The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Doctor. » Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:35 pm

Multiverse!Boo comes to Earth during the F period and absorbs the two SSGSSs, Beerus and Golden Freeza.

Can Whis vaporize him for good? His time reversal can't be used to allow his victory.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbgtFO » Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:37 pm

He makes it to Goku(yardrat), who wins by abusing his teleportation ability and teaching Goten a valuable lesson about how he can never be too comfortable, even if he has the overwhelming advantage in power.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hero » Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:46 pm

Doctor. wrote:Multiverse!Boo comes to Earth during the F period and absorbs the two SSGSSs, Beerus and Golden Freeza.

Can Whis vaporize him for good? His time reversal can't be used to allow his victory.
I really want to say the Buu wins, but from how broken Whis is portrayed as I can see him somehow still winning. I think what'll allow him to win is how he can fight without thinking, something that he faulted both Goku and Vegeta for doing.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:15 pm

Hero wrote:Here's one more since I've always to see other people's opinion on this:

SSJ Goten (Pre) Gauntlet!

1. 100% Freeza
2. SSJ Goku (Yardarat)
3. Android 18
4. Android 16
5. Semi- Perfect Cell
6. ASSJ Vegeta
7. USSJ Trunks
8. SSJ Vegeta (Cell Games)
9. Cell Junior
10. SSJ Goku (Cell Games)
11. SSJ Gohan (Cell Games)

Where do you have him losing? I have Goten beating Semi- Perfect Cell with ease but losing to ASSJ/ "Super" Vegeta.
He stops at CG FPSS Goku, who he's equal to in my opinion. He slaughters anyone before that, though.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Captain Space » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:24 pm

Hero wrote:Here's one more since I've always to see other people's opinion on this:

SSJ Goten (Pre) Gauntlet!

1. 100% Freeza
2. SSJ Goku (Yardarat)
3. Android 18
4. Android 16
5. Semi- Perfect Cell
6. ASSJ Vegeta
7. USSJ Trunks
8. SSJ Vegeta (Cell Games)
9. Cell Junior
10. SSJ Goku (Cell Games)
11. SSJ Gohan (Cell Games)

Where do you have him losing? I have Goten beating Semi- Perfect Cell with ease but losing to ASSJ/ "Super" Vegeta.
He's not too far below Buu-arc-SSJ Gohan, so he could take everyone up through Cell Junior I'd say, so...yeah, I guess I'm agreeing with the other people who say he stops at CG Coku.
Doctor. wrote:Multiverse!Boo comes to Earth during the F period and absorbs the two SSGSSs, Beerus and Golden Freeza.

Can Whis vaporize him for good? His time reversal can't be used to allow his victory.
Beerus and one SSGSS is already more power than Whis when combined. Add in Freeza, another SSGSS, and the fact that Multiverse-Buu's already on SSJ2 Vegetto's level (and a Vegetto with 20 years of training after the Buu arc at that), and Buu wins with ridiculous ease.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Doctor. » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:40 pm

You're following Toriyama's numbers of Whis being a 15 while Beerus was a 10, right?

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Captain Space » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:41 pm

Doctor. wrote:You're following Toriyama's numbers of Whis being a 15 while Beerus was a 10, right?
Yup. And SSGSS should be at least as strong as SSJG, so at least a 6, and Golden Freeza's maximum power would be a bit above whatever SSGSS is.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Tue Jul 28, 2015 4:23 pm

Hero wrote:Here's one more since I've always to see other people's opinion on this:

SSJ Goten (Pre) Gauntlet!

1. 100% Freeza
2. SSJ Goku (Yardarat)
3. Android 18
4. Android 16
5. Semi- Perfect Cell
6. ASSJ Vegeta
7. USSJ Trunks
8. SSJ Vegeta (Cell Games)
9. Cell Junior
10. SSJ Goku (Cell Games)
11. SSJ Gohan (Cell Games)

Where do you have him losing? I have Goten beating Semi- Perfect Cell with ease but losing to ASSJ/ "Super" Vegeta.
Goten hits a brick wall against SSJ Goku (Cell Games).

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by supercat » Tue Jul 28, 2015 4:30 pm

Noah wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote: - Super Vegetto still one shots Goku
- Buuhan finger flicks Goku
Aren't you ignoring the newly god achieved powers?


