor" thing is stupid. When they make the movie they'll use well known (most likely) American actors. (I think Tom Welling would be GREAT as a young, strong Goku.)
That true, nothing in Dragonball would ever suggest that. Except that early Dragonball takes place in what could be considered their version of China, and they all, y'know, dress up in gi and such. But yeah, I totally see where you're coming from.
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Post by Sebastian (SB) » Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:04 pm

.....Nice.
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Post by Mr.Piccolo » Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:11 pm

Mr. Announcer wrote:Uhh....Should I feel bad that my sarcasm isn't really noticeable....?
Sorry, I didn't notice it at first either, Mr. A. I'm not thinking straight with the whole holiday season coming up, working on my story, looking over my shoulder for certain VAs having blackmail on me ;p. People! Do you want this?People that agree should be banned... from life. Also, as TAS said, Transformers isn't a good example for a DBZ live action movie. You know the anime with the transforming trucks and stuff? CGI. You know the anime with Piccolo? Wesley Snipes.. :?
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Post by landoku » Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:49 pm

WOW! You guys are so witty and smart! Your opinions are so....so....WITTY! Its sad that you all are so scared of a change from a cartoon/manga series to a live movie....Yes,Yes I get it the whole live street fighter thing YOU ALL GOT ME GOOD!! *notice my sarcasim too* I now understand why you all HATE the idea of a live movie...BUT It doesn't mean squat, The reason being is that THIS MOVIE IS GOING TO HAPPEN. Sorry but its the cold...hard...TRUTH! You MUST see It will because eventually the movie makers will run out of Spidermans and Hulks and Xmen, and take a very * Hopefully Quick* guess at whats next in line... (Insert all your witty and smart answers)....REAL Answer *Drum role* DragonSpheres Z By 20th Century Fox baised on Akira Toriyama's Masterpiece Dragonball Z!!!

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Post by Sebastian (SB) » Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:56 pm

I don't think anyone's denying the validation of the movie in years to come. I do believe it will eventually happen, but sometimes I think it's better not to even think/discuss until it does because well.....you end up with crap like this.
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Post by landoku » Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:33 am

I don't think anyone's denying the validation of the movie in years to come. I do believe it will eventually happen, but sometimes I think it's better not to even think/discuss until it does because well.....you end up with crap like this.
I hope your not being sarcastic again....if your not I DO agree with you.

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But if any NEW News on this subject should occur...I'll be the first to post it. :D lol

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Post by TAS » Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:35 am

Its sad that you all are so scared of a change from a cartoon/manga series to a live movie
Nobody is scared of it, rather people are being realists about it.

What shows that a DBZ movie can be done well, because you as of yet haven't listed a single good example, which shouldn't be such a big suprise considering there are no examples.
The reason being is that THIS MOVIE IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
And why is that?

Is it because...

1) Fox has had the rights for over 6 years now and hasn't done anything?

or

2) Not a single one of the live action anime adaptions has ever gone through (DBZ, AKIRA, Ninja Scroll, Ghost In The Shell, Evangelion)

...so which is it.

Also like I said earlier if they do an all new animated theatrical movie (or CGI movie) that is a retelling, then the live action movie will NOT happen.
eventually the movie makers will run out of Spidermans and Hulks and Xmen,
No they won't because there's so much on offer, and being created all the time, not to mention there's the non-stop flux of remakes.
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