The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

[Lord Beerus]

Regardless if Gohan loved fighting or not, he would always, and has; find a way to lose.

So Gohan defeating Cell never happened?

[h0kuten]

Regardless if Gohan loved fighting or not, he would always, and has; find a way to lose.

So Gohan defeating Cell never happened?

Wouldn't of if Goku didn't wipe his ass once again.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Based on the Cell Games, the difference in potential between Gohan & Goku, as Full Powered Mastered Super Saiyans, is only in the 25%-50% range.

How is the difference in potential 25-50%? That's only the difference in their battle power.

[h0kuten]

Based on the Cell Games, the difference in potential between Gohan & Goku, as Full Powered Mastered Super Saiyans, is only in the 25%-50% range.

How is the difference in potential 25-50%? That's only the difference in their battle power.

Probably because they capitalized on Super Saiyan at that specific point and couldn't really get much stronger. Ssj2 is simply a more powered up version of Super Saiyan so in theory, the gap between Goku & Gohan during the Cell Games is the gap in their potential. Meaning Goku would probably wind up as strong as Super Buu if he underwent Old Kai's ritual.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Probably because they capitalized on Super Saiyan at that specific point and couldn't really get much stronger.

Where is that said?

[h0kuten]

Probably because they capitalized on Super Saiyan at that specific point and couldn't really get much stronger.

Where is that said?

It's implied. Mastered Super Saiyan.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

It's implied. Mastered Super Saiyan.

That doesn't prove anything.

[h0kuten]

It's implied. Mastered Super Saiyan.

That doesn't prove anything.

Neither Gohan or Goku had any room to toughen up more and tells Vegeta that he still did, implying the former didn't.

During the events of the Cell Games, Gohan's dormant power is Ssj2, it's stated everywhere. However we now know that Ssj2 is just a powered up version of Super Saiyan. So the difference in potential should only be how tough they were during the events of the Cell Games, because Goku showed he could forcibly power up his own Ssj2 state as well.

[fadeddreams5]

If we count filler, Gohan's beaten Garlic Jr twice, Bojack, Frieza, and had a major hand in defeating Broly.

In comparison, I think Vegeta's only ever beaten henchmen. lol.

[miguelnuva1]

How would the series change if Goku became a SSJ2 on Namek and Gohan became a SSJ. How does this change the series going forward? Question just popped into my mind due to a discussion with the family.

[h0kuten]

When does Goku become a Ssj2 and when does Gohan become a Ssj?

[Berserker1921]

How would the series change if Goku became a SSJ2 on Namek and Gohan became a SSJ. How does this change the series going forward? Question just popped into my mind due to a discussion with the family.

If Goku got ssj2 in the namek saga. Frieza is dead and buried. Gohan as a ssj would prob have reached ssj 2 by the android saga. Androids either die or are forced to become good. Cell gets killed by Gohan or Goku. And during the seven years that lead up to the Buu saga. I could imagine maybe Goku, Gohan, and maybe Vegeta to become ssj3. However that is a big maybe. Since Goku only achieved that when he was dead. Because in other world he had less restrictions and could train to his hearts delight and show little fatigue.

Buu would have been killed by Gohan or Vegeta. No Buu saga. Maybe the supreme Kai's would still want Gohan to train under him. Gohan would break the sword and achieve mystic form. They would all be op until beerus would arrive and idk if Gohan would get God form or Goku. Because I think Gohan would prob have had married videl by then and started slacking.

[Berserker1921]

What if Whis decided to train Goku and Vegeta as children after talking to the oracle fish claiming of their potential. So while beerus slept, Whis trained them in hopes of increasing their potential? Before Beerus awoke; how powerful would they become?

[fadeddreams5]

What if Gohan became a SSJ when Frieza pierced Piccolo through the chest (before he killed Krillin)?

Gohan: "Dad, Krillin, listen very carefully. You must leave this planet now and take Piccolo with you. Got it?"

Goku & Krillin: O_O

[Berserker1921]

What if Gohan became a SSJ when Freeza pierced Piccolo through the chest (before he killed Krillin)?

Gohan: "Dad, Krillin, listen very carefully. You must leave this planet now and take Piccolo with you. Got it?"

Goku & Krillin: O_O

Lol. That be funny. However wouldn't Gohan be too weak to finish him off?

[fadeddreams5]

What if Whis decided to train Goku and Vegeta as children after talking to the oracle fish claiming of their potential. So while beerus slept, Whis trained them in hopes of increasing their potential? Before Beerus awoke; how powerful would they become?

They'd become strong, but probably not by that much in comparison to how they actually trained through the course of the series, honestly. Whis is immensely powerful, but he is no miracle worker either. Goku and Vegeta only benefit from his training because of their god powers.

Alternatively, they may have become SSJs at an early age. Vegeta, evil as he was would immediately leave them to control the universe. Whis would be indifferent, but Goku would try to stop him.

[Doctor.]

Vegeta would probably become much stronger than he did in the Boo arc. Possibly as strong as SS3 Gotenks or more. Definitely not as strong as Ultimate Gohan though.

Goku would be a lot weaker, especially if Whis kidnapped him before he bumped his head. The reason behind this is because Goku's potential has always been lower than Vegeta's and he gets access to special training all the time, and if he didn't bump his head he wouldn't have such a drive to train and surpass his limits. Though one may argue that Whis' training is even more special than all the rest he underwent, so he'd become stronger than he did in the Boo arc I guess, but still a lot weaker than Vegeta.

[h0kuten]

Whiss would bring them to where they are now; leaving Gohan & Gotenks in the dust.

As for the thread, what if Oob suddenly showed up but had control of his power and got paired up with Goku? While Vegeta Pre-Majin had to fight a Teen Gohan who remained as powerful as he was during the Cell Games? This is not the EOZ tournament, it's the one just prior to the Buu Arc.

[Berserker1921]

Whiss would bring them to where they are now; leaving Gohan & Gotenks in the dust.

As for the thread, what if Oob suddenly showed up but had control of his power and got paired up with Goku? While Vegeta Pre-Majin had to fight a Teen Gohan who remained as powerful as he was during the Cell Games? This is not the EOZ tournament, it's the one just prior to the Buu Arc.

Let's say their is aspects of time travel. A xenoverse theory. Uub would be as strong or near ssj3 Goku. He would probably be the hero of this story. The Kai's would choose him over Gohan and have his potential unlocked. Making him possibly near ssjgod Goku or vegito ssj 3.

[Berserker1921]

What if Vegeta and Goku stayed fused at Vegito. During battle of gods; how long do you think vegito would have lasted against Beerus? And let's say they turn him into a god. Would he have been stronger then beerus?