New matches: (equal power, unlimited stamina)

- Android 19 x SSJ Gohan (Cell Games)
- Appule x Yajirobe
- Goku (Saiyan Arc) x Babidi
- King Vegeta x Master Roshi (Max Power)
- Mirai Trunks x Dabura
- Piccolo (Fused With Kami) x Recoome
- Pure Evil Boo x Kid Goku (Choseisui)
- Saibamen x Mecha Freeza
- Seripa x Paikuhan (Weighted)
- Tenshinhan x Android 18
- Yamcha x Oozaru Tullece
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- Android 19 x SSJ Gohan (Cell Games)
-Tapping into his intricate programming, Android 19 begins displaying a pretty neat array of techniques that only fighters of decent caliber would be able to pull off. Unfortunately for Gero's loyal creation, it's only a matter of time before his technological flaws and calculation errors begin faltering in the face of a true warrior with genuine talent. Quickly seeing past the redundancy of the android's artificial battle prowess, Gohan skillfully turns him into a pile of mechanical junk.

- Appule x Yajirobe

With the swiftness of his razor sharp sword, and his brutish might, Yajirobe overwhelms the incompetent lackey of Frieza.

- King Vegeta x Master Roshi (Max Power)

After spending decades, if not centuries refining his combat skills, Roshi feels he has what it takes to teach the proud king of Saiyans a thing or two. Offended by his opponent's bold claims, King Vegeta begins throwing a barrage of ki blasts. Deeming the outburst of attacks as a mere struggle for survival, Roshi dodges each blast and engages himself in hand to hand combat with the king. After a few seconds of trading blows, the Turtle Hermit decides to conclude things with his signature Kamehameha.

- Mirai Trunks x Dabura

Dabura starts off by unleashing a myriad of different techniques that each almost succeed in killing his opponent. Knowing full well that defeating this malevolent warrior is going to require him to delve into the greatest depths of his creativity, Trunks begins mentally devising a game plan. Without wasting anymore time, he sets himself up with an opening and proceeds to incinerate Babidi's last line of defense.

- Piccolo (Fused With Kami) x Recoome

Pleased at the prospect of being paired with such an intellectually challenged opponent, Piccolo eagerly prepares himself for combat. Seconds into the fight, the observant Namekian finds the perfect opportunity to strike and puts the unsuspecting Ginyu out of his misery.

- Saibamen x Mecha Freeza

Mecha Frieza laughs maniacally as he watches the pathetic spawn writhing in pain.

- Seripa x Paikuhan (Weighted)

With the finest degree of training under his belt, Paikuhan shows Seripa why he was once the top fighter in Other World.

- Tenshinhan x Android 18

Tien yet again proves that no amount of technological prowess will ever be able to trump the dedication and authentic skill of a true warrior.

- Yamcha x Oozaru Tullece

After speedily maneuvering past the Great Ape's powerful but slow attacks, Yamcha lands a direct hit with his Spirit Ball and calls it a day.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Alex9196 » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:10 pm

Bibidi vs Babidi (hand to hand, no magic)
Raditz Oozaru vs Bardock
1.000 Saibaimen vs Kid Vegeta
Ginyu Force vs "Cooler Force" (The three henchmen from coolers revenge)
Androids 13-20 vs Regular Perfect Cell
Nail vs Recoome
Super Buu (Janemba absorbed) vs Hirudegarn)

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:18 pm

Alex9196 wrote:Bibidi vs Babidi (hand to hand, no magic)
Raditz Oozaru vs Bardock
1.000 Saibaimen vs Kid Vegeta
Ginyu Force vs "Cooler Force" (The three henchmen from coolers revenge)
Androids 13-20 vs Regular Perfect Cell
Nail vs Recoome
Super Buu (Janemba absorbed) vs Hirudegarn)
This match reminds me of Gotenks vs Gotenks from DBM. Babidi is my pick.
Bardock gets murdered in seconds.
The 1,000 army of Saibaimen win.
A tricky one. The Cooler Force his stronger but the Ginyu Force has Guldo's mental abilities and Ginyu's body change technique. I suppose the Cooler Force still win.
Cell raises his hand and all androids disappear.
Exact equals. I vote goes to Nail since he should be more skilled.
No idea.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Captain Space » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:23 pm

Alex9196 wrote:Bibidi vs Babidi (hand to hand, no magic)
Raditz Oozaru vs Bardock
1.000 Saibaimen vs Kid Vegeta
Ginyu Force vs "Cooler Force" (The three henchmen from coolers revenge)
Androids 13-20 vs Regular Perfect Cell
Nail vs Recoome
Super Buu (Janemba absorbed) vs Hirudegarn)
-It's the most embarrassing, ridiculous spectacle anyone ever saw. Eventually Bibidi falls over on Babidi and crushes him with his greater bulk.

-If we're talking Minus Bardock, probably Bardock--Raditz should still be way slower than Bardock, who can run around and cut off his tail. If we're talking TV-special Bardock, even Raditz's strength advantage isn't much, so definitely Bardock.

-The Saibamen. Think Roshi vs. the soldiers in RF, if he didn't have any allies, and if they could self-destruct when almost beaten.

-Sauzer/Salza was able to keep up for a while with post-Namek Piccolo, so probably Cooler's men. Even if body change shenanigans happen, they have two more who are presumably nearly at his level.

-Even 16 is nowhere near Cell's league, certainly not close enough for less than ten foes in that range to overwhelm him, not to mention Cell's other advantages (regeneration, intelligence, techniques). So Cell.

-Tough one...since there seemed to be a greater gap between Goku (who even if he was at 60K would've been able to one-shot Recoome) and Recoome than there was between Recoome and Vegeta (30K), I guess the main three Ginyus were probably closer to 40K than to 50K, soooo...maybe Nail, 'cause roughly equal power and regeneration? (And maybe greater skill?)

-I'd say Buu. All three of them are individually in something of the same ballpark, and I don't see Hirudegarn having anything to put Buu down for good.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:52 pm

Alex9196 wrote:Bibidi vs Babidi (hand to hand, no magic)
Raditz Oozaru vs Bardock
1.000 Saibaimen vs Kid Vegeta
Ginyu Force vs "Cooler Force" (The three henchmen from coolers revenge)
Androids 13-20 vs Regular Perfect Cell
Nail vs Recoome
Super Buu (Janemba absorbed) vs Hirudegarn)
- Babidi seem more apt in terms of magic than Bibidi. So I'm backing Bibidi.
- Bardock gets squashed like a bug
- The Saibamen overwhelm Vegeta
- Coolers Armored squadron decimate the Ginyu Force. The weakest among them (Neiz) is stronger than Captain Ginyu himself.
- Perfect Cell finger flicks all of the Androids
- Hmm... This is really close fight. I'd think that Nail's regeneration will ultimate give him the edge, though. So going with Nail.
- Super Buu, easily.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by h0kuten » Tue Jul 28, 2015 9:57 pm

Goku Ssj2 (BoG) + Vegeta Ssj2 (BoG) vs Buutenks

Goku Ssj3 (BoG) vs Goku Ssj3 Dragon Fist (Wrath of The Dragon)

Frieza 4th Form 50% (FnF) vs Vegetto Ssj3 (BoG)

Shishama (FnF) vs Majin Vegeta Ssj2

Goku Ssj4 (Wrath of The Dragon) vs Super Vegetto (Buu)

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Post by Lord Beerus » Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:10 pm

h0kuten wrote:Goku Ssj2 (BoG) + Vegeta Ssj2 (BoG) vs Buutenks

Goku Ssj3 (BoG) vs Goku Ssj3 Dragon Fist (Wrath of The Dragon)

Freeza 4th Form 50% (FnF) vs Vegetto Ssj3 (BoG)

Shishama (FnF) vs Majin Vegeta Ssj2

Goku Ssj4 (Wrath of The Dragon) vs Super Vegetto (Buu)
- Buutenks stomps both Vegeta and Goku
- Umm... I guess Goku's Dragon Fist
- Freeza wins with mild difficulty
- Shisami get decimated
- Super Vegetto.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Noah » Wed Jul 29, 2015 12:42 am

New matches: (equal power, limited stamina)

- Bardock vs Nuova Shenron
- Cell Junior x Saibamen
- Cell x Freeza
- Kid Goku (21st Tenkaichi Budokai) vs Nappa
- Krillin x SSJ Goten & SSJ Trunks
- Piccolo Daimao x Raditz
- SSSJ3 Gogeta x Beerus
- Super 17 x Super Android 13
- Tenshinhan x SSJ Vegeta
- Ultimate Gohan x Piccolo (Boo Arc)
- Yamcha x Zarbon (Post-Transformation)
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by h0kuten » Wed Jul 29, 2015 12:58 am

Cell Junior ~ due to adverse techniques.
Cell ~ due to adverse techniques.
Kurririn ~ due to experience.
Beerus ~ due to Whiss being his mentor.
Vegeta ~ due to skill and tenacity.
Piccolo ~ Piccolo LOLSTOMPROFL
Yamcha ~ due to Zarbon loosing his cool.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:18 am

Noah wrote:New matches: (equal power, limited stamina)

- Bardock vs Nuova Shenron
- Cell Junior x Saibamen
- Cell x Freeza
- Kid Goku (21st Tenkaichi Budokai) vs Nappa
- Krillin x SSJ Goten & SSJ Trunks
- Piccolo Daimao x Raditz
- SSSJ3 Gogeta x Beerus
- Super 17 x Super Android 13
- Tenshinhan x SSJ Vegeta
- Ultimate Gohan x Piccolo (Boo Arc)
- Yamcha x Zarbon (Post-Transformation)
-Nuova as he and Goku were pretty on par and seem to match each other in skill. Goku's more skilled than Bardock so Nuova wins.
-Cell Jr is far more skilled than a Saibamen.
-Cell is far more skilled than Freeza who just magically has potential cause fuck it. At equal power Cell is far more of a competent fighter.
-I'll give it to Nappa. I think he's probably been through more invasions which should harden him as a warrior.
-I give it to Goten and Trunks as they may be less skilled, but two people of equal strength I think can overpower Krillin. One on One Krillin would have this no problem.
-I'll give Radtiz a bone and say he's more skilled and would take it from probably experience invading a bunch of worlds.
-With limited stamina Gogeta is doomed. He'd burn out much faster than Beerus ever would. Also Beerus should have been trained by Whis, which probably comes with perks.
-17 can absorb all of 13's ki attacks and is probably the more advanced model since he's more recent.
-Vegeta probably is more skilled of the two and would still win, but Vegeta wouldn't win easy.
-Piccolo is more skilled and would more than likely beat the guy who doesn't innovate skills of his own.
-Yamcha probably has more skill as Zarbon seems to be the kind of guy who relies on being more powerful than skilled against opponents.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by supercat » Wed Jul 29, 2015 3:45 am

In Brightest Day wrote:A few more fights here:

- Aka vs. Android #18.
- Android #13, #14 & #15 vs. King Cold, Cooler and Freeza.
- General Rild vs. Uub (beginning of GT) and Ledgic.
- Son Goku (Namek) vs. Lord Chilled.
- Tenshinhan (Trunks arc) vs. Yamcha (Android arc).
- Aka vs. Android #18

Aka shows Android 18 that wielding a greater power than Frieza is an irrelevant factor in the face of a superior opponent like himself.

- Android #13, #14 & #15 vs. King Cold, Cooler and Freeza

The Cold family begins laughing uncontrollably at the bold threats made by the trio of metallic warriors. No longer seeing the reason to tolerate their existence, Frieza fires a deadly wave of ki in their direction. As the smoke clears the tyrant cringes in horror as he sees all three of his opponents standing around unscathed. Disgusted by his younger brother's incompetence, Cooler decides to personally step in. Immediately after powering up to his Final Form, he launches a Supernova at his seemingly indestructible foes. Sensing the sheer power behind the attack, each android vanishes before the attack has a chance to hit. Unfortunately for Android 14, because Cooler was watching his every movement, he gets impaled with a Death Beam immediately upon reappearing. Without wasting another second, Cooler follows up on his Death Beam by incinerating the helpless android with a powerful blast.

Awe-struck but jealous of his brother's power, Frieza decides to go for broke and tap into 100% of his full power. With his eyes set on Android 15, he begins charging at him full force. The two fighters then trade blows for a bit until Android 15 decides to put the tyrant out of his misery. Swiftly leveraging his tiny size to maneuver his way into an opening, he forcefully propels his entire body into Frieza's abdomen, before blasting him to death.

Knowing that he has no chance of winning whatsoever, Cold presents his opponents with the opportunity to rule alongside him. Uninterested in the offer, Android 13 obliterates him.

- General Rild vs. Uub (beginning of GT) and Ledgic.

Ledgic gets one-shotted, so it would basically boil down to Uub and Rild. With his second and final forms readily accessible, the machine mutant destroys the former Majin with the utmost ease. In his base form, he wins with a decent amount of difficulty.

- Son Goku (Namek) vs. Chilled.

Goku makes quick work of Chilled.

Tenshinhan (Trunks arc) vs. Yamcha (Android arc)

Thinking that there's not a single version of Yamcha that could defeat him, Tien confidently jumps into combat. To his surprise, he finds that he was quite wrong. Needless to say, each attack is countered, the Shin Kikoho misses and leaves him half dead, and Yamcha's Spirit Ball is the last thing he sees before knocking out.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Bullza » Wed Jul 29, 2015 5:32 am

So where do we place Demigra and Mira's power compared to the others?

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